Don't We Already Know The Answers?

[Buckybird]

OK---here's some speculation as to what Keim and CKW were thinking this off-season:

1. Levi Brown did play a good last half of the season at LT---and they somehow managed to get Brown to go in on a hometown discount deal.

2. They figured that Jeremy Bridges could start at RT if need be.

3. They signed Adam Snyder to play RG but also knew he could play RT if necessary.

4. They drafted two tackles and a guard in rounds 4,5 and 7, with the intention of grooming them for a year or two down the road.

So, if this was the mindset then yes I would say Keim was right in the middle of the decision making.

Totally makes sense.

Here's my problem Mitch...we've drafted 2 OTs (Massey & Levi) from predominately running college programs into a passing league & a team that passes. Am I wrong for thinking we're trying to put squares pegs into a round hole with this thought?

For this reason, I believe Potter will be the best OT we have in pass pro in time.

Unless this team decides its going to change to a running team, we are gonna have to fire & eat these contracts IMO. I know it's not the Cardinal way, but they should...Snyder gone...Batiste gone.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think Graves is a figurehead at this point. It's Steve Keim's show right now---and who knows if he has the cajones or the sense of urgency to make the necessary changes.

But---as with Whisenhunt last night---terrible preparation and even worse in-game decisions. Like being down 10-0 and punting from the 49ers' 37 yard line late in the second quarter---rather try to go for it---or try a 55 yard field goal---which we know is in Feely's range---a score at that point in the game fires the crowd up and it would have prevented the 49ers from taking the touchback and driving 80 yards to go up 17-0.

I'm thinking K9 is right that Whiz has lost confidence in Feely. Otherwise that made no sense to me either. Unless he's somehow hurt and we don't know it that's within his range and it didn't seem like we even considered it.

Then Feely nearly missed the chippie so maybe Whiz is on to something.

 

[Mitch]

I'm thinking K9 is right that Whiz has lost confidence in Feely. Otherwise that made no sense to me either. Unless he's somehow hurt and we don't know it that's within his range and it didn't seem like we even considered it.

Then Feely nearly missed the chippie so maybe Whiz is on to something.

Here's my theory, Russ.

With CKW---he punts because he's peed at the QB---and he's now peed at Feely for whatever reason---probably blames him for the Bills' loss. Didn't they bring in Josh Brown during thew week?

But either way QB or ---the message he sends to his offense and QB (your'e not good enough to convert the 4th down in 49ers' territory) and to his kicker (the 61 yarder was a fluke)---just go to show how little confidence he puts in his players.

THAT was the imo the KEY decision of the game---

Instead of trying to score toward the end of the half to make it a one possession game and get the GREAT FANS screaming their arses off---CKW punts the ball---it goes as a touchback---and Alex Smith and Frank Gore march the team down 80 yards to make it 17-0...which at that point conjured up the voice of Dandy Dom Meredith: "Turn out the lights...the party's over."

CKW gets peed at his QBs and yet time and time again he puts them in harm's way with his shoddy designs---and then he makes his point by giving them the hook. And now its Feely too. We might not score again this year at that rate.

And let me add this---in his press conference CKW's consistent refrain was: "We didn't make tackles."

 

[kerouac9]

OK---here's some speculation as to what Keim and CKW were thinking this off-season:

1. Levi Brown did play a good last half of the season at LT---and they somehow managed to get Brown to go in on a hometown discount deal.

2. They figured that Jeremy Bridges could start at RT if need be.

3. They signed Adam Snyder to play RG but also knew he could play RT if necessary.

4. They drafted two tackles and a guard in rounds 4,5 and 7, with the intention of grooming them for a year or two down the road.

So, if this was the mindset then yes I would say Keim was right in the middle of the decision making.

Is this in some way not necessary at this point? I originally thought that we'd brought Adam Snyder in to play RT, too. Now, it seems to me like the Cards thought that Snyder was a legitimate upgrade over Rex Hadnot at RG. That opinion seems to be mistaken.

