Durant to the Warriors

[Cheesebeef]

"My evolution as a man"
Geez, what a tool.

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He devolved as a man with this move, IMO.

 

[devilalum]

What's with all the Warrior love on this board?

Being a Suns fan AND a Warriors fan is exactly like being a Cards fan AND a 49ers fan.

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[D-Dogg]

Why really should Suns fans hate GSW? As a Laker fan, despite them being in our path, you've got the Logo and Klay (and previously Luke) as connections to Lakerland. But why should the Suns hate? I am not privy to any of the drama surrounding these two teams.

 

[devilalum]

Why really should Suns fans hate GSW? As a Laker fan, despite them being in our path, you've got the Logo and Klay (and previously Luke) as connections to Lakerland. But why should the Suns hate? I am not privy to any of the drama surrounding these two teams.

My dislike for the Warriors goes all the way back to Rick Berry.

Are you a 49er fan too.

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[Mainstreet]

Why really should Suns fans hate GSW? As a Laker fan, despite them being in our path, you've got the Logo and Klay (and previously Luke) as connections to Lakerland. But why should the Suns hate? I am not privy to any of the drama surrounding these two teams.

A couple:

1. The Warriors backed out of the Curry trade when a promise was reportedly in place for Amare.

2. Steve Kerr was a bad GM for the Suns.

 

[D-Dogg]

Are you a 49er fan too.

Are you new?

 

[D-Dogg]

A couple:

1. The Warriors backed out of the Curry trade when a promise was reportedly in place for Amare.

2. Steve Kerr was a bad GM for the Suns.

Aaaaaahhhhh, I didn't know there was some blood with a trade. And Kerr was the GM then too? Sooo, he almost trades for Curry...it falls apart, then he ends up coaching them later when Steph became STEPH, and wins a title (and more coming).

Fair enough. I see it.

 

[devilalum]

Are you new?

No, just MO that liking the Warriors is the same thing.

I'm strictly an AZ guy.

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[Mainstreet]

I have no love for the Warriors although Cotton Fitzsimmons and Don Nelson had some glorious shootouts back in the day when Nelson coached the Warriors.

 

[Cheesebeef]

A couple:

1. The Warriors backed out of the Curry trade when a promise was reportedly in place for Amare.

2. Steve Kerr was a bad GM for the Suns.

Steve Kerr was a bad GM for the Suns? He drafted Dragic and Lopez, both of which were good players and rebuilt the team into a title contender after DA left, adding JRich and Dudley in a complete steal of a deal, both of whom were key contributors to a team that got within 2 games of the Finals.

He definitely stumbled out of the gate with the Porter hire, but everything after that seemed to work pretty well and like a good GM, he fired Porter immediately when it was apparent it wasn't working when he could have been super stubborn.

 

[Mainstreet]

Aaaaaahhhhh, I didn't know there was some blood with a trade. And Kerr was the GM then too? Sooo, he almost trades for Curry...it falls apart, then he ends up coaching them later when Steph became STEPH, and wins a title (and more coming).

Fair enough. I see it.

It goes something like that.

 

[Covert Rain]

Okay but when did I say it was just about money? Of course he went there to win a ring. I just disagreed with your statement that signing a 2 year contract proved he was making a "ring grab". The 2 year with an opt-out was a money based decision for the reason I mentioned and the one that Joe Mama pointed out above.

I didn't suggest that you said it was ONLY about money just like I never said that money wasn't a factor. However, we disagree on his primary reason.

By the way I also acknowledged you made a good point about the above maybe you missed it? However, signing with GSW still IMO says ring grab.

By the way just listened to Woj. He said that KD was only going to what he considered an immediate contender. Take that for what it is.

 

[Finito]

IM hardcore AZ Cardinals and Suns till the end but I have no bad blood with the Warriors. Heck they've been horrible for pretty much most of my life(34) didn't they have a 20 year stretch where they didn't make the playoffs. Nothing to hate.

The Spurs yes the Lakers yes but Warriors? No not at all.

