Don't we have to get the best CB we can in the draft?

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I don't see how we can keep bringing in these progects in hopes they learn how to play the position. We need to use a high draft pick on the best 1 or 2 CBs in the draft. I don't see why or how we would want to gamble on any other position at that point, or wait and get another project in the other rounds. There will be a good starter to grab at 10 or wherever we draft this season. Hopefully we will keep screwing around with that position opposite PP.

The CBs we keep sticking in there are fine except they are no good at either bump and run or playing off. Outside of those two things, yep they're are just fine.

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

At 10, I think you're starting to get into BPA territory. That's just MHO, but if there's a top tier CB there we should grab him. I just don't know who that is this year. I haven't followed college ball very closely this year.

 

[Finito]

Best player in my opnion looks like we're gonna be in the 10-15 range. QB, LB, CB even RB. If Fournette falls to you I think you have to take him he's just to good and with RB always being one play away from an injury you do it and have the most devastating run game in all of football

Zane Gonzales from ASU is the best kicker in the country I aay 3rd round on you look at taking him.

No real offensive lineman worth taking that high in this draft.

 

[Reign Blood]

The draft is five months away so let Kiper and Co. build up the prospects while we remain to argue.

 

[DVontel]

Best player in my opnion looks like we're gonna be in the 10-15 range. QB, LB, CB even RB. If Fournette falls to you I think you have to take him he's just to good and with RB always being one play away from an injury you do it and have the most devastating run game in all of football

Zane Gonzales from ASU is the best kicker in the country I aay 3rd round on you look at taking him.

No real offensive lineman worth taking that high in this draft.

Is this post actually serious?

 

[Jetstream Green]

Best player in my opnion looks like we're gonna be in the 10-15 range. QB, LB, CB even RB. If Fournette falls to you I think you have to take him he's just to good and with RB always being one play away from an injury you do it and have the most devastating run game in all of football

Zane Gonzales from ASU is the best kicker in the country I aay 3rd round on you look at taking him.

No real offensive lineman worth taking that high in this draft.

Are you serious about taking a running back that early. Sure, Dallas did it against the norm but look at their OL and we have Johnson and look where we took him

 

[Harry]

It's unlikely but possible Foster is there. He can't be passed. Assuming he's gone I'm thinking corner or receiver. Again if Williams is there I take him. By round 2 receivers are bigger gambles. Williams stands out more than any corner. The corner pool is so good you can still get a solid prospect in round 2. I like Tabor best if Williams is gone also. He's a bit of a hot dog, but that level of unshakeable self-confidence is a good trait in corners.

 

[Finito]

Of course it was serious. Todd Gurley went #10 and he's great but his problem is they load the box because he's the only thing they have to worry about. Fournette by all accounts is one of the best RB prospects in recent memory and you don't pass on a special talent especially at a position that gets hurt as often as they do

And yes we need a new kicker special teams have cost us 4 games this year and Can't has just become unreliable

 

[Bodha]

I think most fans generally agree at this point on Reuben Foster being our #1 target


after him, its a pickem. Quincy Wilson is the best CB. But Jamal Adams is the best S, and we might be losing Jefferson to FA.

Good problem to have. We should get a great player regardless

 

[GatorAZ]

You can't consider a RB that early and if we did it would be Dalvin Cook not Fournette.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I think most fans generally agree at this point on Reuben Foster being our #1 target


after him, its a pickem. Quincy Wilson is the best CB. But Jamal Adams is the best S, and we might be losing Jefferson to FA.

Good problem to have. We should get a great player regardless

Something about Alabama defensive players scare me...they are usually OK in the NFL...but hardly ever great. IE: Rolando Mcclain, Courtney Upshaw, CJ Mosley, Donte Hightower....all guys taken in the first 2 rounds. Solid players, but far from great. Just don't trust Alabama players...unless they're WR's.

 

[DVontel]

Something about Alabama defensive players scare me...they are usually OK in the NFL...but hardly ever great. IE: Rolando Mcclain, Courtney Upshaw, CJ Mosley, Donte Hightower....all guys taken in the first 2 rounds. Solid players, but far from great. Just don't trust Alabama players...unless they're WR's.

Landon Collins, Mosley, & Hightower are great players. Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix is very good, too. If there is one position to stay away from that comes from Alabama, it is Cornerback.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

My favorite CB is Marlon Humphrey from Alabama. OSU has 3 good DB prospects in Hooker, Conley, and Lattimore but not sure who will/won't declare for the draft.

I'm not staying away from a player just because he attended a specific school unless the player was a result of the system like Oregon offensive skill players in Chip Kelly's old college system.

 

[Finito]

Landon Collins, Mosley, & Hightower are great players. Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix is very good, too. If there is one position to stay away from that comes from Alabama, it is Cornerback.

Hightower and Mosley's numbers are identical to Minter there is perception and reality because they were superstars at Alabama come from a big time program they are perceived as great but in reality they are just solid NFL players.

I think by the time it's said and done Raekwon McCmillian and Zach Cuningham will show better and be considered the two best LB in the draft.

