Don’t Despair

[Shane]

Weird. I don’t remember us winning two playoff games and playing in the NFC Championship game.

Rams got lucky or we would have

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Rams got lucky or we would have

Lol. Give it two years and some ASFNers will actually believe that statement.

 

[Mainstreet]

Sadly if your not picking a player in the top 15 and sometimes even then, a team has to develop players.

This is why a team needs a flow of young players in the pipeline.

It's important to find talent in the draft and consistently develop it.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Oh, is that all? lol Yeah, it seems a tough row to hoe. And filling all those positions will barely get us back to the status quo of last season. Last season's status quo wasn't good enough.

The problem is that is not all if one watched how the team wore down at the end. This team needs depth to fill those holes too because injuries will occur. D-Hop, JJ Watt, Max Williams, Gardeck are all for the most part coming back from injuries. This team should at least be signing some quality depth right now and they are not. We do not need splash names as much as competent names, where a solid team at least gives us a chance... we have holes within our holes lol

 

[BritCard]

Weird. I don’t remember us winning two playoff games and playing in the NFC Championship game.

I do remember us finished above them in the division

 

[kerouac9]

I do remember us finished above them in the division

That’s probably more important than playoff success.

We should put up a playoff participant banner.

 

[BritCard]

That’s probably more important than playoff success.

We should put up a playoff participant banner.

Well yeah. When it comes to our own division nothing matters more than we beat them twice and finished above them.

 

[kerouac9]

Well yeah. When it comes to our own division nothing matters more than we beat them twice and finished above them.

Lol. Okay bro.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Well yeah. When it comes to our own division nothing matters more than we beat them twice and finished above them.

Lol, you're bragging on that to a team that one game away from the super bowl?
I'd love to see how that goes. Maybe you can tell them what a sick first half we had?

The amount of people who continue to point to a good start to the season as the reason we'll be good next year (completely ignoring how we finished the year/the current roster) is pretty crazy. It's like half the people didn't even see the 2nd half of the season.

 

[slanidrac16]

Well yeah. When it comes to our own division nothing matters more than we beat them twice and finished above them.

Hmm. No mention of the injuries the 49ers had when we played them, but we sucked when Hopkins went down.

 

[Shane]

Hmm. No mention of the injuries the 49ers had when we played them, but we sucked when Hopkins went down.

Ummm we were injured all across the team as well and had our starting QB out. No really not an excuse for them. Nice try though.

 

[Chopper0080]

I have a hard time taking you serious when you say this. Especially with your outright open criticism of Kyler regularly during the season. I don’t have the sense that you actually believe he’s “the guy“ capable and ready to get us to a SB anyway. Even with higher quality talent.

I think Kyler is talented but not close to maximizing it. That said, he is easily a top 15 QB, and that should get you at least a playoff win if you are maximizing your edge. I have long said that I feel Kyler needs more help than a #1 overall QB should but that you have to give it to him. I don't believe I have been inconsistent with this.

 

[Shane]

I think Kyler is talented but not close to maximizing it. That said, he is easily a top 15 QB, and that should get you at least a playoff win if you are maximizing your edge. I have long said that I feel Kyler needs more help than a #1 overall QB should but that you have to give it to him. I don't believe I have been inconsistent with this.

Do you today think that Kyler can take this team to a SB and win it? Do you think after what you’ve seen with his epic collapse and complete panic he displays on the field that he’s literally THAT GUY? His stats and occasional spectacular play aside I agree probably top 15 sure. But is he a champion?

 

[slanidrac16]

Ummm we were injured all across the team as well and had our starting QB out. No really not an excuse for them. Nice try though.

Ummm we were injured all across the team as well and had our starting QB out. No really not an excuse for them. Nice try though.

Nice try? Let’s stop all talk about injuries. You’re either good enough or not. You either have depth or you don’t.
If I recall correctly the 49ers were missing Debo and Kittle. I could be wrong.

 

[Shane]

Nice try? Let’s stop all talk about injuries. You’re either good enough or not. You either have depth or you don’t.
If I recall correctly the 49ers were missing Debo and Kittle. I could be wrong.

