Daryl Washington suspended for first four games

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What a *******! You only get one chance to make a good first impression. I expect to new coaching staff to put him on the block when all said & done. Too bad to waste such talent.

LMAO

You people are crazy. Daryl Washington will be in the ring of honor one day. Man how quickly people flip on players? What a joke this thread is making me angry with all the ignorance and tossing aside a core player for a end result harmless mistake.

You made a mistake Daryl. Don't let it happen again. No go back to bashing heads.

Lmao on the block. Some people are straight brain dead.
 

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Basically I'm only upset he was dumb enough to get caught and hurt the team. I could care less that's he has/does smoke pot. Like at all.
 

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LMAO

You people are crazy. Daryl Washington will be in the ring of honor one day. Man how quickly people flip on players? What a joke this thread is making me angry with all the ignorance and tossing aside a core player for a end result harmless mistake.

You made a mistake Daryl. Don't let it happen again. No go back to bashing heads.

Lmao on the block. Some people are straight brain dead.

Sure, but that doesn't mean he hasn't majorly screwed up by placing himself in front of the team. He's set to miss 1/4 of the season. A very important season. We just managed to acquire a real quarterback, so the season was starting to look up...until we lost one of our defensive stars to greed and stupidity. He made mistakes plural, not A mistake. You should say 'don't let it happen a 4th, 5th, or 6th time.'

Basically I'm only upset he was dumb enough to get caught and hurt the team. I could care less that's he has/does smoke pot. Like at all.

I don't care about life choices like that, except as they impact the team. So yes, I am upset if he smokes pot, because he'd be putting his pothead lifestyle ahead of his team, and the job he's paid millions of dollars to do.

Sorry, he doesn't get a free pass for being a me-first asshat from me.
 

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Sure, but that doesn't mean he hasn't majorly screwed up by placing himself in front of the team. He's set to miss 1/4 of the season. A very important season. We just managed to acquire a real quarterback, so the season was starting to look up...until we lost one of our defensive stars to greed and stupidity. He made mistakes plural, not A mistake. You should say 'don't let it happen a 4th, 5th, or 6th time.'



I don't care about life choices like that, except as they impact the team. So yes, I am upset if he smokes pot, because he'd be putting his pothead lifestyle ahead of his team, and the job he's paid millions of dollars to do.

Sorry, he doesn't get a free pass for being a me-first asshat from me.

Fair enough. But are you on the trade him bandwagon because of this? To me that is incredibly short sighted.

I think the first and second violations should be public violations so that it doesnt get to a third strike before the entire world knows. Maybe that would keep players from thinking they can get away with it the 1st and 2nd time.

Thats likely what happened with DWash in my opinion. He thought he could manage it until the third time and - whoops - his masking agent didnt work, or he was randomly tested and boom he was suspended.

I am fully confident this will be handled internally. Happens again and Washington canforget about the the team supporting him. Seems like a smart enough guy where that doesnt happen and I highly doubt he is that "addicted" to marijuana where he cant control him self.
 

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There seem to be a lot of misconceptions of what marijuana can do to you.

First, for those that say it is cool to smoke and drive.







http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana


ah yes, government research, the best way to find the truth about marijuana

:sarcasm:

the last government marijuana study I read said that it kills brain cells. they figured this out by attaching gas masks to monkeys and flooding them with marijuana smoke for 5 minutes.

suffocation caused the loss of brain cells but lets just blame marijuana.
 

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But are you on the trade him bandwagon because of this? To me that is incredibly short sighted.

I'm not on the trade him or cut him bandwagon--I never said that. I'm on the 'he's a selfish ******* no matter what excuse anyone can come up with and I can't believe anyone would defend him' bandwagon.

ah yes, government research, the best way to find the truth about marijuana

:sarcasm:

the last government marijuana study I read said that it kills brain cells. they figured this out by attaching gas masks to monkeys and flooding them with marijuana smoke for 5 minutes.

suffocation caused the loss of brain cells but lets just blame marijuana.

Uh, yeah, marijuana does indeed kill brain cells. The research around it isn't based on one governmental experiment you say was done five years ago with monkeys either.
 

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I'm not on the trade him or cut him bandwagon--I never said that. I'm on the 'he's a selfish ******* no matter what excuse anyone can come up with and I can't believe anyone would defend him' bandwagon.



Uh, yeah, marijuana does indeed kill brain cells. The research around it isn't based on one governmental experiment you say was done five years ago with monkeys either.


it wasnt 5 years ago, it was much longer ago than that. But neverless, I am talking about the original study that claimed brain cell loss was suffocating monkeys in smoke killing their brain cells. If you can find where I said "marijuana does not kill any brain cells" you let me know. Simply using an example of why government research on pot is hogwash.
 

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for fun, a canadian study

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25509

As far as the study I was poking fun at:

The report from Dr. Heath had concluded that Rhesus monkeys, smoking the equivalent of only 30 joints a day, began to atrophy and die after 90 days.

And ever since, dead brain cells found in monkeys who were forced to smoke marijuana has been given maximum scare play in federal booklets and government sponsored propaganda literature against pot.

Senator Eastland of Mississippi used it throughout the mid-1970s to horrify and stop national legislators from supporting NORML's decriminalization bills in Congress, mostly sponsored by the late Senator Jacob Javitts of New York.

