Curry Traded To New York

[baltimorer]

www.nba.com/bulls

Details not yet clear.

 

[playstation]

say what you will, but at this point larry brown has some talent to work with:

steph, nate robinson, jcrawford, tim thomas, ariza, jerome james, david lee, sweetney, channing frye and now curry? interesting...i mean, assuming curry doesn't die, and i don't mean that as a joke.

 

[elindholm]

Tim Thomas (for sure) and Sweetney (almost certainly) are headed to Chicago as part of the trade. I agree that the Knicks have some talent now, but it's not quite the deep roster it appears.

 

[JerkFace]

Bulls deal Curry after DNA test refusal
Associated Press

DEERFIELD, Ill. -- The Bulls dealt center Eddy Curry to the New York Knicks on Monday, ending a contentious negotiation in which Chicago insisted the restricted free agent take a DNA test over a heart problem.

Chicago also sent veteran center Antonio Davis to the Knicks, who traded away forwards Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. Several draft choices also changed hands in the deal, according to an executive in the Eastern Conference who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The trade was expected to be finalized Tuesday.

In making the announcement, an obviously frustrated Bulls general manager John Paxson did not specify what Chicago got in return and he did not field questions.

"We will have an announcement tomorrow morning," Bulls public relations director Sebrina Brewster said Monday night. "All we can say right now is we traded Eddy to the Knicks."

Knicks spokesman Jonathan Supranowitz said the team declined comment on Paxson's announcement.

The Bulls had insisted that Curry take a DNA test to determine whether he's susceptible to a potentially fatal heart problem. Curry, who missed the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs after experiencing an irregular heartbeat, balked, saying it violated his privacy.

"I would never put a player on the floor in a Chicago Bulls uniform if I didn't do everything in my power to find out all the information that was available," Paxson said. "You can debate genetic testing 'til you're blue in the face. But from what I know, from what I've learned over the last six months, that test could have helped us determine the best course of action."

Curry, drafted right out of high school, averaged a career-high 16.1 points in his fourth NBA season.

The standoff stemmed from a benign arrhythmia that caused Curry to miss the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs.

Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test.

Paxson has said he understands the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls do not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died.

Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.

"So he would have an above-average lifestyle that would put him in a position that most other people aren't in," Paxson said. "Our intention through that whole process was to show him that we did care about him and that we were concerned about his well-being."

Curry's agent Leon Rose did not return calls seeking comment Monday.

Paxson said he resented insinuations that the Bulls were on a sort of witch hunt, trying to find information on Curry.

The general manager started by asking reporters to "let me ramble a minute." After a long pause, he said, "This has been about as uncomfortable and unusual a situation I could ever imagine. We've attempted from Day 1 to do the right thing, and I'm absolutely confident that we have in every way we went about it. And in a lot of ways we've met resistance in trying to gather all the information we feel we need."

About three minutes later, Paxson said, "From a basketball standpoint, I understand what I'm doing. But I have an obligation to this organization and the people I work for to do the right thing. And I did the right thing. That's all I've got to say."

Then, he walked away from the table.

That Curry and the Bulls parted was not shocking, given the tone of the negotiations.

Curry played a major role as the Bulls won 47 games and reached the playoffs for the first time since 1998 -- when Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen led them to their sixth NBA title.

"It's tough," said power forward Tyson Chandler, who re-signed with the Bulls for six years during the offseason. "I'm sad to see him go."

 

[slinslin]

400.000$ a year so he can have an above average lifestyle.

 

[elindholm]

400.000$ a year so he can have an above average lifestyle.

Fifty years from now, who knows what that will get you. Even so, I agree that it was a pretty darned generous offer given Curry's circumstances.

 

[Southpaw]

Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.

The stupidity of an agent and a player is mind boggling. If this duo is in denial, shame on them. Ask Hank Gaithers and Reggie Lewis' family. Wouldn't one think the player would want the test? If the Bulls get beat up on this one, or Eddie remains healthy, which he is not now, that would be extremely unfair. What does this say about Isiah Thomas and the Knicks?

 

[Joe Mama]

The New York Knicks have a lot of talent, but it's mostly the wrong kind. They now have a center who can't defend his shadow and won't rebound. Their point guard dominates the ball for 20 of the 24 seconds on the shot clock (he would probably be the least of my concerns). Their off guards are a quantity shooters with relatively low shooting percentages.

I guess they acquired some decent depth in the frontcourt with Antonio Davis. He may be a nice trade commodity at some point.

I still like Marbury. I think he dribbles around too much, but I still admire the way he handled himself off the court here in Phoenix. I would like to see him succeed somewhere... just not in New York with Isaiah Thomas and Larry Brown.

Joe Mama

 

[George O'Brien]

The Larry Brown effect has been felt in the Knicks getting Antonio Davis - definitely an LB type guy.

The Bulls prepared for losing Curry by getting Darius Songaila (he can score by doesn't rebound ), but I'm not sure the Bulls will be as strong this season.

 

[Southpaw]

The Larry Brown effect has been felt in the Knicks getting Antonio Davis - definitely an LB type guy.

The Bulls prepared for losing Curry by getting Darius Songaila (he can score by doesn't rebound ), but I'm not sure the Bulls will be as strong this season.