I get the move and I dont. If Durant wants to play for you you pretty much have to take him. But you got rid of both your centers for more perimeter scoring? They needed rebounding defense and toughness and they got softer

 

[Mainstreet]

Steve Kerr was a bad GM for the Suns? He drafted Dragic and Lopez, both of which were good players and rebuilt the team into a title contender after DA left, adding JRich and Dudley in a complete steal of a deal, both of whom were key contributors to a team that got within 2 games of the Finals.

He definitely stumbled out of the gate with the Porter hire, but everything after that seemed to work pretty well and like a good GM, he fired Porter immediately when it was apparent it wasn't working when he could have been super stubborn.

The Kurt Thomas trade still sticks in my throat although Sarver deserves some blame as well pushing a new GM.

I give Kerr credit for pushing to draft Dragic. The Suns must have had a good foreign scout back then.

 

[Folster]

The Kurt Thomas trade still sticks in my throat although Sarver deserves some blame as well pushing a new GM.

This. Kerr should have told Sarver to kick rocks and resigned if Sarver forced that trade. No excuse because we could have dumped Kurt at the deadline to a contender and got some value in return. Giving up 2 unprotected picks in a salary dump before the season even began was inexcusable.

 

[slinslin]

Aaaaaahhhhh, I didn't know there was some blood with a trade. And Kerr was the GM then too? Sooo, he almost trades for Curry...it falls apart, then he ends up coaching them later when Steph became STEPH, and wins a title (and more coming).

Fair enough. I see it.

Besides Kerr they hired away several other front office employees of the Suns. Rick Welts for instance and wasn't David Griffin there for a while too?

 

[sunsfan88]

Sooo who exactly is gonna rebound and play defense in Oakland. There def gonna be fun to watch but scoring wasn't there problem

Igoudala, Green, and Thompson are 3 of the top defenders in the league. Green & Durant are also excellent rebounders for their positions. Plus they have Pachulia who is a very good rebounder too.

Not sure why they should have any issue with defense/rebounding.

 

[Russ Smith]

A couple:

1. The Warriors backed out of the Curry trade when a promise was reportedly in place for Amare.

2. Steve Kerr was a bad GM for the Suns.

Because they said their medical people advised them not to trust Amara

My dislike for the Warriors goes all the way back to Rick Berry.

Are you a 49er fan too.

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Which is ironic because lots of Warriors fans hated the Suns for years because of Ricky Sobers, who btw has admitted multiple times, that he was put into the game 6 to intentionally try and start a fight with Barry to get him ejected. it worked, Barry got ejected, the Suns won and the team with the best regular season record, the Warriors, went home.

So I do find it interesting that being smart enough to realizing trading the rights to Curry for a guy with a bad knee was a bad idea is grounds for hatred but the Sobers thing is apparently too old to count.

The NBA is cyclical, the Warriors aren't going to be good forever, they know this and they're trying to make it last as long as they can.

That's the point of the whole thing, you play to win the games.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Because they said their medical people advised them not to trust Amara



Which is ironic because lots of Warriors fans hated the Suns for years because of Ricky Sobers, who btw has admitted multiple times, that he was put into the game 6 to intentionally try and start a fight with Barry to get him ejected. it worked, Barry got ejected, the Suns won and the team with the best regular season record, the Warriors, went home.

So I do find it interesting that being smart enough to realizing trading the rights to Curry for a guy with a bad knee was a bad idea is grounds for hatred but the Sobers thing is apparently too old to count.

The NBA is cyclical, the Warriors aren't going to be good forever, they know this and they're trying to make it last as long as they can.

That's the point of the whole thing, you play to win the games.

My issues isn't really with the Warriors even though their antics in this year's playoffs made them a pretty detestable squad (Ayesha/Steph whining, Lacob acting like he invented basketball, Draymond's dirty play, etc). My issue is with KD. This would be a bitch move at the local YMCA 35+ league let alone the NBA. Jumping from his own team to a slightly better that he just lost to just says a lot about his character, heart, entitlement and a host of other things.

