Did Q save our franchise? :)

[Southpaw]

and your reasoning is? We're a little anal this morning aren't we?

Just brief and direct. Simple question, simple answer. Anal would be a diatribe.

4 wins does not mean a franchise is saved. Haven't seen him walk on water yet.

 

[cardsunsfan]

I don't think Boldin was a factor in the selection of Green at all.
It couldn't hurt to know Boldin was there, but put yourself in Denny's shoes:

You want to get back into coaching football. You consider yourself a "turnaround specialist" and you check out all the teams.

Which type of team is easiest to turn around?

- An old team that's getting older?

- A team with zero talent on its offensive line?

- A team with sucky running backs?

- A team with a dead-assed receiving corps.

- A young team with a promising QB going into his 3rd year, that has a solid O-line, a couple of productive RB's, a rookie of the year wideout and some high draft picks on its D-line - but appears to have been coached badly & simply hasn't played anywhere near its potential

(Aha!)

Exactly what I was thinking! Plus without Boldin maybe McCown doesn't win a few games. Although coaches are often good at seeing potential in players showing that they can at least win goes a long way. I don't think Green likes to pick Franchise QB's #1. Rod Graves might have told him we're going to if McCown hadn't won those few games. Remember Rod Graves was very nervous about McCown. Would have Green taken over the team knowing he might be forced to take a QB with the first pick and not having any standout receivers? I'm not sure about that...

 

[cardsunsfan]

The fact that Boldin was here had nothing to do with Denny taking the job. He wanted to get back into coaching and the money was right. He also felt that he could get along with Graves and that the ownership wouldn't interfere with his coaching as some owners call all the shots (like Al Davis).
Finally, he felt there is a decent core of players to build on and certainly Boldin is one of them.

He might not have agreed that we had a decent core without the emergance of McCown and Q....

 

[Southpaw]

The huge NO looked pretty anal to me! He could have just said "no" and given an explanation...

I could have, but I didn't.

When did the Goose stepping theme start?

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

I don't think Boldin was a factor in the selection of Green at all.

I'd say the writing on the wall started to become evident about game 11 with the massacre in Cleveland. It became evident that Mac just wasn't getting it done and was given his walking papers.

SOMEONE had to be hired, Green and Fassel headed the list. They chose Green. I seriously doubt Boldin was the determining factor why Green chose here.

PS...I guess we know now how you'd score on a Rohrshach test.

Completly agree. I will take it on step further and say he wasnt a factor at all. I believe Green looked at the overall talent yes, but not Boldin.

And NO He hasnt SAVED anything!

 

[cardsunsfan]

You Don't Say

I swore I put a smilie face at the end of that oh well

 

[Skkorpion]

Thinking that way, maybe you could say Jerry Sullivan saved us...


He is THE reason we took him...

Your info is incorrect, in my opinion. I've read that claim before but I don't think it's accurate. The assistant coaches have some input into player selection but they are not in the draft room on draft day.

Steve Kiem is THE reason we took Q.

Steve Kiem is the brains behind most of our good draft picks the last few years and that's why he's been elevated to supervising the eastern region for the Cards.

 

[Southpaw]

no

Do you like this one better?

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

no

Do you like this one better?

NO

 

[cardsunsfan]

no

Do you like this one better?

I guess so

 

[Southpaw]

I guess so

THAT

was

FUNNY

 

[Loyal Card 17]

one person will never be the savior of a football team. it takes a whole team to win football games. that starts from the owner on down. bidwill seems to be changing his ways. that is great. last year showed a some promise. if the cardinals could have avioded so many turnovers, then the cardinals would have won another 5-6 games. that all in the past now and that where it belongs. remeber you win as a team and you lose as a team. it not just one person.

 

[vikesfan]

Your info is incorrect, in my opinion. I've read that claim before but I don't think it's accurate. The assistant coaches have some input into player selection but they are not in the draft room on draft day.

Steve Kiem is THE reason we took Q.

Steve Kiem is the brains behind most of our good draft picks the last few years and that's why he's been elevated to supervising the eastern region for the Cards.

So who is responsible for all the bad picks?

 

[Skkorpion]

So who is responsible for all the bad picks?

Vince Tobin, Bob Ferguson, Dave McGinnis and Rod Graves. But in their defense, the scouts they all relied on were Ferguson's scouts with some Bidwill favorites mixed in.

The scouting department was gutted and reorganized this last spring. And now Denny Green brings his evaluation talents to the fray.