Dolphin's writer perspective on Boldin

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Last year the best offer Arizona got for Boldin was a second-rounder on draft day from the Chicago Bears. No one's going to come calling with a proposal like this year. Teams don't waste first-day picks on players they can nab in free agency, and as a result the Cardinals will have to settle for Boldin's 2010 market value. A third and likely a fifth- or sixth-round pick should be enough to pry him away from the desert.
I don't know how he is confirming the 2nd round offer from the Bears? And they have a poll on that site where the majority wants to trade no more than a 3rd rounder. So like the writer states the offer may be a 3rd and a 5th.
 

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I don't know how he is confirming the 2nd round offer from the Bears? And they have a poll on that site where the majority wants to trade no more than a 3rd rounder. So like the writer states the offer may be a 3rd and a 5th.

The offer last year was also confirmed on Sommers' blog so it seems legit.
 

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Last year the best offer Arizona got for Boldin was a second-rounder on draft day from the Chicago Bears. No one's going to come calling with a proposal like this year. Teams don't waste first-day picks on players they can nab in free agency, and as a result the Cardinals will have to settle for Boldin's 2010 market value. A third and likely a fifth- or sixth-round pick should be enough to pry him away from the desert.

The Miami Dolphins need to be at the front of the bidding line.


Given that Boldin's "Free Agency" is a season away, this is a rather dubious point. And given where they select in the third round, the Dolphin's are hardly in position to be in front of the bidding line.

The market sets the market, not columnists who'd love the buy quality on the cheap.
 

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Last year the best offer Arizona got for Boldin was a second-rounder on draft day from the Chicago Bears. No one's going to come calling with a proposal like this year. Teams don't waste first-day picks on players they can nab in free agency, and as a result the Cardinals will have to settle for Boldin's 2010 market value. A third and likely a fifth- or sixth-round pick should be enough to pry him away from the desert.

The Miami Dolphins need to be at the front of the bidding line.

Given that Boldin's "Free Agency" is a season away, this is a rather dubious point. And given where they select in the third round, the Dolphin's are hardly in position to be in front of the bidding line.

The market sets the market, not columnists who'd love the buy quality on the cheap.

I would take a 3rd and Ginn. The Cards need a legit kick/punt returner
 

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The Miami Dolphins need to be at the front of the bidding line.

Given that Boldin's "Free Agency" is a season away, this is a rather dubious point. And given where they select in the third round, the Dolphin's are hardly in position to be in front of the bidding line.

The market sets the market, not columnists who'd love the buy quality on the cheap.
Sadly my guess is all we get is a 3rd and a 6th (MAYBE a 5th if we can get it instead like the article says). What he's saying isn't new. A lot of us have been saying that's what it will probably be since he didn't get traded last offseason.
 

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the article kind of contradicts itself. It says Boldin's value is a 3rd and a 5th but then goes on to talk how great a WR Boldin is and a WR of his caliber is a depserate need for the Dolphins. If that's the case, why hesitate to give up a 2nd, likely the Cards asking price? It's definietly writtne from a Miami point of view. In other words he's thinking Boldin is worth Turner and Nalbone.
 

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Keep in mind that with the labor situation in the NFL taking place next year this really is the best draft in the last couple decades. A 3rd rounder this year is like an early 2nd or late first last year IMO.
 

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Keep in mind that with the labor situation in the NFL taking place next year this really is the best draft in the last couple decades. A 3rd rounder this year is like an early 2nd or late first last year IMO.

Care to explain how the labor situation makes this draft any different from any other?
 

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I'd be more tempted to do a draft day trade along the lines of Boldin and our 3rd for Mia 2nd and 4th. We throw in the 3rd to give them value back. If that doesn't work I'd do Boldin for their 3rd and 6th and flip picks in the 2nd.
 

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Care to explain how the labor situation makes this draft any different from any other?

I think the assumption is that more underclassmen fill this draft class because they don't know if they will have the same opportunities in the NFL by waiting a year. Not sure that this assumption has any merit.
 

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I think the assumption is that more underclassmen fill this draft class because they don't know if they will have the same opportunities in the NFL by waiting a year. Not sure that this assumption has any merit.

He would have to show a hard # that proves that quite a few more underclassmen have entered this draft as compered to last year or the year before in order to prove that.
 

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He would have to show a hard # that proves that quite a few more underclassmen have entered this draft as compered to last year or the year before in order to prove that.

There are 53 underclassmen in this draft, tied for most ever. Up by 7 from last year.

That is a 13.3% increase.
 

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That number is actually smaller than expectations though. Most just aren't ready.
 

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I think the assumption is that more underclassmen fill this draft class because they don't know if they will have the same opportunities in the NFL by waiting a year. Not sure that this assumption has any merit.

Chris already answered this. Might be slightly more but not that much more and not any higher a percentage increase then normal IMO.

Everyone also needs to know that if there is a lockout in 2011 the draft will still occur. So dont rule out getting a draft pick this year and one for next year.
 

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Chris already answered this. Might be slightly more but not that much more and not any higher a percentage increase then normal IMO.

Everyone also needs to know that if there is a lockout in 2011 the draft will still occur. So dont rule out getting a draft pick this year and one for next year.

Right, but with there being murmurs of wanting to restructure the way rookies get paid, it is possible that fears of losing the big draft day pay check could have caused a few more underclassmen to declare. Obviously it wasn't a HUGE boost. I think this is one of the deeper classes ever but not because of the CBA issue. It just happens to be one of those years with lots of talent. If memory serves 2004 was like this as well.
 

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There are 53 underclassmen in this draft, tied for most ever. Up by 7 from last year.

That is a 13.3% increase.

Up by 7? I hardly think thats a number that makes a 3rd rounder so much more valuable and comparable to an early 2nd or late first. cardsfanmd is nuts by saying that or thinking it. JMO.
 
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Up by 7? I hardly think thats a number that makes a 3rd rounder so much more valuable and comparable to an early 2nd or late first. cardsfanmd is nuts by saying that or thinking it. JMO.

Statistically it is almost irrelevant. You could spread that over the draft and you are looking at 2-3 extra players in the first two rounds.
 

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With less free agent options,I feel like Boldin's value goes up, not down.

Who wants to be we end up getting a 2nd for him?
 

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Up by 7? I hardly think thats a number that makes a 3rd rounder so much more valuable and comparable to an early 2nd or late first. cardsfanmd is nuts by saying that or thinking it. JMO.

If you can't see the talent differential between this years' draft and that of any other in the last decade then.. nevermind, that doesn't surprise me at all considering the source:D. Aside from QBs and RBs this group is ridiculously nice, from top to bottom. :mulli:
 

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If you can't see the talent differential between this years' draft and that of any other in the last decade then.. nevermind, that doesn't surprise me at all considering the source:D. Aside from QBs and RBs this group is ridiculously nice, from top to bottom. :mulli:

Nice try my friend but that's not what you said in your initial post. You stated someting along the lines of "due to the labor issues" a 3rd rounder is equivolent to high a first rounder or early second rounder. You didn't say because of the talent level you specifically stated because of the labor issue.

Now I still think you insane to say a 3rd is as good as a high first in other years based on drafts overall talent level. It may have more talent bit that much more!
 

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Does the writer know that the first day, is only the first round? I would think that KC might be willing to offer one of their second round picks for Q.
 
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