Dbacks close to acquiring Cory Patterson

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I just heard it on Gambo and Ash. Don't know what to think. Anyone know how many years and money he's due? Maybe a smaller market would be better for him..... Still, his attitude seems to be the biggest deterent to me. We all know about the strikeouts and everything else
 

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Stay away from Patterson especially if they plan on playing him in the lead off spot.
 
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I dont want him period, especially in the leadoff spot. He's honestly one of the most undisciplined hitters, leadoff or not, I've ever seen. Plus, he's got a horrible attitude. I'd rather give up more to get a cheaper and better Gathright. From what it looks like, it would be Green for Patterson with some others involved
 

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I dont want him period, especially in the leadoff spot. He's honestly one of the most undisciplined hitters, leadoff or not, I've ever seen. Plus, he's got a horrible attitude. I'd rather give up more to get a cheaper and better Gathright. From what it looks like, it would be Green for Patterson with some others involved

If it is Green for Patterson straight up I would do that. Green is being paid too much and while Patterson isn't patient, been rumored to have a horrible attitude, etc. we save money here. Now if we have to toss in a prospect, I say no way. I doubt Patterson will be the leadoff hitter here, but he might be decent for a few years.
 

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garbage>Corey Patterson>Jose Cruz Jr.

That looks like it would be an upgrade over where the Dbacks started last season.
 

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devilfan02 said:
I just heard it on Gambo and Ash. Don't know what to think. Anyone know how many years and money he's due? Maybe a smaller market would be better for him..... Still, his attitude seems to be the biggest deterent to me. We all know about the strikeouts and everything else

Patterson has so much untapped potential, and he's proven he can hit the long ball in the past.

Perhaps the change of scenery will do him some good, and depending on who Arizona trades, it could be a nice move.

Unfortunately, he's more of a #3 hitter, and does nothing to fill the void at the top of the lineup that Arizona needs.
 

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Insider Insight.......

Proper Name: Donald Corey Patterson
Born: August 13, 1979
Atlanta, GA
Height: 5-9
Weight: 180 lbs.
Age: 26
Pronounced: N/A Bats: Left
Throws: Right
Pos: CF
Experience: 5 years
2005 Salary: $2,800,000
College: N/A FANTASY
Percent Owned (Week +/-):
MLB: 41.1% (0.0%)
NL Only: 91.8% (0.0%)
Avg. Draft Position:
MLB: 44.0
NL Only: 20.9
AVG .215 | HR 13 | RBI 34

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Scouting Report



2004 Season

After undergoing knee surgery in July of 2003, Corey Patterson worked hard in the offseason and looked as if he hadn't lost a step of speed in center field or running the bases. He began the year as the Cubs' No. 2 hitter, but manager Dusty Baker made a bold move on August 1, putting the free-swinging Patterson in the leadoff spot. For a month, Patterson tore things up, but he cooled considerably in September.



Hitting

There's nothing Patterson can't do as a hitter. He can hit line drives, bunt for base hits and hit for power. He just needs to do it all more consistently. His main problems are a lack of patience, poor command of the strike zone and a stubborn streak that can serve him well or hold him back. Patterson is a free swinger who will jump on anything that looks good to him early in the count. He's susceptible to high fastballs out of the zone, especially with two strikes. He has improved markedly against lefthanded pitchers, hitting 31 points higher vs. southpaws last season than he did against righties.



Baserunning & Defense

Though not yet in the category of Andruw Jones or Jim Edmonds as a defensive center fielder, Patterson isn't far behind. He has great speed, something he has needed with Moises Alou and Sammy Sosa flanking him. Patterson's throwing arm is a good one. He led the Cubs with a career-best 32 stolen bases, and he's getting better every day at reading pitchers' moves.



2005 Outlook

GM Jim Hendry, who drafted Patterson in 1998, says he believes Patterson is capable of batting anywhere in the order and succeeding. If the Cubs can obtain a better leadoff man, it's possible Patterson could move to the No. 3 spot, a place manager Dusty Baker said he eventually envisions Patterson. If Patterson can become more selective at the plate, he is a potential 30-30 man and an All-Star.
 
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Patterson has so much untapped potential, and he's proven he can hit the long ball in the past.

Perhaps the change of scenery will do him some good, and depending on who Arizona trades, it could be a nice move.

Unfortunately, he's more of a #3 hitter, and does nothing to fill the void at the top of the lineup that Arizona needs.

We all know about his potential. Potential is one of the worst words in sports. Especially when talking about Patterson. You think Melvin is the type of manager who can get Patterson going???? Almost all our players walk around the field with absolutley zero intensity or enthusiasm due to Melvins boring attitude. Getting rid of Greens contract would be huge but not if it means taking on a huge, relativley expensive, risk in Patterson. Especially if we have to throw in a prospect or two.
 

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If getting Patterson means getting rid of Green then :thumbup: .

C Johnny Estrada
1B Conor Jackson
2B Craig Counsell
SS Stephen Drew
3B Troy Glaus
LF Luis Gonzalez
CF Carlos Quentin
RF Chad Tracy
Bench
Chris Snyder
Tony Clark
Alex Cintron
Corey Patterson
Scott Hairston (OF)
FA Infielder

SP
Javier Vazquez
Brandon Webb
Brad Halsey
Claudio Vargas
Dustin Nippert

RP
Russ Ortiz
Brandon Medders
Jose Valverde
Greg Aquino
Brandon Lyon
Brian Bruney or Jason Bulger

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This team wins 70-80 games.

