Dexter done

[clif]

Jackson vesus Ohalete. Their really is little to separate one of these guys from the other. In 2003 for the Redskins, Ohalete played in 15 games and recorded 105 tackles (72 solo) and had 3 INT's. Jackson in 2003 for the Cards had 105 tackles (70 solo) and 7 INT's.

This is Ohaletes 4th season and Jackson would have been entering his 6th.

Ohalete is 6'2"/222 and Jackson is 6'1"/210.

I'm guessing that "bang for the buck" was an issue here. Jackson was slightly overpaid and with a "funky" back, he might be a potential Duane Starks year in and year out, injury wise. If he did have a "Kendall" like attitude, it might be for the best that he's gone.

good comparison spanky

 

[DieHardFromMO]

I wonder if Dexter Jackson will end up joining Big Ben with the Steelers, since it was the Steelers that we outbid for Dexter's services.

 

[Lex]

The Redskins just signed a guy by the name of Pat Dennis to play safety for them.

Would they be interested in Dex too?

Don't they have Sean Taylor playing safety in Washington?

Perhaps the skins would trade the guy that Taylor replaced for Dex ... oh wait, we already got that guy.

 

[Russ Smith]

Jackson vesus Ohalete. Their really is little to separate one of these guys from the other. In 2003 for the Redskins, Ohalete played in 15 games and recorded 105 tackles (72 solo) and had 3 INT's. Jackson in 2003 for the Cards had 105 tackles (70 solo) and 7 INT's.

This is Ohaletes 4th season and Jackson would have been entering his 6th.

Ohalete is 6'2"/222 and Jackson is 6'1"/210.

I'm guessing that "bang for the buck" was an issue here. Jackson was slightly overpaid and with a "funky" back, he might be a potential Duane Starks year in and year out, injury wise. If he did have a "Kendall" like attitude, it might be for the best that he's gone.

That's iffy, Ohalete was released for a reason, he's not very good.

THe Bucs let Jackson go because they didn't have caproom, and they had Dwight Smith, a year later with Lynch gone they moved Smith to SS and have
Jermaine Phillips starting at FS.

Tackle stats are impossible to compare they're just not accurate teams do it themselves.

On the field Dex was CLEARLY better than Ohalete. Now would he still be better now after the back problem I don't know, but last year the ONE guy on defense who made any plays was Dexter Jackson. If he's healthy next year with the group we have now he's going to be a much better player than Ohalete

 

[Russ Smith]

The Redskins just signed a guy by the name of Pat Dennis to play safety for them.

Would they be interested in Dex too?

Don't they have Sean Taylor playing safety in Washington?

Perhaps the skins would trade the guy that Taylor replaced for Dex ... oh wait, we already got that guy.

They signed Dennis before we cut Dex. And remember, because he's been on IR Dex has not been practicing, even if he's 100% healthy he's not going to be playing on Sunday for a few weeks.

Taylor is playing FS, he beat out Ohalete and andre Lott, who's now hurt, Lott was ahead of Ohalete, we got their #3 FS not their #2. If they were to pursue Dex he'd either have to play SS, or they'd move Taylor.

Taylor can play both spots but my guess is they won't want to move him midseason as a rookie. but Dex is a good enough tackler he can play SS, hell he basically played SS for us last year he made more tackles than Adrian Wilson and was all over the field.


Obviously with the timing and not having been allowed to practice for months now, Dex is going to have to show he's in shape before he's going to be able to play, assuming he's in fact healthy.

 

[spanky1]

That's iffy, Ohalete was released for a reason, he's not very good.

THe Bucs let Jackson go because they didn't have caproom, and they had Dwight Smith, a year later with Lynch gone they moved Smith to SS and have
Jermaine Phillips starting at FS.

Tackle stats are impossible to compare they're just not accurate teams do it themselves.

On the field Dex was CLEARLY better than Ohalete. Now would he still be better now after the back problem I don't know, but last year the ONE guy on defense who made any plays was Dexter Jackson. If he's healthy next year with the group we have now he's going to be a much better player than Ohalete

Russ,

I agree, he's no Pro Bowler. But if you look closely at D. Jackson's career to date, it doesn't actually profile as any great shakes. He spent his 1st two years on the Bucs ST unit before he cracked the starting lineup. He didn't become MVP of the SB because he played lights out all year long for TB either......he had a good game at the right time in front of a national audience. He did benefit from playing along side of John Lynch on an otherwise stellar defense.

Now on our defense last year we had a pretty weak secondary. Being the top dog wasn't going to be that difficult all things considered. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the best out of a poor situation, but losing Jackson isn't going to make a whole heck of a lot of difference. Do you think he's been missed much this year? I don't.

Who knows, maybe Ohalete can be coached up to become more than an adequate replacement. Our secondary coaches seem to have been able to bring the best out of Macklin and Wilson.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ,

I agree, he's no Pro Bowler. But if you look closely at D. Jackson's career to date, it doesn't actually profile as any great shakes. He spent his 1st two years on the Bucs ST unit before he cracked the starting lineup. He didn't become MVP of the SB because he played lights out all year long for TB either......he had a good game at the right time in front of a national audience. He did benefit from playing along side of John Lynch on an otherwise stellar defense.