Reports of the study have also been distributed by the hierarchy of drug rehabilitation professionals as part of their rationalization for wanting to get kids off pot, based on supposed scientific studies. It is used to terrorize parent groups, church organizations, etc., who redistribute it still further.

Heath killed the half-dead monkeys, opened their brains, counted the dead brain cells, and then took control monkeys, who hadn't smoked marijuana, killed them too, and counted their brain cells. The pot smoking monkeys had enormous amounts of dead brain cells as compared to the "straight" monkeys.

Ronald Reagan's pronouncement was probably based on the fact that marijuana smoking was the only difference in the two sets of monkeys. Perhaps Reagan trusted the federal research to be real and correct. Perhaps he had other motives.

Whatever their reasons, this is what the government ballyhooed to press and PTA, who trusted the government completely.

(sounds scary, right? well, let's look at how the study was done)

In 1980, Playboy and NORML finally received for the first time after six years of requests and suing the government an accurate accounting of the research procedures used in the infamous report:

When NORML/Playboy hired researchers to examine the reported results against the actual methodology, they laughed.

As reported in Playboy, the Heath "Voodoo" Research methodology involved strapping Rhesus monkeys into a chair and pumping them with equivalent of 63 Colombian strength joints in "five minutes, through gas masks," losing no smoke. Playboy discovered that Heath had administered 63 joints in five minutes over just three months instead of administering 30 joints per day over a one-year period as he had first reported. Heath did this, it turned out, in order to avoid having to pay an assistant's wages every day for a full year.

The monkeys were suffocating! Three to five minutes of oxygen deprivation causes brain damage "dead brain cells." (Red Cross Lifesaving and Water Safety Manual) With the concentration of smoke used, the monkeys were a bit like a person running the engine of a car in a locked garage for 5, 10, 15 minutes at a time every day!

The Heath Monkey study was actually a study in animal asphyxiation and carbon monoxide poisoning.

Among other things, Heath had completely (intentionally? incompetently?) omitted discussion of the carbon monoxide the monkeys inhaled.

Carbon monoxide, a deadly gas that kills brain cells, is given off by any burning object. At that smoke concentration, the monkeys were, in effect, like a person locked in a garage with the car engine left running for five, 10, 15 minutes at a time every day!

All subsequent researchers agree the findings in Heath's experiment regarding marijuana were of no value, because carbon monoxide poisoning and other factors were totally left out and had not been considered in the report. This study and others, like Dr. Gabriel Nahas' 1970s studies, tried to somehow connect the THC metabolites routinely found in the fatty tissue of human brains, reproductive organs, and other fatty areas of the body to the dead brain cells in the suffocated monkeys.

Now, in 1999, 17 years have passed and not a single word of Dr. Heath's or Dr. Nahas' research has been verified! But their studies are still hauled out by the Partnership for a Drug Free America, the Drug Enforcement Administration, city and state narcotics bureaus, plus politicians and, in virtually all public instances, held up as scientific proof of the dangers of marijuana.

http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/hemp/prohibition/no-clothes.html - Jack Herrer's famous book
 
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Fair enough. But are you on the trade him bandwagon because of this? To me that is incredibly short sighted.

is there an actual trade Washington bandwagon? I see a lot of people pissed because he did something to hurt the team, but I don't see a groundswell of support to trade him.
 

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Because you think we will miss Horton? Because we lost Adub and Rhodes? Because you dont like the replacements?

i think the combination of missing Rhodes, Adub, Washington for 4 games and the fact that Bowles hasn't exactly "bowled" (yup, I went there) anyone over as a DC is what makes me nervous about our D this year.
 

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i think the combination of missing Rhodes, Adub, Washington for 4 games and the fact that Bowles hasn't exactly "bowled" (yup, I went there) anyone over as a DC is what makes me nervous about our D this year.


lol.

I hope the bowles movement goes well.
 

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i think the combination of missing Rhodes, Adub, Washington for 4 games and the fact that Bowles hasn't exactly "bowled" (yup, I went there) anyone over as a DC is what makes me nervous about our D this year.

Wilson, Rhodes, Washington, Lenon, Gay, Toler. That's 6 of our top 12 defensive players from last season. Can any team have that much turnover in one season and still be a top group?
 

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Wilson, Rhodes, Washington, Lenon, Gay, Toler. That's 6 of our top 12 defensive players from last season. Can any team have that much turnover in one season and still be a top group?

That's just the half of it, we are now in the toughest division in football and are nowhere near equipped to match up with any of them save St Louis and that's going to be a war of attrition at best for us. Our best defender is San Francisco's highlight reel. And for good measure Seattle tuned us up for 58, and it could have been worse. Not to mention that Todd Bowles is now our DC. Luckily he'll be gone a year from now, as clearly this was a move made in haste and has no relation to reality considering the Xanadu-esque roller skate parade to the end zone that was Philadelphia last year, before and after he took over. And since we are relatively the least equipped of any other team in any other division to match up with our division's two biggest weapons (ie, we don't have any linebackers to deal with speed at qb) then yeah we are in for a long, long season on defense. Maybe somebody can name five defenses with worse matchup problems within their division and I'll warm up to the idea that we are not going to get cooked. I'm sure we'll be aggressive though, weeeeee.

It's not all doom an gloom though, as our offense is going to be WAY better and our special teams are solid.

5-11

Amen
 
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