And who the Cardinals missing that day? Do tell…

 

[Dayman]

Do you today think that Kyler can take this team to a SB and win it? Do you think after what you’ve seen with his epic collapse and complete panic he displays on the field that he’s literally THAT GUY? His stats and occasional spectacular play aside I agree probably top 15 sure. But is he a champion?

I think that is what most of us are trying to figure out. He isn't a champion now, obviously. The collapses can't be ignored. But I also don't think the organization is built to succeed nearly as much as it needs to be. Murray ain't Brady by any stretch, but the second tier coaches and revolving door roster certainly aren't helping matters.

 

[slanidrac16]

And who the Cardinals missing that day? Do tell…

You tell me. I get tired of hearing “ we lost Hopkins” and that was it. It wasn’t like we were playing with 10 players. It was colossal failure from the coaching staff to tge 53rd man on the roster.
Btw, who made it to the NFC Championship in spite of injuries?

 

[Shane]

You tell me. I get tired of hearing “ we lost Hopkins” and that was it. It wasn’t like we were playing with 10 players. It was colossal failure from the coaching staff to tge 53rd man on the roster.
Btw, who made it to the NFC Championship in spite of injuries?

I’m pretty sure this team was without Kyler, Hopkins, Hudson, Watt and was rotating their players on the OL. Yet still went on the road and beat SF by two TDs. I’m pretty sure those losses trump Deebo and Kittle but that’s just me.

 

[oaken1]

Do you today think that Kyler can take this team to a SB and win it? Do you think after what you’ve seen with his epic collapse and complete panic he displays on the field that he’s literally THAT GUY? His stats and occasional spectacular play aside I agree probably top 15 sure. But is he a champion?

Not yet.
But Champions are made. Not born.

Matt Stafford wasn't a champion. Didn't win in the playoffs. Until he did.

Peyton Manning...quite possibly the most complete quarterback of all time choked in the playoffs. Until he didn't.

I believe kyler Murray is a competitor and if he has any self awareness or strength of character at all he is embarrassed by his performance in the playoffs.
For any competitor the greatest challenge they face is the man in the mirror. They either lose to him, defeat him, or make peace with him.

For Kyler, imo he needs to accept that while the people in his camp have done a great job in getting him to this point,... in order to advance as a player he has to thank them and move on.

 

[Shane]

Not yet.
But Champions are made. Not born.

Matt Stafford wasn't a champion. Didn't win in the playoffs. Until he did.

Peyton Manning...quite possibly the most complete quarterback of all time choked in the playoffs. Until he didn't.

I believe kyler Murray is a competitor and if he has any self awareness or strength of character at all he is embarrassed by his performance in the playoffs.
For any competitor the greatest challenge they face is the man in the mirror. They either lose to him, defeat him, or make peace with him.

For Kyler, imo he needs to accept that while the people in his camp have done a great job in getting him to this point,... in order to advance as a player he has to thank them and move on.

That’s fair

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Lol. Okay bro.

Maybe that’s a European sports perspective?

 

[don7031]

The Cardinals went all in last year. Now they are on a five year plan.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Do you today think that Kyler can take this team to a SB and win it? Do you think after what you’ve seen with his epic collapse and complete panic he displays on the field that he’s literally THAT GUY? His stats and occasional spectacular play aside I agree probably top 15 sure. But is he a champion?

I have my doubts, but I still believe with the right mentor/tutor/coach and supporting cast he could become a championship QB. Right now, with his mentality? No.

 

[DVontel]

I don’t think under this current infrastructure & regime, Kyler can lead this organization to a SB.

I think there are too many holes & negative aspects of the organization for that to happen.

 

[DaHilg]

I think Kyler is talented but not close to maximizing it. That said, he is easily a top 15 QB, and that should get you at least a playoff win if you are maximizing your edge. I have long said that I feel Kyler needs more help than a #1 overall QB should but that you have to give it to him. I don't believe I have been inconsistent with this.

Name a top viewed Young QB having success w less help.. certainly not any of these guys;

Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Dak, (Heck even T-Law is getting A LOT more help this year).