azdad1978
Championship!!!!
What am I not surprise that Stern is a tool. This is the same guy that decided to introduce the new ball without asking the players? Now I know why I favor the NFL more than the NBA.
David Stern on Dan Patrick Show right now...
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Chaplin
Better off silent
The whole show isn't, but I was able to hear the Stern portion a few minutes ago.
azdad1978
Championship!!!!
Dan Patrick said they will re-aired the interview after the coach interview is over.
Holy crap, Stern came into this smarmy as hell.
The bad press is getting to him I think.
I do agree with him in the respect that he is assigning blame to Amare and Diaw for leaving the bench area while the rest of the team didn't leave. And that it, and the Horry incident are two seperate incidents.
I knew that he would hold hard and fast to the rule, but he did at least say if the owners want to change it over the summer they can do it. And that he can't supercede the rule and change the way it is enforced on the fly.
He's a person who has to enforce a bad rule, and enforce it strongly. He's also acting like a defensive jackass in this interview.
The bad press is getting to him I think.
I do agree with him in the respect that he is assigning blame to Amare and Diaw for leaving the bench area while the rest of the team didn't leave. And that it, and the Horry incident are two seperate incidents.
I knew that he would hold hard and fast to the rule, but he did at least say if the owners want to change it over the summer they can do it. And that he can't supercede the rule and change the way it is enforced on the fly.
He's a person who has to enforce a bad rule, and enforce it strongly. He's also acting like a defensive jackass in this interview.
Patrick did a bad job on this interview.. First of all he kept saying, "commissioner" about 56 times. Then letting him talk over him. I know Stern is mad, clearly because he doesnt want to do this and follow the letter of the law.
But who's law is this? Gods?
But who's law is this? Gods?
azdad1978
Championship!!!!
The league, which includes owners and which was voted on and approved by every team including how it is enforced.
Yes it sucks, but as the rule stands that is the way it is enforced. You can't change it on the fly...but I will almost guarantee that the league reviews it and adjusts the rule for the next season.
Evil Ash
Henchman Supreme
The why don't they enforce the rest of the rules like say TRAVELING or 3 seconds in the key? They let those go because its "playoff basketball" and the officials are morons.
However of all rules they enforce that one. Does this makes sense to anyone?
Thats the understatement of the century
JS22
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If anyone else was having problems with the stream, as I was, simply copy the stream location directly into media player. (File / open URL.) The URL is:
http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/il83winlive3202.asx
For some reason the web stream just wasn't working for me. Hopefully I can still catch the D'antoni interview and Stern replay.
http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/asxfiles-live/il83winlive3202.asx
For some reason the web stream just wasn't working for me. Hopefully I can still catch the D'antoni interview and Stern replay.
Evil Ash
Henchman Supreme
No its still open for interpretation. Who defines what the "vicinity of the bench" and an "altercation" is?
Well, since it isn't a ref's decision and is a league review rule, you are comparing apples to oranges.
green machine
I rule at posting
That is precisely where I thought the league would find their loophole. Everyone knows that the suspension isn't just, so I honestly thought the league would use the vicinity thing or the altercation thing and say that no suspensions were warranted. Sure, nobody would have believed that, but nobody would have argued.
Evil Ash
Henchman Supreme
In a way yes but the league is saying that this rule is iron-clad. So why in the hell aren't all of the rules?
They do.
And even if there weren't some exact definition of either, Amare was on the court and Horry got a game for throwing an elbow at Raja's neck while Amare was on the court. Even a liberal definition would say it's an altercation and he wasn't in the bench vicinity.
It would take an EXTREMELY conservative definition to say that Duncan was on the court during an altercation. Though he should have gotten a tech for being on the court during play.
The only answer there is that it is a simple rule (on court during altercation)based upon review of the tape, while traveling is a simple rule called by imperfect refs who miss things watching everything else, and which is not subject to tape review.
Okay. I think everyone understands the rule. Everyone understands it's a bad rule too. The double standard for Duncan walking on the court during A POTENTIAL ALTERCATION is what really gets me. Stern had just said - WE CAN'T GUESS WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN. But they do that with Duncan.
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But would an "EXTREMELY" conservative definition, and enforcing the rule strongly one in the same? To me it is.
It's the word potential there. That isn't in the rule as written.
JJ should have just punched him or shoved him and it would have been an altercation, and Duncan would be suspended. It only goes to show how the rule, while well intentioned, is poorly constructed.
God, Coach D'Antoni is the freaking coolest. I hope he's the Suns coach as long as he wants to be. He's so honest, funny, gives great answers and I think he's a damn fine coach.
I like how he's talking about "We don't fight, thats not us, we don't fight. Boris doesn't fight, we'd have to throw Boris into a fight"
I like how he's talking about "We don't fight, thats not us, we don't fight. Boris doesn't fight, we'd have to throw Boris into a fight"
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Evil Ash
Henchman Supreme
Actually Amare was on the court BEFORE the fight started.
However thats a fair argument on the altercation part of the argument but what about the vicinity of the bench? Thats an extremely vague term and leaves it way open for interpretation.
Still as I brought up in a previous thread if James Jones had kicked Elson was on the ground, then Duncan would be punished. However since he took the high road they have given no punishment whatsoever. No fine. No suspension. Not even a T.
All that tells me is the league is afraid of Tim Duncan
arthurracoon
The Cardinal Smiles
DAntoni on:
Im glad Im not a robot
Im glad I have feelings
players were already on the court at the end, since the game was over
players were starting to celebrate
No one wins in this situation, us, the fans, the league
has not talked with the front office
thinks fairness and common sense should factor in as well
this is an emotional game, and you react
Boris Diaw wasnt going to fight
not in his nature
if you are not trying to ruin the game in any capacity, then you make a good ruling for everyone
we will play hard
no retaliation
I think we're going to win
Im glad Im not a robot
Im glad I have feelings
players were already on the court at the end, since the game was over
players were starting to celebrate
No one wins in this situation, us, the fans, the league
has not talked with the front office
thinks fairness and common sense should factor in as well
this is an emotional game, and you react
Boris Diaw wasnt going to fight
not in his nature
if you are not trying to ruin the game in any capacity, then you make a good ruling for everyone
we will play hard
no retaliation
I think we're going to win