 

[Catfish]

Ah, my friend, I see you are safe. Good!!! You also have time on your hands again, and in Mitch fashion, have used it creatively. Good stuff, especially the ride on the carousel. Another painted pony for us to ride, up and down and round and round. Once again, you have captured the true situation in beautiful prose, put it into perspective, and played it out for us to see.

Once again, you are so very right that my heart is heavy from holding on to the belief that the futility will finally end, and that this team we choose to love will somehow morph into the team we have always envisioned. Once again, the likelihood is that we will yet again, see more of the same.

Whisenhunt brought us change and hope. He made the roster better, but alas not the coaching staff. Yes, we had some glory, riding the Warner pony. We had new hope, and even lofty visions of a Lombardi trophy. But behind it all, was still the same old organization, trying to steal yet another trophy from the Pottsville Maroons. Paying enough of a price to make us look legit, (maybe even good), but grudgingly holding on to the reality that as an organization, it was more satisfying to defraud the fan base into believing that THIS team was for real. Spending just enough to get the long sought after new stadium, and the new revenue streams, (all the while teasing the fan base with the idea that things have finally changed).

Sadly, things HAVE changed. Previously, this organization simply left cities with broken hearts when they left behind the loyal fans who fed it. This time is different. This time, they have nearly managed to ruin an entire community, taking the City of Glendale to its very ruin. This time, they have duped an entire city into buying into the false pretense that is the Cardinal's way, and have seemingly made it appear that they would provide a solid base upon which that City could build, and build, even providing the belief that this false base could allow the City to expand into Hockey and an adjoining arena with businesses and offices to compliment, (and enrich), the pockets of the Cardinal's franchise.

Once again, the organization has bumbled its way into managing to be on the verge of throwing it ALL away. Once again, the same old ineptitude has managed to find a way to be on the verge of squandering all the good faith and love of the fan base in order to perpetuate the same old bumbling frugality and misplaced loyalty to Cardinal Family that ultimately leads to wearing out their welcome in yet another City.

If, indeed change is truly sought by this organization, then it MUST purge itself of the ineptitude that drives it. Somehow this organization must find a way to divest itself of the same Front Office that has caused it to leave what would now be (three) cities filled with hatred of the organizational failures.

Unless this changes, (and changes soon), the Big Red will soon be playing to an empty U of P stadium, with yet another team sporting a losing record and a squandered fan base. Money is tight, not just with the Bidwill's pockets, but for the entire Nation. Losing, for this team is not an option that can be sustained with this fan base. Westgate has already been eroded to a nearly bare skeleton of what it was, and the Cardinals are once again well on their way to leaving behind what would be the ultimate debacle, (an empty shell that was once a vibrant stadium), to join the empty and abandoned race track on West I-10, and what appears to be a hopelessly mired Hockey Arena in Westgate.

It is time for the Bidwill family to hire a 'genuinely knowledgeable' football person to run this organization, and clean out the decades of failed policies that have left broken hearts in Chicago, and St. Louis, (and now Glendale), if real change is not made, and made soon. The Whisenhunt honeymoon is over, and his continued efforts to bring about change, (while doing the same old things over and over) cannot be allowed to continue. He will not stumble onto another Kurt Warner to save his system, (at least not in this lifetime). He has shown no propensity to change his offense, or its coaches. The truth is, that no team can win, (when its offense can only muster 10 points per game). No defense can overcome that, AND moreover, no fan base will continue to pay in order to see more of it.

 

[conraddobler]

It starts with not having a GM, it's always been that way.

Rod Graves is probably fine as an assistant GM, in charge of contracts etc but in terms of building an organization? Not in my book.

It's the vision of how to build a team that's wrong, Whiz in terms of an offensive coordinator even a HC is fine with someone above him to knock on his door when he does something stupid which IMO he does a lot.

He's got the correct makeup in many respects but he's not capable of handling the amount of power he has, he needs a very strong GM on top of him to tell him in no uncertain terms it's you or Russ, make your choice by end of business today.

The GM sees into the future, holds people accountable, cultivates scouts, prunes the organization of people who fail, this team does NOT operate with ANY semblance of accountability and it's long term planning is LAUGHABLE, TERRIBLE, KEYSTONE COPS worthy.

