Did Dallas do enough in the off-season to worry you?

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Now, to the guy claiming that Dirk can drop MoneyBalls on even Bruce Bowen. Yes, Dirk dominates 99% of players in this league. Admitting as much doesn't do much for your argument.

I forgot to retort this. Since you seemed to completely miss the point I was trying to make. Your stance was, as your name indicates, that dirk owns marion and marion specifically.

That is not true, marion does as great a job as any on defending dirk, and that is then obviously not a slight against marion.

A more proper claim or basis for your name would be Dirk is a great player, or dirk is a potent offensive weapon. Pointing marion out as the basis for dirks success is false and completely fails to make any point because it is not a specific case whatsoever.

Most of the league and people when you hear talk about the elite level of defensive players talk about bowen but not marion, and yet dirk has strengthened his game enough to score at will against bowen.

So, the only point of your name and claim would then have to be that you are attempting to troll and nobody likes a troll.

If I wanted to go to a mavs forum and be taken seriously I wouldn't use a name like Nash2xMVP_Dirk2xCHOKER because it is obvious what I am trying to instigate with that.

On days we are against certain teams it is gauranteed that some 13 or younger year old team homer comes into the suns chat with Suns_suck or OpposingTeamsPlayerName_owns_Sunsplayer or Sunsplayer_sucks OpposingTeamsPlayerName_rules etc type names and I find them the epitomy of NOT witty.
 

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1. Amare v. 1.0 is gone. He's not coming back. The Suns are now saddled with his mega-superstar contract and no mega-superstar to go with it. He's lost more than a step and plays great for 10 of his 24 minutes per night. Damp, Diop, and Benga will have little problems containing Amare v. 2.0 with 18 fouls.

Looks like someone doesn't understand the concept that microfracture surgery takes at least 18 months to fully recover.

Since getting back into the groove of things (11/8 vs Spurs) Amare has been averaging 18.2 points on 65% from the field and 9.6 boards per contest (according to you, he's putting up the majority of those numbers in the 10 of his 24 minutes per night. WOW!). The fact that he's had the flu for more than a week doesn't help, but he's still been showing flashes of brilliance, as evidenced by his 25 point, 10 rebound, 7 block night against the Nets. He's doing this 13 months after microfracture. That is truly amazing. Imagine how well he'll be playing once he hits the 18 month mark, when his knee and confidence will be even stronger.

So why'd he get a mega-superstar contract? Because this guy is a mega-superstar. He will make the all-star game this year, and he will be the reason why, should they meet, the Suns will run over the Mavs in the playoffs.

So keep your nay-saying. Keep doubting him. He's going to prove you wrong.
 
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Healthy Amare > Dirk
Nash > Terry
Marion > Howard
Diaw > Dampier
Bell > Stackhouse
Barbosa > Harris
Thomas > Diop
Rose > George

At that point you might have a point arguing Banks, Jones and Johnson, Croshere.

case closed.
Well, all this is based on your opinion. I can make counter arguments to the contrary in almost every case. The players you're comparing each have strentghs and weaknesses in different areas.
 

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The mavs are a good team, but Mavs fans just like Suns do know their teams weakness. Two years ago Amare killed the Mavs in the playoffs. Last year Boris did alot of damage inside. The Mavs have no guy on their team that can match up to either. Damp and Diop are too slow, Dirk isn't a good defender and Avery Johnson will not risk the foul trouble, Josh Howard et al are too small. Its a huge advantage for the Suns. I fail to see where in the match-ups the Mavs have a significant advantage. Maybe Josh Howard.
 
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Sure, I am sure everyone would enjoy the good laught out of it.

Yeah but please let me swallow my food before the Ranger tells me how Jason Terry is better than the MVP, and how Diop/Dampier, who Yao rung up for 34 points, is better than KT/Diaw.
 
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Yeah but please let me swallow my food before the Ranger tells me how Jason Terry is better than the MVP, and how Diop/Dampier, who Yao rung up for 34 points, is better than KT/Diaw.
I suppose you haven't been watching what they've been getting out of the center position since going on the 11 game win streak. Dampier is one of the big reasons for their success. Yes, Eric Dampier! He's been getting double doubles on a regular basis, and along with Diop has given them decent production from the 5 position. Damp's biggest problem has been catching the ball, but he's been doing a much better job this season. Yao's 35 points was during the horrible 0-4 start, but Yao is capable of doing that to anyone on any night.

