DET@AZ: Heroes and Goats

[JCSunsfan]

O-line. No sacks. First time the Lions have gone without a sack all year.

 

[Chopper0080]

As much as I can see Stanton being on the Goat list, he could easily be on the Hero side as well. He set the tone for that game with his 2 1st qtr Td's. Got us up early and let the D do what it does best- shut the other team down. Being ahead early clearly helped us win this game IMO.

I think you have to reference the comment made that GOATS this week are going to be nitpicky. Stanton did not play a terrible game, but he also gave the Lions a couple extra possesions that they shouldn't have had. Also, one of his picks led to half of the Lions points in the game. Stanton just needs to clean it up a bit, and continue to improve. Same as all the other players on the team.

 

[CardLogic]

O-line. No sacks. First time the Lions have gone without a sack all year.

That was the most impressive and most surprising aspect of the game!

My major concern going in was that Detroit's DL was going to dominate the game. Didn't happen. Well done, Veldheer, Larsen, Sendlein, Fanaika, and Massie!

 

[Iceman]

I think you have to reference the comment made that GOATS this week are going to be nitpicky. Stanton did not play a terrible game, but he also gave the Lions a couple extra possesions that they shouldn't have had. Also, one of his picks led to half of the Lions points in the game. Stanton just needs to clean it up a bit, and continue to improve. Same as all the other players on the team.

Yep. Very true for sure

 

[Jetstream Green]

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1. Patrick Peterson, CB. Marquee matchup of the game put Calvin Johnson on utter lockdown. Being able to contain the most dynamic offensive weapon in the game for 3+ quarters when the offense was toothless was the most important element for the Cards.

2. Michael Floyd, WR. In the face of a lot of doubters and haters, Floyd re-appeared when the Cards needed him most and generated all the points the Redbirds needed to get the victory.

3. Ted Larsen and Paul Fanaika, OGs. Ndamokung Who?

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1. Drew Stanton, QB. Two absolutely terrible picks and three quarters of getting zero points is a problem. The weeks to come will tell whether the NFL has started to "figure out" Drew Stanton. Stanton has to get better if the Cards are going to meet their Super Bowl aspirations.

2. Jerroud Powers, CB. Goats are going to be nitpicky in a game that was more dramatic than it needed to be. Powers missed what would have been a great interception and blew coverage on a completion to Golden Tate that could've proved costly.

3. Carson Palmer, QB. Disappointing that Palmer decided to sit this one out. The rest of the Cardinals captains have managed to come to the game and cheer on their teammates.

I do not think Palmer or Powers belongs in the goat conversation because Powers also had a defense towards the end of the game on a pass to Johnson late and one where he ran with him stride for stride and defended a deep pass. As far as Palmer, I do not know when he had his surgery but I doubt his condition with a recent surgery allows for him being on the sideline for three hours. Cromartie deserves a hero recognition as well, because he shut down Tate which had been the Lions meal ticket when Megatron was out

 

[AZCrazy]

I too have been critical of the OG play thus far, but in the last two weeks the O Line has taken on and handled the two best Defensive lines in football. Well done squad!

 

[MadCardDisease]

Was it Minter who had a shot at making a huge tackle for a big loss only to let Bell slip out of his hands and then rumble for a nice gain and a first down? Got to make that tackle! If it was Minter then he belongs on the goat list for that one play.

 

[kerouac9]

Was it Minter who had a shot at making a huge tackle for a big loss only to let Bell slip out of his hands and then rumble for a nice gain and a first down? Got to make that tackle! If it was Minter then he belongs on the goat list for that one play.

It was The Ghost.

 

[TRW]

3. Carson Palmer, QB. Disappointing that Palmer decided to sit this one out. The rest of the Cardinals captains have managed to come to the game and cheer on their teammates.

BA said Palmer would be on the sideline when "it was safe for him to be there". I think they said it would be a week or two before the swelling would allow surgery. Maybe he needs to be off of it until then?

Anyway, I wouldn't have put him on the "goat" list. Maybe Mr. Fair Catch would have been a better choice IMO.

 

[Chopper0080]

Was it Minter who had a shot at making a huge tackle for a big loss only to let Bell slip out of his hands and then rumble for a nice gain and a first down? Got to make that tackle! If it was Minter then he belongs on the goat list for that one play.

I didn't see anyone...I thought I did...but it must have been some sort of glare.

 

[CardLogic]

Was it Minter who had a shot at making a huge tackle for a big loss only to let Bell slip out of his hands and then rumble for a nice gain and a first down? Got to make that tackle! If it was Minter then he belongs on the goat list for that one play.

It was The Ghost.

I don't know, but I did see Cromartie do one of his infamous "Ole tackles" in a similar situation; and didn't even get a hand on Bell. Could that be the play you are thinking of?

 

[Iceman]

Peterson has now shut down the best 2 WRs in the NFL. Dez and Megatron. Finally playing up to what we all expected.

But Romo wasn't playing!!!

