Diamondbacks get Livan Hernandez in trade

[devilalum]

Well shoot, anyone can be an innings-eater if you don't care about ERA. We shall see.

Untrue and you know it.

Inning eaters keep their pitch counts low and stay in command of their stuff.

 

[Stallion]

What is Hernandez known for?

1) Eating

Well, you got that part right.

I want to build a team capable of winning another championship, not win a weak division.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Well, you got that part right.

I want to build a team capable of winning another championship, not win a weak division.

Yeah the Pirates, Reds, Brewers, and Cubs fans have been saying that for years.....

If we do get into the post season thats more revenue which gives us - SURPRISE - more money to spend

Plus more importantly it gives our young guys (including Webb and Tracy) much needed experience with something on the line....

Its a cost/benefit that you guys are just not thinking about. Would i give up Upton, Carlos Gonzalez, Montero, Drew, Quentin, or Young for a mediocre innings eater? Uhh....hell no

Would i take a chance to win the division for pretty much any of our marginal pitching prospects....not a question.

Heres the national take i have been hearing from just about everybody. Just because you have been hearing about these guys doesn't mean they are that good....

• It's still possible to make a trade after the deadline, and the Diamondbacks took a worthwhile gamble on Livan Hernandez. Arizona's thin rotation was adding stress to its bullpen, particularly with ace Brandon Webb out. "With two ways to get in, we might as well go for it,'' Diamondbacks GM Josh Byrnes said.
With only the claiming team (Arizona) bidding, Nationals GM Jim Bowden did OK to peddle Hernandez for a pair of prospects, right-hander Garrett Mock and left-hander Matt Chico. One competing GM said, "We had Mock as No. 4 or 5 starter and Chico as a situational lefty.'' Not terrible.

 

[TucsonDevil]

When is Livan's 1st scheduled start?

 

[Nasser22]

I'm pretty sure it's the 2nd game of the next series with Webb finishing it off. That's what I heard.

 

[Stallion]

Yeah the Pirates, Reds, Brewers, and Cubs fans have been saying that for years.....

So if we don't make this trade we're the Pirates? That's a bit of a stretch.

My feeling is L. Hernandez is going to end up like O. Hernandez, Russ Ortiz and Albie Lopez, and Mock is going to end up like Capuano. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[The Commish]

So if we don't make this trade we're the Pirates? That's a bit of a stretch.

My feeling is L. Hernandez is going to end up like O. Hernandez, Russ Ortiz and Albie Lopez, and Mock is going to end up like Capuano. I hope I'm wrong.

Disagree. Livan is an innings eater, always has been. He has a world series MVP on his resume and is used to pitching in big games. It's a low risk/high reward situation. If he comes in a give us 7 innings with a 4.5 ERA we will have a good chance to win. It's the 5 inning starts by the back of our rotation that have been killing us, and more specifically our bullpen.

Chico may end up like Capuano, but has not even appeared at the major league level. Capuano had some good outings under his belt before we traded him. Like I said in a previous post, I wouldn't worry about giving up a couple prospects that AT BEST would be a number 4 or 5 starter.

 

[TucsonDevil]

What if... JUST, what if...

Livan becomes a horse in each outing, going 7-8 innings, giving up 1-2 runs. They we have what some would consider a World Series Contender for the National League! Two Horses, a decent third guy (Miggy) and good middle relief. Our bats are not bad at all - best in our division lately, IMO. Why can't we make a strong run? Need a Healthy Webb though.

That "What if" scenario is as plausible as Mock becoming a great pitcher or Chico becoming a #1 guy. As I said before, I am a "bird in the hand is better than two in the bush" kind of guy. We can win the division this year! - AND, if my 'what if' scenario happens, we would be meeting the Tigers/White Sox/Yankees in the WS... for a quick four games.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Bajenaru sent down to make room for Hernandez. Cant say I'll miss him.

http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com...t_id=1601861&vkey=news_ari&fext=.jsp&c_id=ari

 

[mesacardsfan]

Hope Livan steps up tonight!

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Juan Cruz has been removed from the rotation and will now work from the bullpen.

 

[boondockdrunk]

Juan Cruz has been removed from the rotation and will now work from the bullpen.

I can't say that I agree with this move (but then again, who really agrees with anything Melvin does). Besides one start, Cruz has been pretty solid even if he does not go many innings.

I would much rather have Vargas go to the pen or be designated for assignment.

 

[devilfan02]

I can't say that I agree with this move (but then again, who really agrees with anything Melvin does). Besides one start, Cruz has been pretty solid even if he does not go many innings.

I would much rather have Vargas go to the pen or be designated for assignment.

Agreed but you could see this coming from a mile away. Cruz has worked out of the pen before and Melvin will use that excuse. Vargas needs to step it up