Now if only they could unload Gonzo. For some reason I am stupid enough to want to give Scott Hairston a chance to play LF everyday.
 

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We already have Corey Patterson on our roster his name is Luis Terrero. The guy has speed and can hit for power at times but his attitude is bad and he is a head case.
 
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Would acquiring Patterson kill the Glaus trade (cause Tracy would have to be everyday RF)?? I would def rather trade Glaus for obvious reasons plus we can fill our CF need with someone else for the next couple years.
 
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Espo said:
We already have Corey Patterson on our roster his name is Luis Terrero. The guy has speed and can hit for power at times but his attitude is bad and he is a head case.

:fans: :fans:
 

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devilfan02 said:
Would acquiring Patterson kill the Glaus trade (cause Tracy would have to be everyday RF)?? I would def rather trade Glaus for obvious reasons plus we can fill our CF need with someone else for the next couple years.
They could always platoon Luis Terrero and Corey Patterson in CF :barf: and put Carlos Quentin in RF.
 
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nm132 said:
They could always platoon Luis Terrero and Corey Patterson in CF :barf: and put Carlos Quentin in RF.

No way. Byrnes has made it clear that he's not rushing Quentin. Therefore, I don't see Byrnes doing a trade that would call for Quentin to be called up
 

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You think Melvin is the type of manager who can get Patterson going????

Hell no, but I also don't see Melvin manning the ship beyond the All-Star break anyhow.

Getting rid of Greens contract would be huge but not if it means taking on a huge, relativley expensive, risk in Patterson. Especially if we have to throw in a prospect or two.

I don't quite want to put the cart before the horse and assume Patterson is going to be traded for Green, but if he is, then I think it's pretty much a wash, with contracts and age benefitting the Diamondbacks.

As for throwing a prospect or two in, I've heard the Cubs are looking to move him on the cheap, so I wouldn't suspect Arizona's going to be killing the farm to get him. Really, if Green is involved I call a straight swap.

Patterson's contract is 2.8 million dollars. Not too big of a bank breaking investment. Also, he had a MISERABLE 2005, however he's proven in the past that he can do the job, as proven by his 25 homer, 32 steal year in '04.
 

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nm132 said:
Now if only they could unload Gonzo. For some reason I am stupid enough to want to give Scott Hairston a chance to play LF everyday.

I wouldn't mind seeing Hairston get a shot to play LF every day myself. I think his bat is solid, and he could be at worst adequate at the position.
 

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I would rather see Marland Williams than Corey Patterson. He reminds me of Carl Everett/Milton Bradley. Can Jacque Jones play CF?
 

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I actually really like the deal, if it's just small prospects involved. Maybe this is a dream, but here's what I think Byrnes has up his sleeve.:

Trade Patterson for Green (With small prospects involved)

Trade Glaus somehow for propects (To ANA or BOS)

Trade Vazquez to DET or another team in need of SP for prospects.

Then field a team next season of:

C- Estrada
1B- Clark/Jackson
2B- Counsell
SS- Drew/Counsell/FA IF
3B- Tracy
LF- Gonzo
CF- Patterson/Quentin (IF MLB ready, will see during ST)
RF- Jackson?

This gives Jackson a shot to play EVERYDAY! :thumbup: Gives us room to move Quentin up if needed and we get Tracy starting daily, keeping our fan favorite, Gonzalez.

I see Byrnes loading up on prospects this season and then letting them develop and in 2-3 years having a very good, young team. But signing some good SP's this season to help us get by.
 
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I doubt Drew and def not Quentin will be MLB ready by opening day. Quentin would be in RF, only in CF when needed. He's not a CF. I think we should get a CF out of one of these trades and pass on Patterson. That guy is going to be nothing but a headache. IMO, a fans worst nightmare- KO's, bad attitude..... Plus, he's NOT a leadoff hitter
 

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devilfan02 said:
I doubt Drew and def not Quentin will be MLB ready by opening day. Quentin would be in RF, only in CF when needed. He's not a CF. I think we should get a CF out of one of these trades and pass on Patterson. That guy is going to be nothing but a headache. IMO, a fans worst nightmare- KO's, bad attitude..... Plus, he's NOT a leadoff hitter

We'll see. Like I said, prior to this year, we hadn't seen or heard anything about Patterson's attitude and he really showed a glimpse of his potential in '04. If we acquire THAT Corey Patterson, it'll be a coup. If we get the Patterson of '05, then I agree Byrnes needs to hold out. However, I'm one who thinks '05 was an enigma year and this change of scenery will do him well.

I also agree that this does nothing to solve their leadoff hitter woes. I'm wondering what Byrnes has up his sleeve. Granderson would have been nice, and so would Coco Crisp. You already know where I stand on Gaithright and Figgins :lol:
 
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Figgins in '06!!!! We'll see about Patterson. I'm just weary about him. have Patterson in CF and Figgins at 3B/leading off. Too good to be true (in figgins case) :(
 

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devilfan02 said:
Figgins in '06!!!! We'll see about Patterson. I'm just weary about him. have Patterson in CF and Figgins at 3B/leading off. Too good to be true (in figgins case) :(

I'd kiss copius amounts of ass to see Figgins acquired. I'd be the first to buy a Chone Figgins D-Backs jersey. That guy is guts and what baseball players should be all about. Plus, he's a speed demon on the paths.

Keep our fingers crossed huh?
 

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