Durant to Suns

[Yuma]

Once Barkley took the court, he was as competitive and hard working as they come. He was a monster. But it's what Chuck did when he wasn't balling that kept us from having a title or two. And if he'd been half as dedicated in his preparation and conditioning as MJ was he'd be a consensus top 5 all time great.

Barkley is one of my all time favorite players to watch but if you're talking about their entire careers, I think CP3 wins out when it comes to greatest player to never win a title.

We can agree to disagree. I like CP3. Even as a vegan I can appreciate his off court preparation. However, as a guard, I would even pick Steve Nash over CP3, as a better player who never won a ring as a player.

 

[GatorAZ]

We can agree to disagree. I like CP3. Even as a vegan I can appreciate his off court preparation. However, as a guard, I would even pick Steve Nash over CP3, as a better player who never won a ring as a player.

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Needed some animal protein come May/June though.

 

[AzStevenCal]

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Chris Paul is notorious for going MIA in the postseason on every team he’s played for. He was probably one complete playoff run from being considered the 2nd greatest PG ever.

That's true but AFAIC he should also be famous for dragging a bunch of under-talented teams to the postseason. And he should be notorious but more for his cheap antics (flopping, ref baiting etc.). But there's no question in my mind that he's the best two way true point guard to ever play the game.

 

[AzStevenCal]

We can agree to disagree. I like CP3. Even as a vegan I can appreciate his off court preparation. However, as a guard, I would even pick Steve Nash over CP3, as a better player who never won a ring as a player.

Unlike Nash, CP3 was a legit two way superstar. I'd much rather watch Nash play the game but Chris was the total package.

 

[Yuma]

That's true but AFAIC he should also be famous for dragging a bunch of under-talented teams to the postseason. And he should be notorious but more for his cheap antics (flopping, ref baiting etc.). But there's no question in my mind that he's the best two way true point guard to ever play the game.

Respectfully, I think Magic Johnson is a way better two way player than CP3. Let's see CP3 win a playoff game playing center.

 

[Yuma]

Unlike Nash, CP3 was a legit two way superstar. I'd much rather watch Nash play the game but Chris was the total package.

How many MVP's did CP3 win?

CP3 is good, but if I had to build my all time team, he's not my starting PG.

 

[AzStevenCal]

How many MVP's did CP3 win?

CP3 is good, but if I had to build my all time team, he's not my starting PG.

I think offense is slightly more important than defense so I might choose someone other than CP3 too but, if so, it wouldn't be Nash. If I had a great defensive center backstopping a quality team defense, I'd definitely take Curry as my starter. But if I were looking for a true two way point guard, I'd take CP3 first and Gary Payton second. And, regardless of team makeup, I'd take all three of them over Nash.

 

[GatorAZ]

Steve Nash never disappeared or was the main reason we lost a series. He had his flaws but Chris Paul completely no showed after game 2 vs Milwaukee, same vs Dallas and got hurt vs Denver. I’d take playoff Nash 100% over him.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm prejudice, but Steve Nash is my favorite point guard.

A healthy Chris Paul was the best closer in the game. If his team could get the lead with 4-5 minutes left in the game, a win was like cash money.

 

[Hoop Head]

I'm prejudice, but Steve Nash is my favorite point guard.

A healthy Chris Paul was the best closer in the game. If his team could get the lead with 4-5 minutes left in the game, a win was like cash money.

Might want to say biased rather than prejudiced when comparing Paul and Nash, especially when selecting Nash.

I agree with everything else though.

 

[leclerc]

KJ was pretty good also. Just talking on the court here. Disregarding the injuries etc.

 

[Chaplin]

KJ was my favorite player, but it's really between CP3 and Charles Barkley, and IMO, Barkley just barely takes the crown.

 

[Covert Rain]

I think you absolutely can.

As other's mentioned, Carmelo Anthony put up monster numbers, but I think Carmelo shouldn't even sniff the hall of fame, he is an all time empty stat player.

Durant isn't in that territory of overrated, but the people that try to put him as a top 10 player all time are out of their gourd. He's a great shooter, he puts up stats, he's not a leader or team player by any sense, and on any given night you gotta take away 6-12 points off his contribution to account for him just tossing the ball to the wrong team for a free basket. I have truly never seen a "superstar" who is as sloppy with the ball as he is. And his decision to join the Warriors did catastrophic damage to his legacy... especially when they went and won another title after he left.

Having watched both players, IMO, Chris Paul is a significantly better and more impactful player than Kevin Durant... and I don't think the comparison is even close. Chris Paul is probably the best player to not win a ring.

100% disagree but others already said it.

 

[swagron]

Not a Suns historian and they weren’t the best players on those teams, but I always liked Richard Dumas and Cedric Ceballos from those years.