Personally I'd march into Whiz's office today and say these people need to go, here's the list, I understand if you don't want to do it that's fine, then you're fired too.

Whiz can take back over the play calling then hire Romeo in the offseason after he gets fired as the Chiefs HC, he's a great DC, he stinks as a HC IMO.

Then we never have to worry about getting a new OC or DC, the main hire we need is a QB guru and an Oline guru outside of what those two bring to the table.

Start drafting for the future as Mitch said, start with the Oline, blow the whole damn thing up again but ONLY if someone lands in this organization that can BUY A CLUE on drafting offensive linemen. I don't think there is ONE PERSON in the whole organization that would know a good offensive linemen if they had one sit in their yard for two weeks.

 

[conraddobler]

Here's my theory, Russ.

With CKW---he punts because he's peed at the QB---and he's now peed at Feely for whatever reason---probably blames him for the Bills' loss. Didn't they bring in Josh Brown during thew week?

But either way QB or ---the message he sends to his offense and QB (your'e not good enough to convert the 4th down in 49ers' territory) and to his kicker (the 61 yarder was a fluke)---just go to show how little confidence he puts in his players.

THAT was the imo the KEY decision of the game---

Instead of trying to score toward the end of the half to make it a one possession game and get the GREAT FANS screaming their arses off---CKW punts the ball---it goes as a touchback---and Alex Smith and Frank Gore march the team down 80 yards to make it 17-0...which at that point conjured up the voice of Dandy Dom Meredith: "Turn out the lights...the party's over."

CKW gets peed at his QBs and yet time and time again he puts them in harm's way with his shoddy designs---and then he makes his point by giving them the hook. And now its Feely too. We might not score again this year at that rate.

And let me add this---in his press conference CKW's consistent refrain was: "We didn't make tackles."

Isn't Powell still in the CKW doghouse or is he hurt too?

I saw him a play or two when Hyphen wasn't getting mauled 3 yards deep every running play.

 

[Mitch]

Ah, my friend, I see you are safe. Good!!! You also have time on your hands again, and in Mitch fashion, have used it creatively. Good stuff, especially the ride on the carousel. Another painted pony for us to ride, up and down and round and round. Once again, you have captured the true situation in beautiful prose, put it into perspective, and played it out for us to see.

Once again, you are so very right that my heart is heavy from holding on to the belief that the futility will finally end, and that this team we choose to love will somehow morph into the team we have always envisioned. Once again, the likelihood is that we will yet again, see more of the same.

Whisenhunt brought us change and hope. He made the roster better, but alas not the coaching staff. Yes, we had some glory, riding the Warner pony. We had new hope, and even lofty visions of a Lombardi trophy. But behind it all, was still the same old organization, trying to steal yet another trophy from the Pottsville Maroons. Paying enough of a price to make us look legit, (maybe even good), but grudgingly holding on to the reality that as an organization, it was more satisfying to defraud the fan base into believing that THIS team was for real. Spending just enough to get the long sought after new stadium, and the new revenue streams, (all the while teasing the fan base with the idea that things have finally changed).

Sadly, things HAVE changed. Previously, this organization simply left cities with broken hearts when they left behind the loyal fans who fed it. This time is different. This time, they have nearly managed to ruin an entire community, taking the City of Glendale to its very ruin. This time, they have duped an entire city into buying into the false pretense that is the Cardinal's way, and have seemingly made it appear that they would provide a solid base upon which that City could build, and build, even providing the belief that this false base could allow the City to expand into Hockey and an adjoining arena with businesses and offices to compliment, (and enrich), the pockets of the Cardinal's franchise.

Once again, the organization has bumbled its way into managing to be on the verge of throwing it ALL away. Once again, the same old ineptitude has managed to find a way to be on the verge of squandering all the good faith and love of the fan base in order to perpetuate the same old bumbling frugality and misplaced loyalty to Cardinal Family that ultimately leads to wearing out their welcome in yet another City.

If, indeed change is truly sought by this organization, then it MUST purge itself of the ineptitude that drives it. Somehow this organization must find a way to divest itself of the same Front Office that has caused it to leave what would now be (three) cities filled with hatred of the organizational failures.

