Dampier for stability at the 5?

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

i say sign him. more size, more size, more size.

and though his hands stink, and he's not an offensive juggernaut. nash can get him easy dunks.

 

[Chaplin]

i say sign him. more size, more size, more size.

and though his hands stink, and he's not an offensive juggernaut. nash can get him easy dunks.

That probably means no Siler, no Jones, no Atkins, no Dowdell. Those last 2 spots would be Dampier and Janning.

Personally, I like Jones more than Dampier, but Damp can sure take up space.

 

[Mainstreet]

It wouldn't kill the Suns to carry 15 players. The Suns could cut Dowdell; Siler or Jones (or both); and maybe even move Clark from the 17 man roster and sign Dampier. Did the Suns pick up the option on Clark? This would not be good.

I think Atkins and Janning can help the Suns. The Suns would have at least two legitimate centers in Lopez and Dampier.

 

[Mainstreet]

Erick Dampier visits the Suns today. Message to Suns. Sign him.

See article from Paul Coro dated 10-17-10.

Dampier, 35, is a 6-foot-11, 265-pound center who could be of help for a Suns roster lacking size, rebounding and interior defenders. He is considering Phoenix, Toronto, Houston and Chicago, according to a league source.

Dampier is a 14-year veteran who was released by Charlotte last month because he had a $13 million non-guaranteed salary. The Suns would likely be offering their biennial exception, worth a salary of about $2 million.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...20101007phoenix-suns-erick-dampier-visit.html

 

[AfroSuns]

I don't know what worries me most;
That we get blown by 50+ by Raptors or signing Dampier is our only answer. ugh!!
Haven't dampier been dealing with leg injuries for a while? He may not have to run as fast but he will still have to sprint a little more than he is accustomed to, how much time is he going to spend on the bench due to injury after running a few times in the Suns systems.

 

[Suns_fan69]

That probably means no Siler, no Jones, no Atkins, no Dowdell. Those last 2 spots would be Dampier and Janning.

Personally, I like Jones more than Dampier, but Damp can sure take up space.

I like Jones and had hopes for him cracking the roster but the fact that he barely got time in a pre-season game in which 3 bigs fouled out (and remember that neither Frye nor Warrick played) is pretty telling. I don't think the Suns ever really intend on playing him in meaningful situations. Dampier at the very least will get some of those minutes.

 

[elindholm]

Dampier's desire has always been questionable, and he'd have absolutely nothing to play for on the Suns. Signing him would be a waste of money.

 

[joshstmarie]

Dampier's desire has always been questionable, and he'd have absolutely nothing to play for on the Suns. Signing him would be a waste of money.

What does that even mean?

Dude is a rebounding and block machine and we have no size, explain to me again why this wouldnt be an absolutley amazing signing?

 

[carey]

What does that even mean?

Dude is a rebounding and block machine and we have no size, explain to me again why this wouldnt be an absolutley amazing signing?

The theory is Damp only plays well in contract years, and prefers a starters role. Not sure why he'd come here for what we can offer him, money and playing time probably doesn't suit him.

 

[AfroSuns]

What does that even mean?

Dude is a rebounding and block machine and we have no size, explain to me again why this wouldnt be an absolutley amazing signing?

Amazing.... Amazing????

 

[Chaplin]

I like Jones and had hopes for him cracking the roster but the fact that he barely got time in a pre-season game in which 3 bigs fouled out (and remember that neither Frye nor Warrick played) is pretty telling. I don't think the Suns ever really intend on playing him in meaningful situations. Dampier at the very least will get some of those minutes.

Siler didn't play at all in the first game, so I wouldn't take Jones being held out very seriously. And Frye isn't with the team. This info has been out there.

 

[elindholm]

What does that even mean?

What difference does it make to Dampier whether his team wins 44 games or 48? None. He's not like Grant Hill, who plays just for the love of the game. The only reason for him to play at all is to try to hitch an easy ride on a contender, which the Suns aren't.

Dude is a rebounding and block machine and we have no size, explain to me again why this wouldnt be an absolutley amazing signing?

Because Dampier doesn't care. He never has. Give him $2 million with nothing to answer to besides his conscience, and you'll get nothing out of him.

 

[Suns_fan69]

Siler didn't play at all in the first game, so I wouldn't take Jones being held out very seriously. And Frye isn't with the team. This info has been out there.