Bulls needed offense. Songaila can do that. Kukoc type player. Curry gave them nothing. Davis is old, but Brown is a 2 year guy.

 

[Amare32]

Davis will be waived and will return to the Bulls. It was part of the deal.

 

[Amare32]

Bulls needed offense. Songaila can do that. Kukoc type player. Curry gave them nothing. Davis is old, but Brown is a 2 year guy.

Sorry I don't agree. Curry gave them alot. He was their leading scorer and by best their best post scorer. He was a weak rebounder but alot of their success was due to Curry's go to scoring inside.

 

[Joe Mama]

Davis will be waived and will return to the Bulls. It was part of the deal.

I thought there was a rule in the new CBA specifically designed to prevent that from happening. I'm almost sure of it.

Joe Mama

 

[Neo]

The stupidity of an agent and a player is mind boggling. If this duo is in denial, shame on them. Ask Hank Gaithers and Reggie Lewis' family. Wouldn't one think the player would want the test? If the Bulls get beat up on this one, or Eddie remains healthy, which he is not now, that would be extremely unfair. What does this say about Isiah Thomas and the Knicks?

I'd be shocked if he actually did not get tested. More likely, he was just refusing to be tested by a doctor/lab that would waive doctor/patient confidentiality and reveal the results of the test to the Bulls. This type of thing happens all the time in the court system. Anytime you here about a suspect consenting to a polygraph or some other testing, if they have an attorney with half a brain, they have already gone through the test with a private polygrapher and passed it.

That is why I am surprised the Knicks would sign him. Anyone who is that stubborn about not getting a test performed probably knows something about what the result of that test will be.

 

[sunsfn]

Davis will be waived and will return to the Bulls. It was part of the deal.

This was bought up when the Celtics traded payton last year. He was waived and the Celtics signed him again.
I thought I read where this could not happen anymore?

New rule, part of the new CBA?

 

[zett]

I'm confused How do you flunk a DNA test? and where does it say he is refusing to take a polygraph? (lie detector) They are not the same thing!

 

[fordronken]

I thought there was a rule in the new CBA specifically designed to prevent that from happening. I'm almost sure of it.

Joe Mama

Yeah, me too. I'm confused.

 

[Southpaw]

I'd be shocked if he actually did not get tested. More likely, he was just refusing to be tested by a doctor/lab that would waive doctor/patient confidentiality and reveal the results of the test to the Bulls. This type of thing happens all the time in the court system. Anytime you here about a suspect consenting to a polygraph or some other testing, if they have an attorney with half a brain, they have already gone through the test with a private polygrapher and passed it.

That is why I am surprised the Knicks would sign him. Anyone who is that stubborn about not getting a test performed probably knows something about what the result of that test will be.

This makes sense.

The other factor not mentioned is Jerry Reinsdorf, Bulls owner. He is the Wild Card along with Isiah.

 

[elindholm]

I read on a Chicago message board last night that Curry's contract is only $35 million over five years. That makes sense given the salaries of the other players involved (Jermaine Jackson is a re-signed throw-in just to bump Curry's salary up a bit more), and assuming it's correct, the Knicks aren't exposing themselves to quite as much financial risk as we would have thought.

 

[Amare32]

actually the contract is a 6 year, 60 million deal

 

[nathan]

In case you were wondering what the present day value of that payment schedule is:
X=400,000+400,000/(1+r)+...+400,000/(1+r)^49
X/(1+r)=400,000/(1+r)+...+400,000/(1+r)^50
(1-1/(1+r))X=400,000-400,000/(1+r)^50
X=400,000*(1-1/(1+r)^50)/(1-1/(1+r))

For r=.05, X=$7,667,488.69

 

[elindholm]

For r=.05, X=$7,667,488.69

LOL, thanks.

 

[elindholm]

actually the contract is a 6 year, 60 million deal

Not possible. Five years is the maximum in any case, and he can't get close to $10 million starting salary unless reports of the players involved are incorrect.

 

[hcsilla]

Based on my calculations the max. starting salary what Curry can get after this sign-and-trade is 7.2 mil.

If he indeed got that, his new contract is about 43 mil./5 year.

 

[Neo]

I'm confused How do you flunk a DNA test? and where does it say he is refusing to take a polygraph? (lie detector) They are not the same thing!

A thousand pardons. My inability to clearly communicate and/or interact with human beings has once again reared its ugly head. I will try to explain.

The results of the DNA test are predetermined. His DNA will either reveal a defect or it will not reveal a defect. His DNA is the same as it has been since minutes after Dad said to his Mom "Hey baby, wanna see my pet earthworm?"

Since Curry would have the opportunity to find out what his DNA would reveal without having to pass that revelation on to the Bulls, he would be a fool not to take the test with a private doctor/lab first. If his DNA shows what he hoped, then he has no reason to not take the test. If his DNA shows what the Bulls fear, then he has a huge incentive not to take the test.

The polygraph example was merely an example which I occasionally encounter . I know that a polygraph is not a DNA test. It is, however, another example of a situation where one would be foolish not to get a sample test before taking a test that will be revealed to a potentially adverse party. Like a DNA test, you may have an idea of how a polygraph will turn out, but the results often surprise the subject of the test. That is because polygraphs are not very reliable.