Unless this changes, (and changes soon), the Big Red will soon be playing to an empty U of P stadium, with yet another team sporting a losing record and a squandered fan base. Money is tight, not just with the Bidwill's pockets, but for the entire Nation. Losing, for this team is not an option that can be sustained with this fan base. Westgate has already been eroded to a nearly bare skeleton of what it was, and the Cardinals are once again well on their way to leaving behind what would be the ultimate debacle, (an empty shell that was once a vibrant stadium), to join the empty and abandoned race track on West I-10, and what appears to be a hopelessly mired Hockey Arena in Westgate.

It is time for the Bidwill family to hire a 'genuinely knowledgeable' football person to run this organization, and clean out the decades of failed policies that have left broken hearts in Chicago, and St. Louis, (and now Glendale), if real change is not made, and made soon. The Whisenhunt honeymoon is over, and his continued efforts to bring about change, (while doing the same old things over and over) cannot be allowed to continue. He will not stumble onto another Kurt Warner to save his system, (at least not in this lifetime). He has shown no propensity to change his offense, or its coaches. The truth is, that no team can win, (when its offense can only muster 10 points per game). No defense can overcome that, AND moreover, no fan base will continue to pay in order to see more of it.

Post of the year, right here, Catfish! GREAT STUFF, man!

And do we have to LOVE our FANS! They sell the venue out---They are loud---They scream the entire 60 minutes and try to WILL the Cardinals to rise up and win.

But as any fan can see the organization and the designs are conspicuously flawed. And fans are smart enough to know when they are.

This poorly attempted facsimile of an NFL offense is a fraud---and has been anytime there hasn't been a #13 on the roster.

Even at ESPN in the pre-game, Cris Carter put it perfectly---he said that when #13 was in town, by mid-week he had the game plan devised and ready to go.

Now we know CC loves Fitz---and he and #11 talk---

But even the Fitz scenario has become a troubling paradox.

On the one hand---is there any better role model in professional sports today than Fitz? His work ethic rivals Jerry Rice's. As does his passion for winning.

On the other hand---this organization has become more about Fitz than anything else, and that is wrong and counter-productive.

Fitz love Whisenhunt---says so publicly all the time.

Yet hey Fitz, you REALLY want to win?

Whisenhunt and the organization aren't setting you up---and they sure as heck aren't setting the team up to win.

Then there's your annoying brother, Fitz. Why haven't you told him to shut the freuck up?

FREE FITZ.

Oh---poor, poor oppressed Larry.

Let's get out the tissues.

EVERYONE want to win a Super Bowl.

Yet, every paradox reveals a curious truth, and in this case it is that quite honestly Fitz would accept sub-standard personal stats in lieu of wins---or so one would think.

What's different now however---and check out this curious truth---when Fitz was at his ever-living best---he had Warner telling him to shut up (I am going to hit the other guys to take the attention away fro you and then i am going to set you up when we can divert the safety's attention the other way) and he had Haley hounding him on his routes and RAC shortcomings.

Who is holding in the reins on Fitz now?

Kolb?

Skelton?

Whisenhunt?

Miller?

McNulty?

Answer?

None of the above.

Fitz has become bigger than the coaches, and bigger than the organization.

Mad Jack ought to write LET'S WIN IT FOR FITZ on the next banner.

And if you look closely and notice---Fitz is making it even harder for the QBs to pass his way because when pressed Fitz takes extra long stutter stepping---and then the routes where he one would ensure 8 yards when it was 3rd and 9 are now 6-7 yards.

Now---don;t get me wrong---Fitz remains a first ballot HOF WR of epic proportions---but the point is, he needs to check his ego at the door, take the spotlight off of himself and get back to what allows him to WIN. In other words, Fitz, needs a coach who can get him and the offense back to what it once was...

Or there aint no Super Bowl ever again...

 

[LarryStalling]

I have the answer for the problem, Mitch. Throw away Whiz's Etch-A-Sketch that he uses to diagram plays for the game plan.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Post of the year, right here, Catfish! GREAT STUFF, man!

