Deshaun Watson

[cardncubfan]

You think im hating, but im just quoting fact. I didnt make up these stats. Boyd and Watson are practically clones.

Same school, same system, and their stats are within hundreths of a point of each other. Tahj was out of the NFL in 2 years.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tajh-boyd-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/deshaun-watson-1.html


honestly. If you can explain your way of of this without just saying "whatever, youre just a hater" ill be impressed.

But are they on the same higher level of intellect as you? That is the important question.

 

[cardncubfan]

Thats fine. Sometimes im right, sometimes im wrong, but disprove me on this topic.

Its not stubbornness. I have presented iron-clad, ink on paper statistics which support my opinion. If anyone disagree, then do so by presenting evidence.

In court the defense just cant say "nuh-uh, hes wrong". You have to present evidence. I have presented mine.

There is one huge difference between the two & that's the supporting cast. No one knows what they would or would not produce if you swapped the supporting cast.

 

[football karma]

the pro for Watson:

NFL arm. Impressive when mechanics are right how the ball jumps out of his hand. Tough, athletic. Leader who teammates love. High marks by the coaches in ability to process the offense (probably a highly underrated aspect for a NFL prospect). The guy plays big in big games.

the con:

slight build makes you wonder if he will last. For every fantastic throw -- there are some real clunkers too. I think his comp % (like nearly all spread QBs) is padded by WR screens and other really short throws.

i think he is worth the lotto ticket at 13 -- it would take two years, but AZ would be a good situation for him.

 

[Dback Jon]

How many of those guys played in the national championship game last year? You know when he dropped 400 yards on Alabama

Renfrew and Leggitt

 

[unseenaz]

67% Career Completion percentage...that's not all that accurate? I think, as others have mentioned, he compares well to Marcus Mariota...Mariota had a college completion % of 64%...and Mariota's college system was even more spread and shoot than Clemson's.

I think the Cards and other teams could do a whole lot worse than Watson at QB.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/marcus-mariota-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/deshaun-watson-1.html

Look how many INTs he has thrown in college. You can pad completion percentages, can't hide INTs

 

[Reign Blood]

He is another Russel Wilson, if he's there grab him.

 

[Finito]

You are the one who has made up their mind and is being bias. At least I have evidence to support my opinion. Just sayin

No not really. Dude you were calling them soft and bust 5 minutes into the game then they played amazing and its uh well they still suck

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Come on, gang. Just think of all the pro players on that Alabama D, not to mention how many will go in the first round. And how many yards and TDs did he put up on them. Is there anything else that needs to be said, really? If I were a GM in need of a QB, I would tell every scout, stats guy, and anyone else around that has an opinion to put in, that don't even talk to me about all that. The guy is a winner. End of discussion. I have seen all I need to know. If he is there, you take him.

Is he a sure bet? Is anyone? I like his odds and would put my money on him.

 

[CHAPTER 7]

I have no opinion on this guy since I didn't really watch him play. But his physique reminds me of Vince Young. I hope his talent is not like him if we pick him...

 

[Cardiac]

I have no opinion on this guy since I didn't really watch him play. But his physique reminds me of Vince Young. I hope his talent is not like him if we pick him...

It wasn't Young's talent level that was the issue but his mind and attitude IMO. I get your point but to me it's a point worth distinguishing.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Look how many INTs he has thrown in college. You can pad completion percentages, can't hide INTs

Yup, that 3-1 ratio is pathetic.

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[Jetstream Green]

He is another Russel Wilson, if he's there grab him.

I do not agree that he is another Wilson... I believe Wilson had a better completion ratio than Luck or RGIII in the draft and is far more accurate in my opinion

 

[Jetstream Green]

It wasn't Young's talent level that was the issue but his mind and attitude IMO. I get your point but to me it's a point worth distinguishing.

And Young still has a winning record as a QB in the NFL lol

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

And Young still has a winning record as a QB in the NFL lol

That always got me. Hard to imagine a team saying, "Get rid of this guy, he keeps winning and making us look bad. His form is just not NFL ready. He is embarrassing us ..... Dump him."

