Do Fans think Gannon is a Joke?

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If you are going to be negative because of previous history, then you aren't really offering anything to the conversation.

There is actually a way to not be pessimistic and not getting too high or optimistic at the same time.

But its people act like these are the only two options they have.

Or they want to be proven right and they think it is more likely the Cardinals will fail.


Why You Should be AT LEAST Neutral-Positive This Upcoming Season:

- We won our last 2 home games. People might have to separate that from Kyler "always struggling at the end of the year."

- The Rams gm could of went alot different if Conner didn't get hurt...a team that scored only 23 pts in 2 gms vs our def WITHOUT A PASS RUSH.
Unless you think their defense is so dominant that holding us to 9 points makes sense after they gave up 42. They took PHI down to the wire
in the playoffs but they aren't that good.

-What does the offensive performance vs the Panthers without Conner in the 2nd half say about Kyler Murray's struggles?
That game should be put on the defense. 36 pts allowed to CAR is unacceptable. By the way, that lost to CAR was the ONLY loss
we had to a team that didn't make the playoffs. That is significant.

-We managed to be the 15th overall defense last year in points allowed and around 16th in sacks. WITHOUT A PASS RUSH.

-CBs always look better when you get a pass rush and we have a solid dline rotation for any down and distance.

This is not a defense of Kyler Murray. If we don't win a playoff game this year, the fanbase and media will tilt front office into making serious changes.

This is a defense of an average team lacking talent in a key area that pretty much filled their biggest need by taking Nolen tonight.

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The thing with this video is he will likely specialize in pass rush on 3rd down. And there is no way Gannon and Monti take someone this high
if they think they have character issues.

SO...

People want to compare last year to 2021 collapse. Thats fine. I will take 10 wins this year with a 3-3 division record and we can even blow a game to
IND or someone.The difference we only be seen with how we play in the playoffs. Not whether or not we perform badly at the end of the regular season
again. I trust our coach and the moves our GM has made and will continue to make. I trust that for maybe only the 2nd time in his career,
Kyler has a top 10 defense. Something that "star qbs" in this league like Mahomes and Allen get handed to them every year. And if I am wrong,
then obv there is an issue with Kyler that can't be solved, but people acting like they know the future already are insane.
Stop basing your opinion on previous history and try to look objectively as if this was not your team.Things are going forward in the right direction
towards a playoff year for us. If you can't see that, you are blinded by "Cardinals of the past." We have a 10 win team and it might be more.
Saying that is not insane. It is barely being optimistic.

4 wins to 8 wins to ?

How do you add talent on a 14th ranked defense and suddenly get worse?

How does the offense get worse when Harrison has more experience and said the first part of the season was overly fast and sped up?
It is not worth being negative because you fear injuries either. If that happens, there is nothing we can do about it. But this team is in
contention with LAR for the division. The NFC West has never been won by the worst defense. This year, LAR, AZ and SEA are going to
likely improve from the top 15 defenses. SF was 28th, they aren't going to make a drastic improvement after losing all that talent in FA.
SEA needs a lot to go right, but contending for a playoff spot is not out of the question. I just think they will be fighting for the WC if
they do perform well. That leads the Rams, an offense that struggled vs our defense in two games last season and needed some luck
to avoid a sweep.

You can make the case someone else is a fav to win the division. But is not SF. And our chances are very high.

I think our minimum expectations at this point should be a playoff win leading to a second round exit.

Wheras, our ceiling is the NFC championship game.

We have coaches that were a huge part of a team that went to the Superbowl. I expect success in the playoffs.

You should too. Have some hope, its free. And you don't need to act some crazy bandwagoner to have it.

There are literally good reasons to be hopeful.

Also we went 0-6 two years ago in the division and then 3-3. Isn't 4-2 possible? I am not predicting it but it is.

And if we go 4-2, 11 wins is very attainable. Personally I am sticking with 10-7.

Last year I was hoping for 9 and got 8. According to NFL deep analytics, we should of won 9 games last year btw.

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Mathematically, we underperformed our expectation. Same thing happened with Bears btw.

Take our SRS number and it has us ranked 12th in the league overall.

This is taken from the last day of the season before FA.

HOW CAN YOU NOT BE HOPEFUL?

 
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ppg NFC West pre-FA:

Offense Defense
AZ 12th SEA 11th
SF 13th AZ 15th
SEA 18th LAR 17th
LAR 20th SF 28th


(conservative) ppg Post-FA Projection:

Offense Defense
AZ 11th SEA 10th
SF 13th AZ 11th
SEA 16th LAR 12th
LAR 18th SF 20th

Btw, if AZ offense scored 12 more pts vs SEA, we would have allowed less pts on defense overall for the year.
 
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Rich Gannon was a stud!

Jonathon Gannon...IMO...is a fantastic coach. I dont want to JINX the man but I see the potential for him to end his career as one of the all time greats.
Not saying he is going to win 10 super bowls or anything. But he is a coach that gets the most out of his players, and combines that leadership with innovative schemes to help his players be successful.
Coaches like that motivate players to be better than they are and given the right opportunities cannot help but be successful.
His biggest hurdle is that he took the first job offer...which I understand because you gotta strike when the iron is hot. But had he stayed with Philly until this year...when they actually won the super bowl...he probably would have landed in a better situation for a first job.
But if the guy succeeds here he will be a legend.
It really says something about the guy that he can run around every day looking like Pee Wee Herman and still command respect around the league.
I have a ton of faith in JG...in Mike Bidwill?? Not so much.......
 
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Rich Gannon was a stud!

Jonathon Gannon...IMO...is a fantastic coach. I dont want to JINX the man but I see the potential for him to end his career as one of the all time greats.
Not saying he is going to win 10 super bowls or anything. But he is a coach that gets the most out of his players, and combines that leadership with innovative schemes to help his players be successful.
Coaches like that motivate players to be better than they are and given the right opportunities cannot help but be successful.
His biggest hurdle is that he took the first job offer...which I understand because you gotta strike when the iron is hot. But had he stayed with Philly until this year...when they actually won the super bowl...he probably would have landed in a better situation for a first job.
But if the guy succeeds here he will be a legend.
It really says something about the guy that he can run around every day looking like Pee Wee Herman and still command respect around the league.
I have a ton of faith in JG...in Mike Bidwill?? Not so much.......

Bidwill at least allowed us to spend and has actually added new things for the stadium this year. At the very least he hasn't gotten in the way.

I think he feels tied to Kyler and the money he spent on him. Which puts alot on the line for him this year.

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Yep. Basically hopping into his car after the first round with the knowledge he has another weapon like Nolen on the defense now.
You should see our 3rd round pick...He is a freak of nature at DE.

Had a fake punt run play designed for him and he took it 40 yards lol

Some fans think he could be better than Nolen.

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Only one guy here seems upset about this pick and he wanted an injured ILB.
People who know about the LB we got later on say he has alot of potential too.

I guess I was exaggerating. Other social media cardinals fans were complaining lol
 
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Appreciate the effort and hard work you put into this :thumbup:
I know I come across rash sometimes but objectively as someone who has watched football and used to be a fan of another team, it is hard not to see us moving in a really good direction at this point. I think I was more reacting to fans on youtube comments and twitter and expecting the same on here.

The biggest thing is even if we have the same flaws as last year on offense, we can at least mask them because of our defense.
 

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It'll be up to the quarterback..JG to me has been a pretty good coach..he'll protect his guys and they go to battle for him...good drafts...this draft was pretty boss.
 

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Honestly, if a fan dislikes Gannon’s approach, that’s why they’re just a fan. JG is the best find this team’s had in my forty years.
 
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