-According to the former "America's Team, Cowboys"

 

[MrYeahBut]

That stuff works at home sometimes, but it's hard to take that show on the road and be successful.

You're right there. Had the game been in Detroit the score probably would have been flipped.

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[Cheesebeef]

Minter definitely sucks out loud right now, but I'm hoping he's another Rashad Johnson, who I thought sucked out loud his first couple years and has turned into a solid safety.

 

[speedy]

3. Carson Palmer, QB. Disappointing that Palmer decided to sit this one out. The rest of the Cardinals captains have managed to come to the game and cheer on their teammates.

He is living in a continuous passive movement (CPM) device right now. The first 2-3 weeks are critical to any ACL injury (post surgery/reconstructive process).

You bring much insight and intelligence to the board K9, but this wasn't one of your finer moments

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Veldheer should be a fixture on the list. He's been playing at a Pro Bowl level all year.

The TE's finally had a good game as well. Carlson didn't drop a pass and there were Rob Houlser and Troy Niklas sightings too.

 

[long_season]

ginn should be here

Ginn should be on Goat list.

fair catches aside - he lets too many drop where our guys are trying to block gunners...we will lose a punt because the ball hits one of our defenders when he decides the ball is too difficult to catch.

he needs to go get the ball or someone else that is willing to should be back there.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Minter definitely sucks out loud right now, but I'm hoping he's another Rashad Johnson, who I thought sucked out loud his first couple years and has turned into a solid safety.

Man that would be NICE! I just don't see it though... Rashad at least is an athlete. Ghost appears to be quite unathletic...


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[BigRedRage]

IMO drew was a hero AND a goat.

 

[Iceman]

IMO drew was a hero AND a goat.

+1. Exactly my thoughts too. Hopefully K-9 will have Stanton on the Heros list after this weekend.

 

[kerouac9]

BA said Palmer would be on the sideline when "it was safe for him to be there". I think they said it would be a week or two before the swelling would allow surgery. Maybe he needs to be off of it until then?

Anyway, I wouldn't have put him on the "goat" list. Maybe Mr. Fair Catch would have been a better choice IMO.

He is living in a continuous passive movement (CPM) device right now. The first 2-3 weeks are critical to any ACL injury (post surgery/reconstructive process).

You bring much insight and intelligence to the board K9, but this wasn't one of your finer moments

Whole lotta people talking a bunch of guff about stuff they don't know any facts on:

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/11/18/surgery-for-palmer-step-one-in-comeback/

It was interesting to note last week that while Palmer was waiting to have surgery, he not only was around the team facility every day, but during practice, he was in the weight room, still working out the body parts he could with strength and conditioning coach Buddy Morris.

Tell me another one.

 

[TJ]

Whole lotta people talking a bunch of guff about stuff they don't know any facts on:



http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/11/18/surgery-for-palmer-step-one-in-comeback/







Tell me another one.

Standing around for four hours on a torn ACL and sitting or laying on a bench lifting or being in meeting rooms are way different things.

You honestly think Palmer is intentionally pulling himself away from the team by not being at the game?

 

[Chaz]

Whole lotta people talking a bunch of guff about stuff they don't know any facts on:

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2014/11/18/surgery-for-palmer-step-one-in-comeback/



Tell me another one.

Is Arians lying? Is that what you are saying?

Palmer, that has been a leader for this team, voted as captain by his teammates, lauded as a leader since then, just decided screw those guys I have better things to do on a Sunday afternoon?

Is this what you are saying?

Maybe you are saying that am NFL sideline isn't dangerous? Tell that to Sean Peyton.

 

[kerouac9]

Standing around for four hours on a torn ACL and sitting or laying on a bench lifting or being in meeting rooms are way different things.

You honestly think Palmer is intentionally pulling himself away from the team by not being at the game?

Is Arians lying? Is that what you are saying?

Palmer, that has been a leader for this team, voted as captain by his teammates, lauded as a leader since then, just decided screw those guys I have better things to do on a Sunday afternoon?

Is this what you are saying?

Maybe you are saying that am NFL sideline isn't dangerous? Tell that to Sean Peyton.

You can be up in the booth. You can be in the owner's suite. You can be sitting on the bench on the sideline with Tom Moore.

There's no medical reason that Carson Palmer wasn't at the game on Sunday. That's what I'm saying. He made the choice not to come.

 

[TJ]

You can be up in the booth. You can be in the owner's suite. You can be sitting on the bench on the sideline with Tom Moore.

There's no medical reason that Carson Palmer wasn't at the game on Sunday. That's what I'm saying. He made the choice not to come.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions without facts to fall back on.

All we know is that he wasn't at the game for one reason or another, but was around the team all week for conditioning and helping the team prepare for the game.

It's not like he flew back to So Cal to take advantage of being on IR. He's with the team.

To many of us, it's much ado about nothing. To you, it's a developing rift between Palmer and the organization, which will lead to Palmer requesting a trade or release from the team.