 

[GatorAZ]

And Young still has a winning record as a QB in the NFL lol

99 yard walk and owned Leinart again lol

 

[unseenaz]

Yup, that 3-1 ratio is pathetic.

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choosing to be blissfully ignorant is fine, just don't start throwing stats out there if you're going to ignore others.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

choosing to be blissfully ignorant is fine, just don't start throwing stats out there if you're going to ignore others.

Who are you calling blissful?

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[Cbus cardsfan]

I've been saying for awhile that Watson is the only QB I'd consider drafting if I was the Cards.

The Taj Boyd comparison is laughable. Bodha, you get on here and rip Connor Cook and Chad Kelly for their demeanor and being complete tools. Boyd fits right in that category. Watson and Boyd's makeup, decision making, and leadership are night and day. Their stats may be similar but that's where it begins and ends. Plus, Watson is bigger and has a frame to add more weight to deal with NFL sized players. Boyd was a maxed out 5'11-6'0 QB with little room for growth.

Good comparisons:
Boyd=Troy Smith
Watson= Prescott(but Watson is a better prospect)

 

[Cardsfanstl]

I've been saying for awhile that Watson is the only QB I'd consider drafting if I was the Cards.

The Taj Boyd comparison is laughable. Bodha, you get on here and rip Connor Cook and Chad Kelly for their demeanor and being complete tools. Boyd fits right in that category. Watson and Boyd's makeup, decision making, and leadership are night and day. Their stats may be similar but that's where it begins and ends. Plus, Watson is bigger and has a frame to add more weight to deal with NFL sized players. Boyd was a maxed out 5'11-6'0 QB with little room for growth.

Good comparisons:
Boyd=Troy Smith
Watson= Prescott(but Watson is a better prospect)

I think he will look good in Cardinal red but probably will not be around at #13

 

[Mitch]

I think he will look good in Cardinal red but probably will not be around at #13

Interesting, but yesterday Mel Kiper predicted that Watson will likely go in Round 2. Mel has Trubisky and Kizer going in Round 1.

 

[cardpa]

I've been saying for awhile that Watson is the only QB I'd consider drafting if I was the Cards.

The Taj Boyd comparison is laughable. Bodha, you get on here and rip Connor Cook and Chad Kelly for their demeanor and being complete tools. Boyd fits right in that category. Watson and Boyd's makeup, decision making, and leadership are night and day. Their stats may be similar but that's where it begins and ends. Plus, Watson is bigger and has a frame to add more weight to deal with NFL sized players. Boyd was a maxed out 5'11-6'0 QB with little room for growth.

Good comparisons:
Boyd=Troy Smith
Watson= Prescott(but Watson is a better prospect)

I think this comparison is a little premature. Yes, Prescott has had a good first year however he needs to prove he can sustain his success down the road. We have seen way too many QBs have one good year to be followed by years of shall we say lesser play and production. I said the same thing about Wilson and he has proven to be capable of consistent production which now places him in the competent QB territory. Remember Prescott has been helped by an above average running game which takes a decent amount of pressure off of him. If he keeps up the production in years 2 and 3 then I will willingly place him in that competent category.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think this comparison is a little premature. Yes, Prescott has had a good first year however he needs to prove he can sustain his success down the road. We have seen way too many QBs have one good year to be followed by years of shall we say lesser play and production. I said the same thing about Wilson and he has proven to be capable of consistent production which now places him in the competent QB territory. Remember Prescott has been helped by an above average running game which takes a decent amount of pressure off of him. If he keeps up the production in years 2 and 3 then I will willingly place him in that competent category.

You're right about Prescott, way too early. A better comparison, as a prospect, is probably Alex Smith. Both are athletic, productive college players with passing skills. I think Watson has a better arm than Smith though.

 

[cardsfanmd]

They are practically identical.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tajh-boyd-1.html

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/deshaun-watson-1.html

Lol. Did you think nobody would look at the links?

 

[Bodha]

Lol. Did you think nobody would look at the links?

? I dont know what that means

I posted them because I compared Watson to Boyd, and everyone said hes nothing like Boyd. These stats show them to be clones.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

With their recent history of not playing their 1st round picks, it makes sense for the Cards to draft him and have him sit.

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