Draft - one week out - what do the Cardinals do with #4?

[ASUCHRIS]

People will complain no matter what...

Cardinals Named One of Worst Drafting Teams in NFL

Pro Football Focus says the Arizona Cardinals can do much better in the NFL Draft.

www.si.com

And be right!

 

[Mulli]

I will just say this:

We will see.

 

[oaken1]

I will just say this:

We will see.

the truth is in the eating

 

[Redsz]

Alot of people are going to be disappointed when the Cardinals trade down.

 

[cardncubfan]

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[Chris_Sanders]

None is so blind as he who refuses to see.

You refuse to acknowledge that KM's adaptation to the Petzing offence, where he's not required to play hero ball, is a positive step forward. Coming off of a severe injury, without the benefit of an offseason and substandard support, KM managed a top-10 offence over 8 starts.

We are not letting another draft thread devolve into a Murray debate.

 

[TigToad]

Larry served us well, what would you trade Larry for? This kid could be better, expected hof in position of need.
Texans did great picking the 2 best players in last years draft, they won that trade!
Nobody seems to mention that.

Ok. Larry was the second best receiver ever. Better is a really high bar.

 

[WisconsinCard]

As to being ‘rude’ I wonder what KM thinks of your avatar photo with his head pasted over some animal—is that a doe or a greyhound in that photo? Is that your headshot pasted over the person posed with the KM-animal hybrid? That photo is not just rude, it is bizarre. How did that avatar get past the monitors---a beheaded KM pasted onto the body of an animal? What are you getting at with that photo???

You just haven't been around long enough to understand his handle and avatar. Not only is it allowed it's applauded.

 

[SECTION 11]

I will just say this:

We will see.

It will all be done at the end.

 

[SECTION 11]

You just haven't been around long enough to understand his handle and avatar. Not only is it allowed it's applauded.

It’s part of ASFN folklore.

 

[GimmedaBall]

What’s the best/cheapest current way to watch the draft. I don’t currently have nfl network or espn but know I’d need to get them

PLEX has NFL Network that you can view for free on your PC. If you have the ROKU streaming device you can also view on TV via PLEX and PLUTO.

Plex

app.plex.tv

Don't forget the popcorn!

 

[BritCard]

Because there wasn't an OT prospect spec'd to the top 10. PJJ wouldn't be a top 10 prospect in this draft -- it'd be an interesting exercise to consider where he'd rank int his class. Lance Zierlein and NFL.com gave him a 6.39 grade.

That would place him eighth in this year's draft class, according to the same sources.

Oof.

You realise none of this is real right?

You're saying Paris wasn't a top 10 pick and wouldn't be top 10 this year based on the opinion of some armchair football pundits?

Let's look at the year before. Ikem Ekwonu was consensus #7 pick and Eval Neal was #9 according to a bunch of people that never played or coached in the NFL. They happened to go 6th and 7th and both have been all kinds of meh.

Lance Zierlein gave Ekwonu a 6.73 grade and Evan Neal a 6.76 grade. In this years draft, which is potentially one of the best tackle classes in recent history, his highest rated tackle is JC Latham at 6.71 (lolz) and 2nd is Joe Alt at 6.49. The man has Tyler Guyton, who is one of the rawest tackle prospects in this draft with a 0.02 higher grade than Paris Johnson last year. There's really no comparison between them.

None of this is real. It's a game for clicks and ad sales, and using it to say that Paris was a bad pick or where he would go in this draft is like saying your buddy knows better than a seasoned pilot because he plays Microsoft Flight Simulator.

But I understand why you want to believe it.

 

[BritCard]

My not inconceivable mock draft

1. Caleb Williams - Bears
2. Drake Make - Commanders
3. Jayden Daniels - Raiders (Trade up)
4. JJ McCarthy - Vikings (Trade up)
5. Malik Nabers - Jets (Trade up)
6. MHJ - Giants
7. Joe Alt - Titans
8. Dallas Turner - Falcons
9. Olu Fashanu - Packers (Trade up)
10. Rome Odunze - Chargers

I'm not sold at all on Daniels to Washington. I think Maye is the better prospect and word is Daniels visit didn't go so well. I think Daniels would like to go to Pierce at the Raiders, and I think they move up for him as the Pats aren't interested in a guy like Daniels with Alex Van Pelt at OC.

With the Cards I think it most likely they trade back and move back up for WR but I'm floating the idea that they don't necessarily see the value in doing that with Mitchell or Thomas available at #23. I think that's unlikely, but not impossible. In my mind here is they still at #11 they take Latu or Arnold.

Jet's are the all innest of all in teams. I think everyone's job is on the line there. Salah is 18-33. Joe Douglas has made some poor FA moves and bad draft picks. I think this is it for them. I went with Nabers because he's something they don't have. Garrett Wilson is too similar to MHJ.

I don't think Giants are truly in the QB market. Jones starts this year because he has a $47m cap hit and lots of dead money. MHJ no brainer for them.

Titans O line sucks, Alt is an easy pick.

If there is a partner for them I fancy the Falcons will look to trade back. I was between Turner and Latu, I think Latu is better but Turner safer.

Packers have a need at LT with Bakhtiari gone. They played a '22 7th round pick there last year and he did pretty good, but I'm not sure they want to roll into the season where they want Love to push on with that at LT. They have a bunch of mid round picks (41, 58, 88, 91) and I think they could package some to the Bears to move up for Fash.

Chargers I can't see doing anything but WR.

