And one can assume Booker will?
Gotcha. The point being is there clearly are multiple thoughts on criteria. The latest one "always been a Sun". I actually have no preference on criteria but depending on which of the criteria posters prefer? My choices would likely change.
That's why this is so subjective. There are so many factors. I mean, would Booker have already won a title if Ishbia took over years ago? If Isbhia was here during the Nash era would he have made money saving decisions like our last owner did? If you count what ownership didn't do for Book, you also have to do that for other player eras don't you?
I feel like you’re the only one defining “greatest suns player” the way you are. Which is your right. But understand that it seems everyone else is operating under a different construct, which is also okay.
He didn’t say it was a requirement. So it’s not a screen. He said it’s a factor. And I agree with him.
I think they just place a higher value on longevity.
Actually my criteria is more complicated. If you go back to my list I list Nash, Barkley, Booker. So, I didn’t include people that were not in the prime or at the end of their careers like Shaq and Vince. So even though I am factoring career, only in that scenario.
Then I don’t understand your criteria (which again is fine). If you’re factoring in their non-suns career, but only sometimes, what other criteria has to occur for you to consider their nonSuns career?
When they are all great players for what they do at their position and there are no titles to differentiate them. I go to the career (like league MVPs, are they transformative players for teams that instantly make a team a contender) to determine my order. I think they are all great players so there has to be a differentiator.
He was Dallas’ best playoff perimeter defender by a mile and he got a lot of points in the paint on their title team. Marion is underrated in my opinion especially as a defender. In the mavericks title run Marion had to guard Kobe, KD, and lebron/wade. And he did very well.
I hear drafted by Suns, longevity and not surrounding Booker with the needed quality players. Surprised no mention of Walter.
One of my all time favorite players.
This is simply untrue. First of all he was dealing with an injury for most of the Lakers series and was often more of a liability than helpful in that series.
Agreed. Still, I don't believe we make the finals without CP3. But without Booker we probably fall short of the postseason.
We certainly wouldn't have been in finals without either one of them. Booker didn't carry the team to the finals, but he certainly was at least a co-leader of getting us there.
You know what kills me about KJ? I heard him in an interview talk about his hamstrings may not have had to be an issue with him at all if they had found the undiagnosed hernia he had been playing with for years which after the fact they think had much to do with his hamstring strains. His numbers would have been even more sick.
I won't be shocked if we don't win a title and he either doesn't finish out this contract or does finish it without extending so he can test the market.