And do we have to LOVE our FANS! They sell the venue out---They are loud---They scream the entire 60 minutes and try to WILL the Cardinals to rise up and win.

But as any fan can see the organization and the designs are conspicuously flawed. And fans are smart enough to know when they are.

This poorly attempted facsimile of an NFL offense is a fraud---and has been anytime there hasn't been a #13 on the roster.

Even at ESPN in the pre-game, Cris Carter put it perfectly---he said that when #13 was in town, by mid-week he had the game plan devised and ready to go.

Now we know CC loves Fitz---and he and #11 talk---

But even the Fitz scenario has become a troubling paradox.

On the one hand---is there any better role model in professional sports today than Fitz? His work ethic rivals Jerry Rice's. As does his passion for winning.

On the other hand---this organization has become more about Fitz than anything else, and that is wrong and counter-productive.

Fitz love Whisenhunt---says so publicly all the time.

Yet hey Fitz, you REALLY want to win?

Whisenhunt and the organization aren't setting you up---and they sure as heck aren't setting the team up to win.

Then there's your annoying brother, Fitz. Why haven't you told him to shut the freuck up?

FREE FITZ.

Oh---poor, poor oppressed Larry.

Let's get out the tissues.

EVERYONE want to win a Super Bowl.

Yet, every paradox reveals a curious truth, and in this case it is that quite honestly Fitz would accept sub-standard personal stats in lieu of wins---or so one would think.

What's different now however---and check out this curious truth---when Fitz was at his ever-living best---he had Warner telling him to shut up (I am going to hit the other guys to take the attention away fro you and then i am going to set you up when we can divert the safety's attention the other way) and he had Haley hounding him on his routes and RAC shortcomings.

Who is holding in the reins on Fitz now?

Kolb?

Skelton?

Whisenhunt?

Miller?

McNulty?

Answer?

None of the above.

Fitz has become bigger than the coaches, and bigger than the organization.

Mad Jack ought to write LET'S WIN IT FOR FITZ on the next banner.

And if you look closely and notice---Fitz is making it even harder for the QBs to pass his way because when pressed Fitz takes extra long stutter stepping---and then the routes where he one would ensure 8 yards when it was 3rd and 9 are now 6-7 yards.

Now---don;t get me wrong---Fitz remains a first ballot HOF WR of epic proportions---but the point is, he needs to check his ego at the door, take the spotlight off of himself and get back to what allows him to WIN. In other words, Fitz, needs a coach who can get him and the offense back to what it once was...

Or there aint no Super Bowl ever again...

Get real! Teams are taking Fitz away and are saying beat us with someone else. They are EASILY generating a pass rush with only 4 down linemen. They are not afraid of Skelton and are waiting for him to make a mistake. They are not afraid of our running game. It's a complete mess on offense and it all stems from the Cardinals front office deciding to negelect the OL for the past 3 years.

There is no short term fix for this problem. Like it or not, we are stuck with what we've got for the rest of the season. Our only hope is that Wells and Kolb come back healthy in a couple of weeks and they can somehow find balance on the offense. I'm not holding my breath though.

 

[Russ Smith]

Is this in some way not necessary at this point? I originally thought that we'd brought Adam Snyder in to play RT, too. Now, it seems to me like the Cards thought that Snyder was a legitimate upgrade over Rex Hadnot at RG. That opinion seems to be mistaken.

The dumb thing is he was a better tackle than guard in SF. Now he got hurt so much that may no longer be true, but that was his best performance there playing RT.

 

[Russ Smith]

Get real! Teams are taking Fitz away and are saying beat us with someone else. They are EASILY generating a pass rush with only 4 down linemen. They are not afraid of Skelton and are waiting for him to make a mistake. They are not afraid of our running game. It's a complete mess on offense and it all stems from the Cardinals front office deciding to negelect the OL for the past 3 years.

There is no short term fix for this problem. Like it or not, we are stuck with what we've got for the rest of the season. Our only hope is that Wells and Kolb come back healthy in a couple of weeks and they can somehow find balance on the offense. I'm not holding my breath though.

Agreed, I didn't suggest trading Fitz because I think he's a problem it's because I think he's the best chance to acquire talent(and pick(s)) without breaking up the defensive core.