This time last year Reggie Ragland was considered the best linebacker in the country.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I don't see how we can keep bringing in these progects in hopes they learn how to play the position. We need to use a high draft pick on the best 1 or 2 CBs in the draft. I don't see why or how we would want to gamble on any other position at that point, or wait and get another project in the other rounds. There will be a good starter to grab at 10 or wherever we draft this season. Hopefully we will keep screwing around with that position opposite PP.

The CBs we keep sticking in there are fine except they are no good at either bump and run or playing off. Outside of those two things, yep they're are just fine.

I am not saying the drafting a CB early in the draft is a bad idea, and I really do not have a strong opinion on the draft yet.

That being said, any player drafted is a project. Just as big a risk as any free agent or bigger.

I think free agency has the POTENTIAL to produce a good player that will fit what the Cardinals need.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Landon Collins, Mosley, & Hightower are great players. Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix is very good, too. If there is one position to stay away from that comes from Alabama, it is Cornerback.

Collins is the only one that I think is good...the rest of those players are marginal, aka average. USC and UCLA put out better defensive guys than Alabama does...which is crazy to think about because Bama players are always super over-hyped because of the system they play in.

 

[Harry]

Cook is very risky from a durability standpoint. This was really the first year FSU was able to keep him on the field. Fournette is the safer choice, but RB is not where I'd go if I were picking for the Cards.

 

[DVontel]

Collins is the only one that I think is good...the rest of those players are marginal, aka average. USC and UCLA put out better defensive guys than Alabama does...which is crazy to think about because Bama players are always super over-hyped because of the system they play in.

Mosley, Dix, & Hightower were just Pro-Bowlers last year & had a good amount of All-Pro votes last year. Marcel Dareus is pretty damn good, too. I watch all of them a lot. Like I said, I would only stay away from Alabama CBs.

I'd stay the hell away from USC players. Especially from offense. I can't even think of an at least average USC player outside of Clay Matthews.

 

[Totally_Red]

As far as position CB, ILB, WR and free safety are obviously at the top of the 'need' list. If Larry returns for
another year, WR drops in importance.
If we draft a RB in the first round, my TV will have a hole in it.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Something about Alabama defensive players scare me...they are usually OK in the NFL...but hardly ever great. IE: Rolando Mcclain, Courtney Upshaw, CJ Mosley, Donte Hightower....all guys taken in the first 2 rounds. Solid players, but far from great. Just don't trust Alabama players...unless they're WR's.

Rashod Johnson.. 3rd round pick, but very solid, imo. I think he struggled his first 2 years but came around after that. Sorry to see him go.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Mosley, Dix, & Hightower were just Pro-Bowlers last year & had a good amount of All-Pro votes last year. Marcel Dareus is pretty damn good, too. I watch all of them a lot. Like I said, I would only stay away from Alabama CBs.

I'd stay the hell away from USC players. Especially from offense. I can't even think of an at least average USC player outside of Clay Matthews.

Agree on Dareus...he's a beast. Only players I can think of from USC on defense are Everson Griffen, Leanord Williams and Brian Cushing...all pretty solid guys. USC puts out some great O-Linemen...maybe some of the best in the country. And you're definitely right on Alabama CB's...that's like getting a QB from USC...you just don't do it.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Rashod Johnson.. 3rd round pick, but very solid, imo. I think he struggled his first 2 years but came around after that. Sorry to see him go.

Johnson was solid, but towards the end his tackling angles became a huge liability and he was giving up huge plays on a relatively consistent basis...that's probably why he was let go and isn't a starter anymore in the NFL.

 

[Bodha]

Something about Alabama defensive players scare me...they are usually OK in the NFL...but hardly ever great. IE: Rolando Mcclain, Courtney Upshaw, CJ Mosley, Donte Hightower....all guys taken in the first 2 rounds. Solid players, but far from great. Just don't trust Alabama players...unless they're WR's.

Thats not a fair measure though. What does player A have to do with player B, other than they went to the same school? I think the reason there seems to be a correlation is because Alabama has so many pro players, that it makes it easy to find a bunch of busts in relation to other schools that put fewer players into the pro's.

Alot of the players you named are significantly above-average pros. Notice the 2 AFC Pro Bowl ILB representatives are Donta and CJ. Are they elite? Maybe or maybe not, but that shouldnt be the bar. A defense full of above-average guys can win you superbowls. Just looking at the ILB position, how many elite ILBs are in the NFL? Maybe 3 tops.

And so when you consider there are only 3 total elite ILBs in the NFL at all, to have 2 not-elite Alabama LBs going to the pro bowl, thats pretty significant praise for the school.

And in regards to the upcoming draft, Allen does appear to be a true-elite DT similar to an Aaron Donald. Absolute dominant.

 

[JeffGollin]

Draft is only one of several options. Don't discount the development of some of the corners we've got (Include some of the guys who were injured and you've got a pretty long line of corners).

Key variable is coachability and speed along the learning curve.

Take #34 Miller for example. Never played safety at all. Comes in and does pretty freakin' good. B Williams - comparing his first game with now - is miles ahead of where he was earlier. Even Bethel had his good moments.

Plus - you never know which FA might want to sign with us.

 

[GatorAZ]

Cook is very risky from a durability standpoint. This was really the first year FSU was able to keep him on the field. Fournette is the safer choice, but RB is not where I'd go if I were picking for the Cards.

You have that backwards Harry.