 

[TigToad]

That mock looks a lot like worst case scenario. If we did this trade, I’d want to outbid green at for 9 and still get Odunze.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

That mock looks a lot like worst case scenario. If we did this trade, I’d want to outbid green at for 9 and still get Odunze.

Or a best case scenario. You could still trade back up to the 8-9 range and still get Odunze, while the price to move back up is much lower.

 

[Krangodnzr]

My not inconceivable mock draft

1. Caleb Williams - Bears
2. Drake Make - Commanders
3. Jayden Daniels - Raiders (Trade up)
4. JJ McCarthy - Vikings (Trade up)
5. Malik Nabers - Jets (Trade up)
6. MHJ - Giants
7. Joe Alt - Titans
8. Dallas Turner - Falcons
9. Olu Fashanu - Packers (Trade up)
10. Rome Odunze - Chargers

I'm not sold at all on Daniels to Washington. I think Maye is the better prospect and word is Daniels visit didn't go so well. I think Daniels would like to go to Pierce at the Raiders, and I think they move up for him as the Pats aren't interested in a guy like Daniels with Alex Van Pelt at OC.

With the Cards I think it most likely they trade back and move back up for WR but I'm floating the idea that they don't necessarily see the value in doing that with Mitchell or Thomas available at #23. I think that's unlikely, but not impossible. In my mind here is they still at #11 they take Latu or Arnold.

Jet's are the all innest of all in teams. I think everyone's job is on the line there. Salah is 18-33. Joe Douglas has made some poor FA moves and bad draft picks. I think this is it for them. I went with Nabers because he's something they don't have. Garrett Wilson is too similar to MHJ.

I don't think Giants are truly in the QB market. Jones starts this year because he has a $47m cap hit and lots of dead money. MHJ no brainer for them.

Titans O line sucks, Alt is an easy pick.

If there is a partner for them I fancy the Falcons will look to trade back. I was between Turner and Latu, I think Latu is better but Turner safer.

Packers have a need at LT with Bakhtiari gone. They played a '22 7th round pick there last year and he did pretty good, but I'm not sure they want to roll into the season where they want Love to push on with that at LT. They have a bunch of mid round picks (41, 58, 88, 91) and I think they could package some to the Bears to move up for Fash.

Chargers I can't see doing anything but WR.

Listening to Schrager, he says the Giants really are interested in QBs. They met with McCarthy twice.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Being reported today that Harrison Jr has a promise from us. That would be welcome news

 

[MadCardDisease]

Being reported today that Harrison Jr has a promise from us. That would be welcome news

We promise not to select you? We promise to take you as long as no one offers us 3 1sts?

Did they report what the promise was?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

We promise not to select you? We promise to take you as long as no one offers us 3 1sts?

Did they report what the promise was?

We promise to draft him at 4 if he is there.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Paris was picked 6th? Will any of the OTs be picked 6th?

lol

That’s a terrible measuring stick. Bad too end talent last year. More to end talent this year. If the grading k9 presented is accurate it sounds like Paris would’ve gone in the late 20s/early 2nd round this year.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

My not inconceivable mock draft

1. Caleb Williams - Bears
2. Drake Make - Commanders
3. Jayden Daniels - Raiders (Trade up)
4. JJ McCarthy - Vikings (Trade up)
5. Malik Nabers - Jets (Trade up)
6. MHJ - Giants
7. Joe Alt - Titans
8. Dallas Turner - Falcons
9. Olu Fashanu - Packers (Trade up)
10. Rome Odunze - Chargers

I'm not sold at all on Daniels to Washington. I think Maye is the better prospect and word is Daniels visit didn't go so well. I think Daniels would like to go to Pierce at the Raiders, and I think they move up for him as the Pats aren't interested in a guy like Daniels with Alex Van Pelt at OC.

With the Cards I think it most likely they trade back and move back up for WR but I'm floating the idea that they don't necessarily see the value in doing that with Mitchell or Thomas available at #23. I think that's unlikely, but not impossible. In my mind here is they still at #11 they take Latu or Arnold.

Jet's are the all innest of all in teams. I think everyone's job is on the line there. Salah is 18-33. Joe Douglas has made some poor FA moves and bad draft picks. I think this is it for them. I went with Nabers because he's something they don't have. Garrett Wilson is too similar to MHJ.

I don't think Giants are truly in the QB market. Jones starts this year because he has a $47m cap hit and lots of dead money. MHJ no brainer for them.

Titans O line sucks, Alt is an easy pick.

If there is a partner for them I fancy the Falcons will look to trade back. I was between Turner and Latu, I think Latu is better but Turner safer.

Packers have a need at LT with Bakhtiari gone. They played a '22 7th round pick there last year and he did pretty good, but I'm not sure they want to roll into the season where they want Love to push on with that at LT. They have a bunch of mid round picks (41, 58, 88, 91) and I think they could package some to the Bears to move up for Fash.

Chargers I can't see doing anything but WR.

 

[Dback Jon]

Yes - that would be a horrid scenario

 

[Mulli]

The draft is tomorrow, where are the threads?!

That’s a terrible measuring stick. Bad too end talent last year. More to end talent this year. If the grading k9 presented is accurate it sounds like Paris would’ve gone in the late 20s/early 2nd round this year.

ok

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Or a best case scenario. You could still trade back up to the 8-9 range and still get Odunze, while the price to move back up is much lower.

Or, you might not even be able to do so. I agree, that mock would suck.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The draft is tomorrow, where are the threads?!

ok

Not okay