Larry's problem is quite simple, the OL can't protect long enough for him to get deep so to get the ball, he has to go over the middle or on shorter routes and he's doubled , and he's getting hit over and over.

He did drop a good ball from Skelton last night but again he was over the middle. Then later after Skelton put life in jeopardy with Goldson, he did the same thing to Fitz a couple of plays later. Fitz saw it coming and came to the ball and then ducked out of the hit.

I said it last season, Skelton is going to get Fitz hurt. He is going to get several guys hurt with that high throw that leaves the Wr exposed to big shots when they reach up for the ball.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Unless he's somehow hurt and we don't know it

That's my own personal conspiracy theory.

 

[Mitch]

Agreed, I didn't suggest trading Fitz because I think he's a problem it's because I think he's the best chance to acquire talent(and pick(s)) without breaking up the defensive core.

Larry's problem is quite simple, the OL can't protect long enough for him to get deep so to get the ball, he has to go over the middle or on shorter routes and he's doubled , and he's getting hit over and over.

He did drop a good ball from Skelton last night but again he was over the middle. Then later after Skelton put life in jeopardy with Goldson, he did the same thing to Fitz a couple of plays later. Fitz saw it coming and came to the ball and then ducked out of the hit.

I said it last season, Skelton is going to get Fitz hurt. He is going to get several guys hurt with that high throw that leaves the Wr exposed to big shots when they reach up for the ball.

Right...especially when all the throws you make are inside of a 20 foot box with all 11 defenders taking aim.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Ah, my friend, I see you are safe. Good!!! You also have time on your hands again, and in Mitch fashion, have used it creatively. Good stuff, especially the ride on the carousel. Another painted pony for us to ride, up and down and round and round. Once again, you have captured the true situation in beautiful prose, put it into perspective, and played it out for us to see.

Once again, you are so very right that my heart is heavy from holding on to the belief that the futility will finally end, and that this team we choose to love will somehow morph into the team we have always envisioned. Once again, the likelihood is that we will yet again, see more of the same.

Whisenhunt brought us change and hope. He made the roster better, but alas not the coaching staff. Yes, we had some glory, riding the Warner pony. We had new hope, and even lofty visions of a Lombardi trophy. But behind it all, was still the same old organization, trying to steal yet another trophy from the Pottsville Maroons. Paying enough of a price to make us look legit, (maybe even good), but grudgingly holding on to the reality that as an organization, it was more satisfying to defraud the fan base into believing that THIS team was for real. Spending just enough to get the long sought after new stadium, and the new revenue streams, (all the while teasing the fan base with the idea that things have finally changed).

Sadly, things HAVE changed. Previously, this organization simply left cities with broken hearts when they left behind the loyal fans who fed it. This time is different. This time, they have nearly managed to ruin an entire community, taking the City of Glendale to its very ruin. This time, they have duped an entire city into buying into the false pretense that is the Cardinal's way, and have seemingly made it appear that they would provide a solid base upon which that City could build, and build, even providing the belief that this false base could allow the City to expand into Hockey and an adjoining arena with businesses and offices to compliment, (and enrich), the pockets of the Cardinal's franchise.

Once again, the organization has bumbled its way into managing to be on the verge of throwing it ALL away. Once again, the same old ineptitude has managed to find a way to be on the verge of squandering all the good faith and love of the fan base in order to perpetuate the same old bumbling frugality and misplaced loyalty to Cardinal Family that ultimately leads to wearing out their welcome in yet another City.

If, indeed change is truly sought by this organization, then it MUST purge itself of the ineptitude that drives it. Somehow this organization must find a way to divest itself of the same Front Office that has caused it to leave what would now be (three) cities filled with hatred of the organizational failures.

Unless this changes, (and changes soon), the Big Red will soon be playing to an empty U of P stadium, with yet another team sporting a losing record and a squandered fan base. Money is tight, not just with the Bidwill's pockets, but for the entire Nation. Losing, for this team is not an option that can be sustained with this fan base. Westgate has already been eroded to a nearly bare skeleton of what it was, and the Cardinals are once again well on their way to leaving behind what would be the ultimate debacle, (an empty shell that was once a vibrant stadium), to join the empty and abandoned race track on West I-10, and what appears to be a hopelessly mired Hockey Arena in Westgate.

