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Uh, no. Colangelo negotiated contracts that ultimately he didn't have the cash to pay, so then he re-negotiated several contracts to be paid out over a longer period of time -- with interest. That's why the payroll has been under lock and key -- the D-Backs are still paying for the 2001 championship.

You're right, there are contract negotiations that result in extending the payout, but don't alter the amount, and there are negotiations that essentially eat the current contract by extending the player beyond the current endpoint, but there are no negotiations that equate to a buy out, which was what was on my mind when replying to your 50 cents on the dollar comment.
 

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You're right, there are contract negotiations that result in extending the payout, but don't alter the amount, and there are negotiations that essentially eat the current contract by extending the player beyond the current endpoint, but there are no negotiations that equate to a buy out, which was what was on my mind when replying to your 50 cents on the dollar comment.

My initial comment was to see if there were someone that liked Chris Young as a fourth outfielder and would be willing to pick up a portion (however big or small) of his contract to have him on their roster. It would be cheaper to pay 80 percent of his contract to have him play for someone else than to keep him in the lineup and pay all of his salary. He's a big fat negative in the lineup.
 

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My initial comment was to see if there were someone that liked Chris Young as a fourth outfielder and would be willing to pick up a portion (however big or small) of his contract to have him on their roster. It would be cheaper to pay 80 percent of his contract to have him play for someone else than to keep him in the lineup and pay all of his salary. He's a big fat negative in the lineup.

These are the comments I was arguing with:

If I were GM I would've waived him already and eaten his salary ...

But a negotiated cash buyout of Young's contract saves the team money over the long run.

If Colangelo can do that, the team and Young can't reach an agreement for, say 50 cents on the dollar to let him walk and find someplace else to play?

because they seem to have a misunderstanding of the way baseball contracts work. They also don't seem consistent with your idea above, which could be argued a valid opinion to hold.
 

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Garland's contract next season is likely keeping teams away. There is a mutal option for like $10 million or so, plus a buyout option for $2,000,000. So a team would be on the hook for his remaining salary this season, plus at least $2,000,000 next year.

I don't know if you can justify that amount of cash for 12 more starts
 

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My initial comment was to see if there were someone that liked Chris Young as a fourth outfielder and would be willing to pick up a portion (however big or small) of his contract to have him on their roster. It would be cheaper to pay 80 percent of his contract to have him play for someone else than to keep him in the lineup and pay all of his salary. He's a big fat negative in the lineup.

My issue is that you would pay him to go away plus you'd have to pay someone to take his place in the lineup. That's a huge blow to this team's ability to be competative over the next several seasons
 
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D-backs starters still on the market — 12:15 p.m.

Attention, deadline shoppers:

Diamondbacks left-hander Doug Davis and right-hander Jon Garland remain available.

But with four hours of unrestricted trading left, both were continuing to draw minimal interest, with one major-league source describing the market for them as "remarkably quiet."

Both pitchers figure to clear waivers in August, and could be moved before the Aug. 31 deadline for setting post-season rosters.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9875596
 

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My issue is that you would pay him to go away plus you'd have to pay someone to take his place in the lineup. That's a huge blow to this team's ability to be competative over the next several seasons

:yeahthat:


Considering the FA market is the most inefficient way of paying for talent, it's not financially reasonable to boot CY and pay for even 80% of his salary with no return and no obvious options to replace him. Hell, EB would be first in line for this type of thinking anyways.
 

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I am suprised that a team playing this bad didn't unload something. At least we're not the Pirates.

Jake Peavy is out of the division!!
 

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