D'backs "close" to deal for Danys Baez

[Ryanwb]

Heard on the radio that the D'backs are going hard after Danys Baez from Tampa Bay and are close to a deal. Apparently the Devil Rays are asking for anyone of the following:

Sergio Santos
Conor Jackson
Carlos Quentin

Yeah right.....


Edit: found this from the Chicago Sun-Times (near the bottom)
http://www.suntimes.com/output/deluca/cst-spt-deluca261.html

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Heard on the radio that the D'backs are going hard after Danys Baez from Tampa Bay and are close to a deal. Apparently the Devil Rays are asking for anyone of the following:

Sergio Santos
Conor Jackson
Carlos Quentin

Yeah right.....


Edit: found this from the Chicago Sun-Times (near the bottom)
http://www.suntimes.com/output/deluca/cst-spt-deluca261.html

I would be somewhat inclined to consider trading Santos now that there isnt really a true long-term position for him (unless the Dbacks did consider converting him to 1B).... However... the Dbacks must ensure that they're truly in contention to pull off that type of trade, so they must remain patient and wait around the Trading Deadline or at least just after the AllStar Break...

 

[Ryanwb]

I would be somewhat inclined to consider trading Santos now that there isnt really a true long-term position for him (unless the Dbacks did consider converting him to 1B).... However... the Dbacks must ensure that they're truly in contention to pull off that type of trade, so they must remain patient and wait around the Trading Deadline or at least just after the AllStar Break...

I agree that Santos is looking more and more expendable... but I'm not so sure this is the deal. I followed Baez last year because he was on my fantasy team, he had Mantei'ish meltdowns almost nightly

 

[AZZenny]

I was in Tucson this weekend - Santos looked defensively unpolished to a degree that surprised me. I guess the team was extremely tired from a delayed flight, so maybe that was it. He looked OK at the plate. I'd trade Santos, but not for a relief pitcher, and especially an oft-injured pitcher... Oh, wait, I forgot -- Joe collects them. Skeeery.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

I agree that Santos is looking more and more expendable... but I'm not so sure this is the deal. I followed Baez last year because he was on my fantasy team, he had Mantei'ish meltdowns almost nightly

Yeah.. plus.. it seems that Bruney has become more effective since Cormier assisted him in establishing that curve-ball and he's since converted 4 consecutive save opportunities and has done so without the drama he was notorious with before....

I would be so impulsive at this time...I'm certain if they waited longer that some other quality reliever (that is better than Baez) may soon become available and probably wont cost as much... The question again.. are the Dbacks contenders or pretenders? Only the next month or so will dictate that... No way to possibly sacrifice any of the uber prospects now for someone that might compound matters worse and then you'd have to deal with the long-term implications of watching that promising prospect you gave-up in the detail flourish, but the player they acquired flounder....

I just dont want to see the John Smotlz for Doyle Alexander happen to the Dbacks... True.. Alexander went 9-0 and helped propel the Tigers over the Blue Jays to clinch the AL East in '87 (and soon lose to the eventual World Series Champions in the 5-game ALCS) and he also went 14-11 in '88, but went 6-18 in '89....

Yet..someone please remind all that Smotlz has accomplished since that '87 deadline trade... and to think that Braves really wanted Steve Searcy instead... Ahhhhh.. sorry for that.....

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

We dont need a closer, we need help getting to the closer.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

We dont need a closer, we need help getting to the closer.

Aquino and Valverde have seemed to come back from their injuries, but I know it's only based on a small sample size (their performance over this past wk), and of course they could always reinjure themselves...

True.. another broad generalization on a small sample size, but what happens to Ortiz once he's reactivated off the DL if Vargas is still winning? Would the Dbacks swallow their collective pride and put Ortiz in the BP for him to reclaim his spot in the rotation or would you automatically hand back the starting role to Ortiz regardless if Vargas is still successful?

 

[KingLouieLouie]

To come to think of it... I'd much rather have Joan Baez over Danys Baez....

At least she wouldnt come as costly and would be able to perform the National Anthem/God Bless America on a daily basis which could serve for better use over Danny since he is so injury prone!

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

With BJ Upton waiting in the wings I don't see why the D-Rays would want Santos unless they plan on converting one of the two. Much to my shock, the bullpen has been showing signs of life the past week although I still would like to see a lefty added back there. I'm taking this Baez interest as a sign that Lyon could be out indefinitely so closer could be more of a need than we think but there's no way Baez is the guy we need.

EDIT - Taking a look at his stats I see that while his ERA is low, Baez walks a lot of guys and has average strikeout numbes for a closer. Not surprisingly, these numbers have helped him in blowing 6 of 19 save opportunites.

 

[burndoggy]

amen.

We dont need a closer, we need help getting to the closer.