Like I said before Terry is not a great defender, but is much better defensively than Nash. Then again who isn't? Nash is a better fit for the Sun's scheme, and Terry/Harris for the Mavs scheme. Actually Harris has been the starting point guard most of the season with Terry at the 2.
 

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I will say this much, Dallas is on a freaking role right now. There's talking trash and then there's just outright stupidity. That team looks VERY GOOD right now and they are deep, blowing the doors off everyone and anyone they're playing. The thing that makes me happy though is that the Suns are almost just as hot winning 8 of 9 and we still look like crap. That means we still likely have a way to go before we are good and if we can rattle that type of streak off when we're not, well, that's pretty scary.
 

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I will say this much, Dallas is on a freaking role right now. There's talking trash and then there's just outright stupidity. That team looks VERY GOOD right now and they are deep, blowing the doors off everyone and anyone they're playing. The thing that makes me happy though is that the Suns are almost just as hot winning 8 of 9 and we still look like crap. That means we still likely have a way to go before we are good and if we can rattle that type of streak off when we're not, well, that's pretty scary.

Cheese and I don't agree often, but this is pretty much spot on.
 

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I suppose you haven't been watching what they've been getting out of the center position since going on the 11 game win streak. Dampier is one of the big reasons for their success. Yes, Eric Dampier! He's been getting double doubles on a regular basis, and along with Diop has given them decent production from the 5 position. Damp's biggest problem has been catching the ball, but he's been doing a much better job this season. Yao's 35 points was during the horrible 0-4 start, but Yao is capable of doing that to anyone on any night.

Like I said before Terry is not a great defender, but is much better defensively than Nash. Then again who isn't? Nash is a better fit for the Sun's scheme, and Terry/Harris for the Mavs scheme. Actually Harris has been the starting point guard most of the season with Terry at the 2.

I have actually watched the Mavs, they are playing very well. Yao has a natural matchup advantage against Diop/Dampier, he will mostly score alot as he's bigger and longer and just as quick as those guys. Big stud centers like Duncan,Yao, Dwight Howard will always do well against the Mavs. The rest of the Mavs team must pick up the slack when playing elite centers. Diop and Dampier get their numbers mostly because their defender is used in the double team strategy. And sorry to disagree, but Jason Terry at the '2' is a much worse defender than Nash at the point. Fundamentally, Jason Terry does not know how to defend, AND he's too small to guard the '2' OR the point. 9mil per for a guy who cant defend and cant pass. Did I say the Mavs are a very good team inspite of all he above? And to think they had Raja and gave him up for nothing!
 

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They sure are getting their arses handed to them tonight. Down 30 to the Wizards in the 3rd.
 

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The only thing that scares me about Dallas is freaking Dirk. That guy when he is on, is so freaking on. I don't care who they add, that team revolves around Dirk. How many times have you seen that guy just rise up and shoot over whoever is guarding him? It makes me sick. I think the Suns match up well at every other spot.
 
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I suppose you haven't been watching what they've been getting out of the center position since going on the 11 game win streak. Dampier is one of the big reasons for their success. Yes, Eric Dampier! He's been getting double doubles on a regular basis, and along with Diop has given them decent production from the 5 position. Damp's biggest problem has been catching the ball, but he's been doing a much better job this season. Yao's 35 points was during the horrible 0-4 start, but Yao is capable of doing that to anyone on any night.

Like I said before Terry is not a great defender, but is much better defensively than Nash. Then again who isn't? Nash is a better fit for the Sun's scheme, and Terry/Harris for the Mavs scheme. Actually Harris has been the starting point guard most of the season with Terry at the 2.


Have you ever watched the Suns play the Mavs? It's happened a few times over the last few years, and If I remember correctly, Dampier rarely plays. I highly doubt this would change, although I am sure Amare would enjoy posterizing him.
 

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