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Yeah, I was in a rush to join my wife in the Hot Tub so I didn't think that through. Slin is correct, if you project Archie as a shooting guard, shooting is his biggest question mark. Despite the fact he shot very few 3 pointers, he only shot 33% on jump shots. With his length and his age, someone will take a gamble on him and although it's a long shot, he could end up being a huge success down the road.
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I'm not pushing for the Suns to draft Goodwin but I think the biggest knock on him is his shooting stroke which can be corrected as he is only a freshman. I think he has a huge upside if a team does not expect him to start at SG and are willing to wait for him to develop. His shooting stroke did not look bad to me but he needs to develop consistency on how his mechanics.
Well, one thing we do have going for us is having a great shooting teacher as coach.
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OK, now you're just showing off.
It's Southern California, don't we all have Hot Tubs? Mostly because our back yards are too small to put in an actual pool.
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The Suns have worked out 45 players per Paul Coro's latest count on June 9th. I like this aggressive approach.
The most recent reported were New Mexico SG/SF Tony Snell, Providence SG Ricky Ledo & Long Beach State SG/SF James Ennis.
Tony Snell is really moving up draft boards and Ricky Ledo is starting to get some attention. All three are really intriguing for the #30 pick or if the Suns can secure another selection. Also they are shooters with Ennis being an excellent athlete as well.
https://twitter.com/paulcoro
The most recent reported were New Mexico SG/SF Tony Snell, Providence SG Ricky Ledo & Long Beach State SG/SF James Ennis.
Tony Snell is really moving up draft boards and Ricky Ledo is starting to get some attention. All three are really intriguing for the #30 pick or if the Suns can secure another selection. Also they are shooters with Ennis being an excellent athlete as well.
https://twitter.com/paulcoro
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Per paul Coro on twitter:
The Suns keep the workouts coming. It will be interesting to see who gets a second workout although there may be some camouflage when they do it.
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The Suns keep the workouts coming. It will be interesting to see who gets a second workout although there may be some camouflage when they do it.
https://twitter.com/paulcoro
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Having read some of the latest scouting reports, I've decided that I like McLemore, Len, and Oladipo, in that order. No interest in Noel, Porter, or Bennett. If either Porter or Bennett goes before the Suns pick, that's a huge break.
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Hmm. I agree, except I would swap Oladipo and McLemore.
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Oladipo, McLemore, McCollum or Len.
That would be order of preference for me.
That would be order of preference for me.
I'm not really liking any of these "top" prospects. Lots of red flags. Three are currently injured. And they did not help themselves in their post-workout interviews, except for McCollum who appears the most mature and NBA-ready, but also with the least potential.
I did not like Burke one bit. Nor Bennett. McLemore didn't impress me either. Oladipo? Very risky, imo. Right now I'm actually leaning towards Len, who seems to fit the profile of the kind of player I normally wish the Suns stayed away from. This is just a bad draft to have a high pick in, imo. Many teams will come away empty.
I did not like Burke one bit. Nor Bennett. McLemore didn't impress me either. Oladipo? Very risky, imo. Right now I'm actually leaning towards Len, who seems to fit the profile of the kind of player I normally wish the Suns stayed away from. This is just a bad draft to have a high pick in, imo. Many teams will come away empty.
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I have a strong feeling that Shabazz is our guy, maybe not at 5. He was regarded as one of the top recruits going into college, but has a few question marks after a tumultuous freshman season. His story is similar to Rondo. McDonough has been scouting him for years. He's the scorer that we need and seems to have the drive to improve. If we could somehow come away with Len and Shabazz, I would be stoked.
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I think he's our guy and we will take him at 5. He's a huge risk but in this draft that goes without saying for any of the high potential guys. Given that, he actually might be the safest out of all of them. He will score and nobody ever won a basketball game 0-0. I don't even know if the guy has a position in the NBA but starter or off the bench, he'll still have some value. I'm not at all happy about this but it's the way I've expected us to go for some time now.
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IMO, this draft is a roll of the nice. I guess I prefer the Suns going big at #5 unless somehow McLemore were to fall (unlikely). I would not be upset with Adams being selected as SunsTzu suggests. I'm glad McDonough is making the pick and not me. The more picks the better in the draft if one is trying to find a keeper.
I'm still a fan of Burke but I do not see the Suns going there.
I'm still a fan of Burke but I do not see the Suns going there.
Agreed! Thats why Id love the Suns to do something like send Gortat to Portland for their pick, or whatever.
I feel like this draft is definitely the type where if you have multiple picks, the guy you grabbed at 10-15 could end up being better than the top 5 guy just because its a crapshoot. Like when the Suns picked Dan Majerle at 14 and Tim Perry at 7, clearly Majerle had the better career.
I prefer Pop's "I want some nasty!" mentality.
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To me, that's a reason to want fewer picks in this draft, not more. I'd much rather divest ourselves of all picks in this draft and acquire some future picks. Yes, it's quite possible that a player you grab in the teems is better than a guy taken in the top 5 but that's because of weakness and question marks not strength.
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I view this draft as a level draft. This draft just does not have elite talent at the top that knocks you over. The Suns were not going to get it drafting #5 anyway. I like the depth of the draft as well.
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I do think this is a good draft if you want to develop a young center or draft a PG. If McDonough was not the Suns GM I might feel the same as you.
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I'd be one of them. He's not much of a basketball player right now. May never be one. I certainly wouldn't select him over Len, and probably not even Zeller.
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I think that there is some huge potential in the bigs (to bust and to excel) but I don't think there is an above average point guard in this draft. I'm not even sure there is a multi-year starter out of this group (excluding international players of which I know very little). I know I'm pretty much alone on Burke but I'm just not convinced he'll be anything more than a Jameer Nelson in the NBA. He doesn't defend well, he's too short and he has average quickness at best. Michael Carter-Williams might even be the better choice despite the fact he's anorexic and can't shoot. Somebody will probably excel from this draft but I think luck will play a huge factor for the organization that gets a star out of this grroup.
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I think that in a stronger draft it is definitely possible to get an elite level player at #5. Of course the odds are always against it, but that's true for any pick except maybe for top overall. The problem is that in this draft no team is likely to walk away with an elite player. Last season was probably one of the worst in recent memory to tank. Fortunately, next year's draft appears a lot more promising.
Btw, in the last 10 years, elite level players still available at #5: Dwayne Wade, Kevin Love, Brandon Roy. Others: Stephen Curry, Andrew Bynum, Rudy Gay, Andre Iguadala, DeMarcus Cousins, Ricky Rubio, Eric Gordon, Brook Lopez, Joakim Noah.