Now on our defense last year we had a pretty weak secondary. Being the top dog wasn't going to be that difficult all things considered. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the best out of a poor situation, but losing Jackson isn't going to make a whole heck of a lot of difference. Do you think he's been missed much this year? I don't.

Who knows, maybe Ohalete can be coached up to become more than an adequate replacement. Our secondary coaches seem to have been able to bring the best out of Macklin and Wilson.

Yeah I do think he's been missed because he's better than Ohalete or Q Harris. The whole secondary is better because of Starks, Macklin and Wilson's better play. If it was easy being the best guy back there how come Wilson wasn't doing it last year?

Jackson took awhile to start because he was on a very good defense. I'm not saying he's a pro bowler and I have always said we overpaid to get him, but he was our best Defensive player last year, comparing him to Ohalete is a bit of a disservice.

Lynch has always been overrated, product of a great pass rush in Tampa, and he's past his prime now. Bronco fans are already calling for Nick Ferguson to get more PT, they consider Lynch the weak link on their defense.

 

[slanidrac16]

A lot of discission over a player we considered out for the season.

There are so many factors that we don't know. It makes it impossible to come to a clear conclusion. Here is the bottom line.

Apparently, Jackson was not going to be a Cardinal next year. The team either came to conclsion that they weren't going to take a chance on his durability or they didn't believe he was as hurt as he claimed. Cutting him now saves us some money perhaps to be used on Wilson.

I think all the reasons we have discussed have played some kind of role.

We are going to see much more of what I am going to call the "Mike McKenzie" syndrome. Demand a new contract, hold out, finally report, fake an injury, thus forcing a team to move you. When McKenzie was finally traded, his agents statement was, "Mission accomplished". I'm surprised
Keenan McCardell hasn't tried the same thing.

For all we know Jackson may have said to Green, "OK fatman, I'm not going to practice. I've suddenly hurt my back". At that point Green could have just cut him and allowed Jackson to walk into another big payday and maybe come back to haunt us during the season. Maybe Green didn't want to take the chance of Jackson returning and just dogging it the rest of the season.

There is just too many "maybe's" to get to upset over this whole ordeal.

 

[Russ Smith]

For all we know Jackson may have said to Green, "OK fatman, I'm not going to practice. I've suddenly hurt my back". At that point Green could have just cut him and allowed Jackson to walk into another big payday and maybe come back to haunt us during the season. Maybe Green didn't want to take the chance of Jackson returning and just dogging it the rest of the season.

There is just too many "maybe's" to get to upset over this whole ordeal.

What about Dexter's career before this year leads to suspect the above may have happened?

That's what gets me here, did anybody hear a single bad word about the guy before Green arrived? Were he one of those players Mac babied, did nothing on the field, hell I'd be happy to see him go. But he wasn't, by all accounts he was a leader on the field and off last year, he was our best defender, and he worked hard.

I am just amazed how quickly so many people willingly accept that Dex either faked an injury, or was a cancer on the team and needed to go, I sure don't recall a single person complaining after last year that we needed to replace Dex.

 

[ajcardfan]

True, but I wonder, in this case if the injury did reoccur, couldn't Jackson claim the Cards are liable since it happened while he was here (assuming no other team signed him)?

I think it'll be interesting if he clears waivers and starts getting other teams physicals what it shows, if he's failing physicals he'll be filing a grievance for being cut while injured, if he's passing physicals, we'll know he's at least healthy enough for now.

Russ,

According to the Trib, he was released without a settlement. The ONLY way that can happen for a player on IR is for the player to waive his right to a settlement. Thus, he also has ceded any sort of greivance.

This was a mutual parting IMO. Jackson didn't want to be here, and we didn't try to keep him.

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ,

According to the Trib, he was released without a settlement. The ONLY way that can happen for a player on IR is for the player to waive his right to a settlement. Thus, he also has ceded any sort of greivance.

This was a mutual parting IMO. Jackson didn't want to be here, and we didn't try to keep him.

Oh I'm sure it was mutal NOW. Put yourself in his shoes the only way he can play this year if he's healthy is if we cut him.

What we don't know is if he wanted to be gone all along.

The story posted here said he'd reached a settlement, but no money, so I would say you're right that he waived any right to file a grievance later.

 

[ramfanjoe]

No team, including the redskins, need help at safety more than the rams. However, the rams are up against the cap, so I am left to dream "what if?"

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Not surprised.

 

[slanidrac16]

What about Dexter's career before this year leads to suspect the above may have happened?

That's what gets me here, did anybody hear a single bad word about the guy before Green arrived? Were he one of those players Mac babied, did nothing on the field, hell I'd be happy to see him go. But he wasn't, by all accounts he was a leader on the field and off last year, he was our best defender, and he worked hard.

I am just amazed how quickly so many people willingly accept that Dex either faked an injury, or was a cancer on the team and needed to go, I sure don't recall a single person complaining after last year that we needed to replace Dex.

My statement was made as a hypothetical situation to go along with all the other maybe's, could be's and why's. My whole point was that without knowing EVERYTHING we are all just speculating.
Look, I don't like to lose what appears to be solid players. On the other hand theres an old saying that it is better to cut a player a year to soon than a year to late. He is like every other player (except "Q") on this team last year. We were 4-12. Nobody was or is untouchable. Time to move on.