Darnell out for 2014 with ACL injury

[kerouac9]

It isn't. If Tyrann, Alameda and Abraham can get up to full speed quickly and the rest of the team stays fairly healthy, this defense could finish the season in the middle of the pack. And if our left guard starts to show us why we drafted him in the first place, our offense has a chance to be special enough to carry an average defense. That's more "ifs" than I'd like but they're all pretty reasonable "ifs".

Steve

Here's the problem--Carson Palmer even at his best is going to turn the ball over too often to create a "special" offense. The last four years, Palmer has averaged about 3:2 TDs to Interceptions. It would take Palmer being a fundamentally different kind of quarterback to bring that into the 2:1 ratio that would allow the defense to make the plays that close out games.

I don't know if this D is going to be good enough to get a stop 80% of the time the offense turns the ball over on our own 40.

 

[Buckybird]

You can have the best secondary in the world but if you can't get to a QB they will eventually pick you apart.

I was being sarcastic trust me

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't know if this D is going to be good enough to get a stop 80% of the time the offense turns the ball over on our own 40.

that's going to be the biggest problem, IMO. This D was GREAT in limiting the damage from Palmer's turnovers last year.

I just think we're gonna be in shootouts this year (outside of the division). I think Seattle mauls us with what we've lost on D, but San Fran's had some heavy losses on D as well through injuries/suspensions, so i'm hoping we can be competitive there if all things fall into place for us on O and the D gets a couple surprises.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Here's the problem--Carson Palmer even at his best is going to turn the ball over too often to create a "special" offense. The last four years, Palmer has averaged about 3:2 TDs to Interceptions. It would take Palmer being a fundamentally different kind of quarterback to bring that into the 2:1 ratio that would allow the defense to make the plays that close out games.

I don't know if this D is going to be good enough to get a stop 80% of the time the offense turns the ball over on our own 40.

I don't think it will be. But there is reason to believe that Palmer will play at least as well this season as he did the second half of last year. In addition to having a second full year in the same offense, he's also surrounded by more weapons than he's had most of his career. If we fail I don't think it will be just because Palmer failed. It will be because we didn't give him the O Line support and the run game he'll need to succeed.

Steve

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't think it will be. But there is reason to believe that Palmer will play at least as well this season as he did the second half of last year. In addition to having a second full year in the same offense, he's also surrounded by more weapons than he's had most of his career. If we fail I don't think it will be just because Palmer failed. It will be because we didn't give him the O Line support and the run game he'll need to succeed.

Steve

That might be our one saving grace. With all the weapons around him we don't need Palmer to do it all or feel like he has too. I also am with you in thinking if our offense falters it will be because we are one dimensional and can't run the ball.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Arians wants Dockett on the Sideline for game day:

“I plan on having him on the sidelines all year long because of his spirit and leadership,” Arians said. “It’s something we need and don’t want to lose."

“Injuries, they happen. It’s terrible for him, a great opportunity for somebody else. Frostee (Rucker) will step into that role, the young guys will step up and we’ll keep moving on like we always do. One injury is not going to change who we are and what we do.”

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/08/20/arians-wants-dockett-on-sideline-for-games/

 

[kerouac9]

that's going to be the biggest problem, IMO. This D was GREAT in limiting the damage from Palmer's turnovers last year.

I just think we're gonna be in shootouts this year (outside of the division). I think Seattle mauls us with what we've lost on D, but San Fran's had some heavy losses on D as well through injuries/suspensions, so i'm hoping we can be competitive there if all things fall into place for us on O and the D gets a couple surprises.

The thing with shootouts is that you need to maintain and maximize your possessions to make them happen and work. Otherwise, you end up losing 41-28 in a game you score 14 points in the fourth quarter while your opponent is running the ball over and over.

People forget that when Palmer was at his absolute peak before his knee injury, he still didn't reach a 2:1 TD to interception ratio (86 TDs to 15 INTs between 2005-2007). Even during his much-vaunted second half of 2013, he still had a 7:4 TD to interception ratio, and without a great D to create stops, that turns into a lot of 24-17 losses.

 

[daves]

Here's the problem--Carson Palmer even at his best is going to turn the ball over too often to create a "special" offense. The last four years, Palmer has averaged about 3:2 TDs to Interceptions. It would take Palmer being a fundamentally different kind of quarterback to bring that into the 2:1 ratio that would allow the defense to make the plays that close out games.

Cause for mild optimism: In the first 7 games of 2013, Palmer had 8 TDs and 13 INTs. In the last 9 games it was 16 TDs vs. 9 INTS (almost 2:1) with more TDs than INTs in every game except the win in Seattle.

Obviously 9 games don't entirely outweigh a whole career, but we can hope that the last half+ of the season reflects how Palmer will play going forward now that he and the receivers are familiar with the offense and on the same page - and perhaps with upgraded protection and receiving corps.

We can hope....

...dbs

Edit: oops, just saw that K9 already posted much the same info (with a less optimistic spin ). And i think K9 meant 86:45 in Palmer's peak years. Close enough to the "magical" 2:1 ratio for me!

 

[BigRedRage]

Arians wants Dockett on the Sideline for game day:



http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/08/20/arians-wants-dockett-on-sideline-for-games/

I was hoping they would do this. I wonder if they will take him to away games as well?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The silver lining is that the toughest part of the schedule, imo, is at the end of the season. By time they hit the last 6 weeks, which includes 4 division games, Kareem Martin will have some seasoning to him and may be just as good, or possiby play at a higher level, than a 34 year old DD. Minter should also be settled in.

In my mind, there are alot more prominent players on the Cards that would be tougher to replace.

I think the defense will still be a top 10 defense. Their secondary is amongst the best, if not the best. Foote and Minter should be every bit as good in the run game as KD and DW. It's the passing game where those two will be missed the most.

The unknowns are Abraham and generating another pass rush on the opposite side. Maybe Okafor raises his game, we really don't know what we have in him yet.

 

[Shaggy]

Arians wants Dockett on the Sideline for game day:



http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/08/20/arians-wants-dockett-on-sideline-for-games/

There is no rule against him being on the sidelines every game? He could motivating the team and be the guy he always has been but from the sidelines

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Benardrick McKinney was moved to ILB by Miss St. Probably not going top 5, but is an athletic freak.

If I am the Cards, I might draft 4 LBs next year. 2 ILBs and 2 OLBs. At least one of each should hit.

Yeah i was thinking the same thing a few days ago. Denzel Perryman is an

inside linebacker and wers number 52 for miami. I dont know if he is a first round

talent. Shawn Oakman the Baylor 3-4 end has the length and size Keim likes

and could also be a player to watch....

 

[Chopper0080]

Yeah i was thinking the same thing a few days ago. Denzel Perryman is an

inside linebacker and wers number 52 for miami. I dont know if he is a first round

talent. Shawn Oakman the Baylor 3-4 end has the length and size Keim likes

and could also be a player to watch....

I like Perryman but I have to see him seperate from a Minter-like player before I want to add him.