 

[Russ Smith]

My issues isn't really with the Warriors even though their antics in this year's playoffs made them a pretty detestable squad (Ayesha/Steph whining, Lacob acting like he invented basketball, Draymond's dirty play, etc). My issue is with KD. This would be a bitch move at the local YMCA 35+ league let alone the NBA. Jumping from his own team to a slightly better that he just lost to just says a lot about his character, heart, entitlement and a host of other things.

To me it says he wants to win and knows Westbrook is leaving so staying in OKC wasn't going to be the right long term move.

The goal is to win. he's grown up in an era where kids play on super HS prepschool teams, AAU squads. We have schools recruiting multiple All American one and done guys. LeBron started this NBA super team trend 6 years ago.

My only issue with what Durant did is 6 years ago he appeared to complain when LeBron did it, said what happened to competing. but I think he simply realized over the last 6 years even if OKC had a championship caliber team, they weren't going to be able to keep it.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

To me it says he wants to win and knows Westbrook is leaving so staying in OKC wasn't going to be the right long term move.

The goal is to win. he's grown up in an era where kids play on super HS prepschool teams, AAU squads. We have schools recruiting multiple All American one and done guys. LeBron started this NBA super team trend 6 years ago.

My only issue with what Durant did is 6 years ago he appeared to complain when LeBron did it, said what happened to competing. but I think he simply realized over the last 6 years even if OKC had a championship caliber team, they weren't going to be able to keep it.

Could have stayed another year and played on a team built to beat the Warriors then bolted with Russ and people would have understood since that team was being broken up. Not like he left a 25 win team behind.

Sorry but anyone who has played competitive sports at any level knows this was a bitch move. Winning is important I guess but respect amongst peers is a big part of one's legacy in any field. Durant won't get any from the rest of the NBA for this.

 

[Russ Smith]

Could have stayed another year and played on a team built to beat the Warriors then bolted with Russ and people would have understood since that team was being broken up. Not like he left a 25 win team behind.

Sorry but anyone who has played competitive sports at any level knows this was a bitch move. Winning is important I guess but respect amongst peers is a big part of one's legacy in any field. Durant won't get any from the rest of the NBA for this.

So signing a team of HS all americans is a bitch move too? Or just when an NBA guy makes a move that is designed to maximize his chances at winning titles.

Like it or not NBA players get judged on titles, Barkley's legacy is diminished because he never won one. I'm guessing he'll rip Durant for this but he knows himself that had he done the same thing and won a title, people would praise him for the title(s) now. Reggie Miller said the same thing yet I know people who know Miller and have personally heard him say he wished he hadn't spent his whole career with the Pacers he would have liked to play on a championship team just once and it's a major regret in his career.

Think about it, if OKC already knows Westbrook is leaving do you really think they're going to hold him the whole year even if Durant had stayed one more year? They would likely still try to deal him to get something in return. The team this year wasn't going to reach it's potential because everyone on the team would know it was going to be broken up at the end of the year if not earlier. He put in 8 years there that's more than LeBron ever did on one team I think he's earned the right to try and win.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Could have stayed another year and played on a team built to beat the Warriors then bolted with Russ and people would have understood since that team was being broken up. Not like he left a 25 win team behind.

Sorry but anyone who has played competitive sports at any level knows this was a bitch move. Winning is important I guess but respect amongst peers is a big part of one's legacy in any field. Durant won't get any from the rest of the NBA for this.

I doubt that. ESPN and the talking heads have made it all about the rings. Nobody wants to join the Barkley club, that embarrassment far exceeds any that might follow Durant for this decision. KD spent 9 years with that franchise and when it was time, he alone made a decision where to go. He didn't get together with a handful of other top players and decide to all go to the same place. He just listened to his suitors and chose the best option. How stupid would he have to be to say "yes I want to win but no, I don't want a real good chance at it".

 

[Southpaw]

So who is going to lose shots? They only allow 1 basketball on the court during the game.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

So who is going to lose shots? They only allow 1 basketball on the court during the game.

Curry could score 25, Durant 25, Klay 20, Green 15 and that only adds up to 85 points. They are likely to score somewhere around 115 points per game and thus it is quite possible that they could all have right around the same production they had last year.