Doesn't Mike deserve an apology?

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I owe Mike an apology:

Im sorry you reached your ceiling with this team and are too stubborn to realize when youre being outsmarted.

 

[da_suns_fan]

QUICK STAT:

Amare's assist to turnover ratio is good enough for 56th............amongst power forwards:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/stati...=false&season=2009&seasontype=2&avg=48&pos=pf

Not good for a guy who's suppose to be making decisions in the post.

 

[BC867]

Actually, D'antoni owes Kerr and US, THE FANS, an apology for not hiring the assistant coach that helped the celtics win a championship.

D'Antoni hired Jay Humphries, a former Guard, to replace our Big Man coach. Terry Porter hired Bill Cartwright, a former Center.

D'Antoni tried to play Shaq 12 feet from the basket when he arrived.

We received something better than an apology. He left town. Apology accepted.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Digg has picked up the discussion too. First time ive seen the Suns on the front page.

http://digg.com/basketball/Knicks_coach_Mike_D_Antoni_rips_old_Phoenix_bosses_Marion

 

[O]

Well, geez, "O", I guess none of this really "matters". I mean, its just people who none of us personally know playing sports, right?

Mike was playing what positoin?

I mean, I guess this message board doesn't matter when you think about it. Its not like what anyone ever says on here ever affects your REAL life, right?

Ok, how is your real life affected? Do you have a gambling peoblem?

Or maybe it does matter to people who like to talk and argue about their favorite teams on a message boards for fun.

Revisitionist histoty, key word being history!

Maybe some people were sick of hearing the lame, cliche criticisms of D'Antoni.

He's done here. How hard is that to understand and get over?

He had major weaknesses, but the ones mindlessly spouted on this board and by many others have been proven to be unjust.

I could make uncounted political referrences here but I won't.
WHY?
Because I'm over it.

There is a lesson to be learned here.

Please pay attention!

 

[DeAnna]

Let me re-phrase it;
Who gives a crap?
It doesn't matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LoL, nobody is listening to you.

 

[Covert Rain]

To answer the thread question...HELL NO!. Nobody has to apologize for D'Antoni's ego, lack of bench playing time, lack of defensive priority or is inability to adjust in game.

All your D'Antoni Homers are belongs to us.

 

[cly2tw]

Nice try pal:



Claiming that a strategy might not work now but might work in the long run is quite different than claiming that Amare's post game has been "working" at all, let alone being one of our "best" plays last night and other nights.

I personally dont believe that Amare has the natural basketball IQ to be effective in the post at any point in his career. Mostly because HE DOESNT LIKE CONTACT. Also because its physically tougher than taking your man off the dribble and he's lazy.

But none of that matters since you seem to believe that he is effective at it NOW, which is (as I said earlier) the worst observation I have ever read from a fan in my life.

see Errknight's post for how to interpret POST first. even his 'back-to-the-basket LOW POST' moves are not as bad as you think they are.

again, watch the game before you judge Amare's game IQ.

 

[mojorizen7]

da suns fan is the biggest D'Antoni homer on this board. There's no reasoning with him because he hates the fact that D'Antoni wanted to be paid so much more by NY.

You sure?...........I'd give that trophy to Nowagimp.

 

[mojorizen7]

Nah, why should we when he made out like a $$bandit$$.

I understand his reasoning that he couldn't change course after 4 yrs to try to make this a defensive team (see Terry Porter) with the personnel he had.

Heard a snipped of his interview on the radio this evening. He said it's hard for him to watch any Suns game because he's still emotionally attached to those guys. He thinks it'll take him a while before he can watch objectively.

Change course?.........he was asked to put a defensive assistant on his staff! Not ditch the small ball philosophy......but i suppose that was just too much for Mike's ego to swallow.
Um....Kerr was D'Antoni's boss. Even if Kerr is an idiot that changes NOTHING, you do what you're asked and if it doesn't work you can blame your boss after the fact LOL.
The SUNS were consistently terrible defensively so the new GM decided to step in & make some suggestions to his "employee"......Mike got butthurt. It's no mystery folks.

 

[nashman]

Give me a break you were all Dantoni fans when they were reeling off avg. 58 wins a season! Mike D. shares some of the blame but so does stupid ass Kerr, Sarver, and even the players for not playing defense. While some of you think you can wave a magic defensive coach around and everything is fixed thats just not how it works. Mike was given a CRAPTASTIC bench almost his whole time here and players that are NOT GOOD defenders so he did what good coaches do worked to THE PLAYERS strengths which were offensive.

We all have seen Porter isn't exactly turning these guys into defensive juggernauts himself and has abandoned his and Kerrs gameplan and now going back to a running fast pace offense. Mike D. is still leaps and bounds better than Porter but it was time for him to go as him and Kerr were not going to work together well. No one owes anyone an apology though.

 

[mojorizen7]

D'Antoni plays 7 man rotations because he wants to. He's doing the same in NY. Look at the box scores.

 

[O]

LoL, nobody is listening to you.

Obiviously.

 

[mojorizen7]

I owe Mike an apology:

Im sorry you reached your ceiling with this team and are too stubborn to realize when youre being outsmarted.

 

[O]

Why not rename this thread;

"Do we owe Denny Green an apology?'

 

[Kablansky]

[Sarver]Mike's wife said he's eight seconds are less[/Sarver]

 

[da_suns_fan]

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Well, geez, "O", I guess none of this really "matters". I mean, its just people who none of us personally know playing sports, right?
Quote:
Mike was playing what positoin?
I mean, I guess this message board doesn't matter when you think about it. Its not like what anyone ever says on here ever affects your REAL life, right?
Quote:
Ok, how is your real life affected? Do you have a gambling peoblem?
Or maybe it does matter to people who like to talk and argue about their favorite teams on a message boards for fun.
Quote:
Revisitionist histoty, key word being history!
Maybe some people were sick of hearing the lame, cliche criticisms of D'Antoni.
Quote:
He's done here. How hard is that to understand and get over?
He had major weaknesses, but the ones mindlessly spouted on this board and by many others have been proven to be unjust.

Quote:
I could make uncounted political referrences here but I won't.
WHY?
Because I'm over it.

There is a lesson to be learned here.

Man...that went WAY over your head. I wasn't saying the Mike played a position, I was saying your anger that we are talking about this even though it "doesn't matter" is stupid since none of this really matters. You just dont get it. Re-read what I said and try again.

 

[Griffin]

D'Antoni plays 7 man rotations because he wants to. He's doing the same in NY. Look at the box scores.

They play eight guys when at full strength. Nate Robinson and Q-Rich missed some games recently.

Coincidentally, the Suns rotation this year has also been eight-deep, with Barbosa, Diaw and Barnes/Hill getting the majority of minutes off the bench. The other guys generally only make an appearance when one of our regulars is out for the game or during garbage time.

Now that we've traded two of our rotation players (Bell, Diaw) for one (J-Rich), it will be interesting to see what other player will get regular minutes. My guess is it will be whatever point guard we sign in the next two weeks, if we sign one.