It is time for the Bidwill family to hire a 'genuinely knowledgeable' football person to run this organization, and clean out the decades of failed policies that have left broken hearts in Chicago, and St. Louis, (and now Glendale), if real change is not made, and made soon. The Whisenhunt honeymoon is over, and his continued efforts to bring about change, (while doing the same old things over and over) cannot be allowed to continue. He will not stumble onto another Kurt Warner to save his system, (at least not in this lifetime). He has shown no propensity to change his offense, or its coaches. The truth is, that no team can win, (when its offense can only muster 10 points per game). No defense can overcome that, AND moreover, no fan base will continue to pay in order to see more of it.

Great Great post. Whether you like me or not....That is as well said as possible.

I also blame us. Because everyone us...at one time prayed to God...and said "Please God...just let us get to 1 Super Bowl before I die" Well he answered it...and then slapped us on the back....and said now get back in the cellar.

 

[splitsecond]

The sad thing is, Tony Romo, as terrible and unpredictable as he can be, would make us a 10 win team.

 

[WildBB]

Great Great post. Whether you like me or not....That is as well said as possible.

I also blame us. Because everyone us...at one time prayed to God...and said "Please God...just let us WIN 1 Super Bowl before I die" Well he answered it...and then slapped us on the back....and said now get back in the cellar.

fify!

 

[moosehead]

the Big Red will soon be playing to an empty U of P stadium

Seriously - how bad will things need to get before the Front Office is inclined to take action? I'm genuinely curious. Kvetching on message boards is one thing but I am wondering what everyone thinks will make our displeasure heard or noticed?

Other than attendance at games, what real leverage does the fan base have? Are we really approaching a point where attendance will begin to shrink?

 

[Russ Smith]

Right...especially when all the throws you make are inside of a 20 foot box with all 11 defenders taking aim.

THe defenders are taking aim because the guy throwing in the box is staring at the guy he's going to throw to.

Yes we're not going downfield, we lead the NFL in sacks under 2.4 seconds, by a mile, our OL can't hold up long enough. And when he does get to throw downfield he throws the shortest hail mary I've ever seen.

I personally think Skelton got hurt on that Justin Smith hit, otherwise he lost about 20 MPH off his fastball last night and then part of it back later in the game.

 

[Duckjake]

Good stuff Mitch. I cracked up when I read the lattimore comment and got to laugh again at all the people who thought you were serious.

One thing that bothers me aside from the obvious issues with the offensive line is the Cards trying to use LSH for blitz protection. That just doesn't make any sense at all. He can't block LBs or even Safeties. I did notice that later in the game they started to keep Sherman in the backfield.

Speaking of Sherman, if the Cards want to pound the middle of the defense why not give the ball to a tank instead of a mini-cooper?

 

[splitsecond]

Is it bad that the first thing I thought when I saw the Lattimore injury (after the initial horror) was " well there is our second round pick next draft"?

 

[Catfish]

Seriously - how bad will things need to get before the Front Office is inclined to take action? I'm genuinely curious. Kvetching on message boards is one thing but I am wondering what everyone thinks will make our displeasure heard or noticed?

Other than attendance at games, what real leverage does the fan base have? Are we really approaching a point where attendance will begin to shrink?

In this economy? You're kidding, right? Just hide and watch what happens to the crowds at U of P if we keep on losing.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Speaking of Sherman, if the Cards want to pound the middle of the defense why not give the ball to a tank instead of a mini-cooper?

Mini-Cooper. Now that is funny.

I was actually thinking the same thing about Sherman. Kind of use him like Tampa did with Mike Alstott.

 

[WildBB]

Mini-Cooper. Now that is funny.

I was actually thinking the same thing about Sherman. Kind of use him like Tampa did with Mike Alstott.

Let's see what the kid's got....we get nothing much of the time anyway. 7 yds....sheesh.....and the Coaches don't have answers....