Dragan Bender

[pokerface]

Just curious about how people feel about Dragan Bender after this season.

 

[slinslin]

I doubt anyone is going to give up anything for him so trading him is most likely pointless but we sure as heck would look better right now if we had simply drafted Chriss at #4 and Labissiere at #13 and someone like Zubac or Brogdon at #28, as I campaigned for!

 

[elindholm]

I never wanted the Suns to draft him, but now that they have, they need to hold onto him long enough to figure out what he can be. It makes no sense to take a long-term prospect at #4 and then dump him after a year.

 

[3rdside]

Wouldn't trade him and still intrigued at his possibility even though head says expect the worst.

I said maker at #13 for a dark horse swing for the fences move and he's turning out alright.


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[Sunburn]

He's a project for sure but I can tell he's special when watching him. He moves, dribbles, passes, defends in a manner that is just not seen in someone his size. His shot mechanics are smooth as well. I wouldn't worry too much. In a couple years, he'll be a cornerstone of our team. I'm glad we took him.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Just curious about how people feel about Dragan Bender after this season.

He gets an incomplete on the season. But he passes the eye test with his handles and movement. I have no doubt he will only get better with time and maturity on and off the court. Ive never felt that way about Len. Even after his rookie season. Bender is very young but he gets it. Give him time.

 

[Mainstreet]

He gets an incomplete on the season. But he passes the eye test with his handles and movement. I have no doubt he will only get better with time and maturity on and off the court. Ive never felt that way about Len. Even after his rookie season. Bender is very young but he gets it. Give him time.

I think the part in bold summarizes Bender's first season.

His .364 free throw percentage bothered me but he only took 11 attempts.

Also I realized most of his shots came from 3 point range. If I am reading his stats correctly, 101 of 161 of his field goal attempts were from this distance. This may have contributed to his poor FG percentage plus he was not physically mature enough to play inside.

I want to see want Bender can do when he matures physically.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He looked good, but he was timid, needs to physically mature, and he needs to work a bit on his shot.

He has the chance to be a special player if he develops correctly.

 

[Chaplin]

He looked good, but he was timid, needs to physically mature, and he needs to work a bit on his shot.

All of which can be improved upon.

 

[3rdside]

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[TJ]

Wish there was an option for, "no, I'm not happy, but we should not trade him."

 

[Yuma]

I thought I was the only one that still likes Bender!

 

[Errntknght]

I thought I was the only one that still likes Bender!

The board is overwhelmingly happy with him according to this poll. I do see now that some else has now joined slin in wanting him gone... or, more likely, slin snuck in under another name and voted a second time.

 

[pokerface]

The board is overwhelmingly happy with him according to this poll. I do see now that some else has now joined slin in wanting him gone... or, more likely, slin snuck in under another name and voted a second time.

 

[3rdside]

Omg if someone says bender is good one more time I'm going to scream.

Quite simply if you think that you're insane, look at the stats LOOK AT THE STATS!!!!

lol


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[pokerface]

Omg if someone says bender is good one more time I'm going to scream.

Quite simply if you think that you're insane, look at the stats LOOK AT THE STATS!!!!

We don't look at Benders stats...we watch him play and look for potential.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Omg if someone says bender is good one more time I'm going to scream.

Quite simply if you think that you're insane, look at the stats LOOK AT THE STATS!!!!

lol


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Bender looks like he will be good. X10!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[3rdside]

We don't look at Benders stats...we watch him play and look for potential.

I'd have thrown in a sarcasm emoticon but I actually need a slinslin one

 

[3rdside]

Bender looks like he will be good. X10!!!!!!!!!!!!

The old 'eye test vs worst stats in the history of nba rookie season' chestnut again? I'm firmly on the fence with Bender in view of it!

 

[JCSunsfan]

The old 'eye test vs worst stats in the history of nba rookie season' chestnut again? I'm firmly on the fence with Bender in view of it!

Awww. I was going for the scream.

 

[Hoop Head]

Going by stats alone he was better than the Ben Simmons, who was the #1 overall pick. I don't see what's not to like when comparing their numbers.

Bender looked good on the court, especially when given real playing time. Considering it was a lost season with a number of players being shut down, he could have waited to return next season but he pushed himself to get back and play in the final 5 games and that shows quality character on his part. If he didn't return in April though he would have been under 500 minutes for the season which would have kept a number of his stats from being ranked amongst others players. You need at least 500 minutes to qualify for what is considered an "accurate" PER and other advanced stats.

Early in the year his minutes were very inconsistent though, it wasn’t until the end of December when he started seeing somewhat regular playing time and then he got hurt in mid January. There were still some stats that show what he could be in the future, like his split stats that break down how he played given the minutes he received. They split them a number of ways like day of the week, wins or losses, home vs road, month to month, etc. Anyone who watched him play could tell he played better the longer he was on the floor and the split stats based on minutes played back that up. Broken down by 0-9, 10-19, 20-29, and 30-39 minutes played, in games he played 20 or more minutes though he shot better from the field, 3 point range, had a better offensive rating, and his +/- was positive. Considering how bad we were all year, seeing him with a positive +/- was surprising.

Here are those stats...

Bender

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[leclerc]

Let's see when summer league starts who gets to eat crow. I think he'll be closer to Kukoc (at 19) than Tsikivilli (great toe flips and tight pirouettes).

Besides the dude plays pretty good defence inside and out. Where is that stat?

 

[3rdside]

Going by stats alone he was better than the Ben Simmons, who was the #1 overall pick. I don't see what's not to like when comparing their numbers.

Bender looked good on the court, especially when given real playing time. Considering it was a lost season with a number of players being shut down, he could have waited to return next season but he pushed himself to get back and play in the final 5 games and that shows quality character on his part. If he didn't return in April though he would have been under 500 minutes for the season which would have kept a number of his stats from being ranked amongst others players. You need at least 500 minutes to qualify for what is considered an "accurate" PER and other advanced stats.

Early in the year his minutes were very inconsistent though, it wasn’t until the end of December when he started seeing somewhat regular playing time and then he got hurt in mid January. There were still some stats that show what he could be in the future, like his split stats that break down how he played given the minutes he received. They split them a number of ways like day of the week, wins or losses, home vs road, month to month, etc. Anyone who watched him play could tell he played better the longer he was on the floor and the split stats based on minutes played back that up. Broken down by 0-9, 10-19, 20-29, and 30-39 minutes played, in games he played 20 or more minutes though he shot better from the field, 3 point range, had a better offensive rating, and his +/- was positive. Considering how bad we were all year, seeing him with a positive +/- was surprising.

Here are those stats...

Bender

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Well if you're going write a monologue, focused ones are better - good post. I'm particularly drawn to his 3pt% playing >20 mins which is pretty good even if you combine >20 mins and >30 mins together (.350%). And i can't lie; I love seeing a stat sheet filled up across the board (9, 8, 3) in his one game >30 mins even if it is just one game.

 

[slinslin]

That stat is so useless.

Of course his numbers are better when he played more minutes because he only played more minutes when he played better....

 

[3rdside]

**looking for the erect penis emoticon, can't find it**