 

[Delmon Young]

Your GM would be an absolute moron to do this trade. While I as a Devil Rays fan would love it, I would really feel bad for you guys. Danys Baez, simply put, is average at best on a good day. I can't even recall how many saves he's blown this year.

 

[AZZenny]

Your GM would be an absolute moron to do this trade.

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[Espo]

I was in Tucson this weekend - Santos looked defensively unpolished to a degree that surprised me. I guess the team was extremely tired from a delayed flight, so maybe that was it. He looked OK at the plate. I'd trade Santos, but not for a relief pitcher, and especially an oft-injured pitcher... Oh, wait, I forgot -- Joe collects them. Skeeery.

I have seen every home game for the Sidewinders this year and Santos' defense is very good especially for how big he is. He has struggled at the plate this year but it is his first season in Triple-A and he is only 21 years old. This guy will be good whether its with the D-backs or not. They would be nuts to trade Jackson has he leads Triple-A in average and is only second to teamate Andy Green in hits. As for Quentin he is a stellar defensive right fielder and although his bat has cooled in the last month he still is probably is a close second to Jackson right now prospect wise. I say don't trade any of these guys at least not for Baez.

 

[green machine]

I would not be opposed to trading Santos at some point, like some have said, but I don't think now is the time to do it.

I mean, realistically, he has two higher prospects ahead of him at SS, with Drew and Upton. I see one of those two being the SS of the future for this team, so Santos is expendable there.

But, right now, since he has struggled somewhat at Triple A, his value is not gonna be as high as it may be somewhere down the road, once he gets used to that level.

 

[Ryanwb]

While I as a Devil Rays fan

I thought Devil Ray fans were make believe like vampires, unicorns and Eskimos

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

The guy I think we should be going after is Jay Witasick, who is having a solid year for a Rockies team that is obviously going nowhere. He could really shore up our long/middle relief. I havent heard him mentioned in any trade talk, and I bet he would cost a lot less in a trade than some of the other rumored names.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/11194

 

[AZZenny]

BWAAAA-HAAA-HAA-HA!!

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I think he'd have too many flashbacks pitching in BOB.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Our "lefty specialist" has an ERA over 10. That should be first order of business. Even Mike Myers is an upgrade over this Lopez guy.

 

[boondockdrunk]

Our "lefty specialist" has an ERA over 10. That should be first order of business. Even Mike Myers is an upgrade over this Lopez guy.

I hope you mean the Comedian, because you can't honestly think that the pitcher Mike Myers is better when he is throwing slower than most softball players.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

This cant be good...

http://rays.tbo.com/rays/MGBWLEB8NAE.html

 

[boondockdrunk]

This cant be good...

http://rays.tbo.com/rays/MGBWLEB8NAE.html

I am still not too worried. If they do indeed complete this rumored trade then I am going to burn down B.O.B. But how reliable can that source be?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

This cant be good...

http://rays.tbo.com/rays/MGBWLEB8NAE.html

If we mortgage any more of the future with the pipe dream of making the playoffs, I will be sick.

 

[devilalum]

Our "lefty specialist" has an ERA over 10. That should be first order of business. Even Mike Myers is an upgrade over this Lopez guy.

Myers is horrible but at least that guy with the mask would show up to the games.

Nothing like adding a carnival atmosphere to a losing team to help make them even more of a joke.

 

[devilalum]

This cant be good...

http://rays.tbo.com/rays/MGBWLEB8NAE.html

Unless this guy can throw 3 shutout innings AND drive in a couple runs everyday I don't know what good its going to do.

Cut up Juniors credit cards. NO BUYING.

SELL BABY SELL

 

[KingLouieLouie]

The Dbacks better not... I emphasize BETTER NOT be impulsive in making any deals...especially at risk of sacrificing a uber prospect for an erratic injury prone reliever.... True, I mentioned earlier in this thread that Santos is expendable, but obviously the Dbacks must acquire someone of equal merit/worth, not just deal him for the sake of trading him.....

The Devil Rays asking price is WAY too high especially considering that all it took for the Phillies to acquire Urbina (who's WAY better than Baez) from the Tigers was Polanco... In fact... the Tigers had to include a utility infield, Ramon Martinez, in order to complete the deal....

The Dbacks must wait until the final wk heading to the non-waiver trade deadline because by then they'll really know whether or not theyre either contenders or pretenders and then some team might be willing to offer a better reliever than Baez for less cost (perhaps he's not on the market now because that team believes they may well have a legit shot now in their own division/Wildcard race or waiting for one of their youngters to be fully capable to assume the role)......

Also.. there's the Lyon factor... It appears he has made considerable progress as of late and will be ready to retain the closer spot himself, so again best to remain patient instead of mortgaging away the future for absolutely nothing...