Right, I knew that Frye wasn't with the team, just saying that if Jones can barely crack time with 2 fairly big minute bigs out and 3 others fouled out, it's looking unlikely he'll ever crack it with this team. Which is too bad because I think (on paper anyways) he'd be a better fit than Dampier.

 

[Mainstreet]

The fact that the Suns are even pursuing Dampier acknowledges the Suns have serious size problems upfront that have not yet been addressed by current personnel moves (players that are now on their roster). The Suns would normally not consider a player like Dampier because of their style of play. IMO, the Suns are waving a red flag. In past seasons the Suns would just shift to a higher gear.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The fact that the Suns are even pursuing Dampier acknowledges the Suns have serious size problems upfront that have not yet been addressed by current personnel moves (players that are now on their roster). The Suns would normally not consider a player like Dampier because of their style of play. IMO, the Suns are waving a red flag. In past seasons the Suns would just shift to a higher gear.

You know what this team needs? Another wing player. Sarver has been an excellent GM.

 

[elindholm]

The Suns would normally not consider a player like Dampier because of their style of play. IMO, the Suns are waving a red flag.

I think it's because they suspect Turkoglu is going to be a disaster at PF, and the first two exhibition games have done nothing to dispel that fear. The Suns' center situation isn't much worse than usual -- an erratic starter, an undersized, soft backup, and maybe a young guy who could sort of fill in if needed. But PF is looking like a disaster. If for some reason Dampier signs with the Suns and ends up getting regular minutes, it will push Frye to PF for some of the time, with a trickle-down effect through the rest of the rotation.

That said, I find it very difficult to believe that the Suns are seriously interested in Dampier. This is probably one of those "due diligence" cases, and then when he goes somewhere else, they can claim that they tried.

 

[Mulli]

If Dampier starts at center for the Suns, it will be analogous to DA starting for the Cards.

Sort of.

 

[joshstmarie]

He cares enough to put up 6/7/1.5 in 20mpg thats enough for me.

 

[Mainstreet]

If Dampier starts at center for the Suns, it will be analogous to DA starting for the Cards.

Sort of.

Dampier starting for the Suns is more similar to Shaq starting for the Suns. At least Dampier does not have to play a PG role whereas DA was playing a QB role with the Cardinals. PGs and QBs are more similar respectively in basketball and football.

Sort of.

 

[Mulli]

Dampier starting for the Suns is more similar to Shaq starting for the Suns. At least Dampier does not have to play a PG role whereas DA was playing a QB role with the Cardinals. PGs and QBs are more similar respectively in basketball and football.

Sort of.

Good point. Sort of.

 

[AzStevenCal]

You know what this team needs? Another wing player. Sarver has been an excellent GM.

Sarcasm notwithstanding, you're right - we do need another big guy. Hopefully, whoever we bring in will also be a basketball player which pretty much leaves Dampier out of the equation. Think back to all those times we played Dallas. More often than not, the Suns would send his butt to the bench. And that included the times he was motivated to give full effort.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

What difference does it make to Dampier whether his team wins 44 games or 48? None. He's not like Grant Hill, who plays just for the love of the game. The only reason for him to play at all is to try to hitch an easy ride on a contender, which the Suns aren't.

I'm not saying I disagree with your core point, but that is a weak reason because the other teams that are courting him are either on par with the Suns or a lot worse.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm not saying I disagree with your core point, but that is a weak reason because the other teams that are courting him are either on par with the Suns or a lot worse.

I think that says something about the guy's value, don't you? He's fairly talented and still can occupy the middle while putting up decent numbers. If those numbers were indicative of his value I think he'd have some contenders vying for his services.

Steve

 

[Superbone]

That said, I find it very difficult to believe that the Suns are seriously interested in Dampier. This is probably one of those "due diligence" cases, and then when he goes somewhere else, they can claim that they tried.

Babby was quoted as saying "due diligence" as a matter of fact.

Found it:

"We're going to meet with him," Babby said. "We've got to do our due diligence."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...x-suns-erick-dampier-visit.html#ixzz11inv6W7j​

 

[elindholm]

I'm not saying I disagree with your core point, but that is a weak reason because the other teams that are courting him are either on par with the Suns or a lot worse.

Right. Dampier is just going through the motions. He wanted to be in Miami but they turned him down. His career as a relevant NBA player is over. I don't mean that Dampier wouldn't, at this point, want to sign with the Suns -- only that he'll be useless if he does.

Babby was quoted as saying "due diligence" as a matter of fact.

Heh, I didn't know that, but it was a good guess.