Durant to Suns

[Mainstreet]

It happens sometimes but in fairness, it didn't happen here. Jae was part of the Durant trade, for all we know it was the only way the deal would have worked for Brooklyn and Milwaukee. And then we depleted our bench even more by giving away Saric who only recently had started playing more like the Dario of old.

A team can't lose starters and rotation players like Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, Dario Saric and Jae Crowder and not replace them. This has to all be considered.

The Suns gave up too much. At some point, a team has to know where to draw the line in a trade. Brooklyn got EVERYTHING they wanted.

They are now relying on Bazley, Warren, Wainright and Cam Payne, who hasn't been consistent for two seasons, all the while hoping Durant gets healthy.

The Suns needed to add to the team... not take away from it.

 

[AzStevenCal]

A team can't lose starters and rotation players like Cam Johnson, Mikal Bridges, Dario Saric and Jae Crowder and not replace them. This has to all be considered.

The Suns gave up too much. At some point, a team has to know where to draw the line in a trade. Brooklyn got EVERYTHING they wanted.

They are now relying on Bazley, Warren, Wainright and Cam Payne, who hasn't been consistent for two seasons, all the while hoping Durant gets healthy.

The Suns needed to add to the team... not take away from it.

I'm just not sure how much of the blame for all this should fall on the GM.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Welp I hate to say it because I’ve always enjoyed your posts even when disagreeing them, but I gotta put mainstream on ignore. The every other post complaining about a trade that’s been consummated and will have years before we know the outcome is just too much clutter.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm just not sure how much of the blame for all this should fall on the GM.

I don't either. The owner and the GM had to be in agreement to some extent.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Welp I hate to say it because I’ve always enjoyed your posts even when disagreeing them, but I gotta put mainstream on ignore. The every other post complaining about a trade that’s been consummated and will have years before we know the outcome is just too much clutter.

 

[Mainstreet]

Welp I hate to say it because I’ve always enjoyed your posts even when disagreeing them, but I gotta put mainstream on ignore. The every other post complaining about a trade that’s been consummated and will have years before we know the outcome is just too much clutter.

Do what you like but I was responding to your post. I have a right to my own opinion.

 

[Covert Rain]

If the Suns FO and ownership thought this trade through, they had to see all that could go wrong.

I can't believe there is already talk of trading Durant.

Huh?! That’s true of any move you make. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean they see it the same way you do. You are acting like they should agree with you.

Also, every team looks ahead at possible windows they keep players. That’s not the same thing as actively planning to trade players. Again, what front office doesn’t?!?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

No drama, just not readable at this point. Not even remotely personal like most of my ignores. I’m sure I’ll take it off at some point unlike others where I’ve done it because I’ve figured I don’t need to hear anything from those other posters.

 

[Sparky16]

Even so, in comparison to the Nash trade, I think the risk side dramatically outweighs the risk side of the Durant trade.

If Nash didn't pan out... then one the back end of the deal, we're wasting some cap space. If Durant delivers anything less than a title, this trade is potentially one of the worst trades in NBA history.

In the off season of 2024 it is a near certainty that we wouldn't be able to trade Durant for a player of Bridges caliber, straight up. That is 16 months away... and even after that reality comes to pass, we will still owe 3 unprotected firsts and a pick swap.

Anything less than a title in the next 2-3 years and this is one of the all-time disaster trades. I hate being in that position, because winning a title is freaking hard. The Bulls and early 2000s Lakers made it look easy, but the league was not as competitive as it is now. Even if Durant is healthy, I'd still peg us as a dog to the Bucks and Celtics.

The late picks mean squat - what stings is Bridges and Bridges only. There was no guarantee that Johnson would be resigned. The real value of having Durant outside of playoffs will be the caliber of FA talent that will come and play in Phx next year

 

[puckhead]

Has there been a status report on the progress of KD's recovery yet? Anyone know the approximate target for his return?

TIA

 

[BirdGangThing]

Has there been a status report on the progress of KD's recovery yet? Anyone know the approximate target for his return?

TIA

Saw someone last night on tv saying "by the end of March"

 

[95pro]

Has there been a status report on the progress of KD's recovery yet? Anyone know the approximate target for his return?

TIA

KD next week.

DA? No news

 

[Covert Rain]

Saw someone last night on tv saying "by the end of March"

The way they were making it sound on the radio is it's out of KD's hands as well or he would have been back sooner.

 

[Mainstreet]

The way they were making it sound on the radio is it's out of KD's hands as well or he would have been back sooner.

I'd feel a lot better if I saw Durant in some shooting or workout videos. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall seeing him recently.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Huh?! That’s true of any move you make. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean they see it the same way you do. You are acting like they should agree with you.

Also, every team looks ahead at possible windows they keep players. That’s not the same thing as actively planning to trade players. Again, what front office doesn’t?!?

just admit it was an awful trade.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

just admit it was an awful trade.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that you're ready to cast judgement on the trade right away, yet anyone who says anything about the Cards FA period is immediately a chicken little and making judgements far too early.

Incredible mental gymnastics, par for the course.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that you're ready to cast judgement on the trade right away, yet anyone who says anything about the Cards FA period is immediately a chicken little and making judgements far too early.

Incredible mental gymnastics, par for the course.

wrong AGAIN.

You should try being right once in a while. Reading comprehension can be fun!

Back on ignore for you.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'd feel a lot better if I saw Durant in some shooting or workout videos. Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall seeing him recently.

I have not seen any but in the last pre-game they mentioned he looked good in shootaround.

 

[Covert Rain]

just admit it was an awful trade.

I can't see into the future over the next couple seasons. I can admit this is an awful take until then oh...
Carnac the Magnificent.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

I can't. I can't see into the future over the next couple season. I can admit this is an awful take oh...
Carnac the Magnificent.

yea-- they sacrificed their future for an washed up bum who is hurt all the time.

Fire the GM over this already, unless he can talk a team likethe Bulls into taking KD for a young talent like Patrick Williams

 

[Mainstreet]

I have not seen any but in the last pre-game they mentioned he looked good in shootaround.

This is good to hear. The Suns upcoming schedule is going to be a challenge.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

=Fire the GM over this already, unless he can talk a team likethe Bulls into taking KD for a young talent like Patrick Williams

Man, trade a top 10 value guy for a guy not even rated. https://nbarankings.theringer.com/league-pass-value

I vote JohnnyCakes for our new GM!

 

[Covert Rain]

yea-- they sacrificed their future for an washed up bum who is hurt all the time.

Fire the GM over this already, unless he can talk a team likethe Bulls into taking KD for a young talent like Patrick Williams

Sky is falling...sky is falling. Dude...let's wait to see how this unfolds over the next couple season before going all chicken little.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Sky is falling...sky is falling. Dude...let's wait to see how this unfolds over the next couple season before going all chicken little.

it has nothing to do witht he sky falling...and everything to do with it being a bad trade

 

[Dr dumas]

it has nothing to do witht he sky falling...and everything to do with it being a bad trade

If the goal is to win a championship, but we haven’t even played one playoff game, then how in the world is this statement not premature?

Sure sounds like the sky is falling to me.