Dwight Howard is a Laker

[D-Dogg]

Will the lakers be able to sign dwight to a long term deal?

Most likely. No team will be able to sign him for more money than the Lakers, and his shoe deal adds even more money on top of that for being in LA.

All the blather about him not signing an extension is just that, blather. He would be leaving something like $20 million on the table doing that. Playing out the contract and signing a new deal nets him a lot more money, and with his rights, nobody can pay him more than LA.

 

[D-Dogg]

It is hard to figure out why Houston wasn't the destination if the plan is to tank though. They have far better prospects available and could have taken on more bad contracts.

Exactly.

I'm pretty sure it's because they knew Dwight would not stay there after one season, and they wouldn't be winning anything with Dwight and Orlando West. I think it's highly likely that Houston was the team balking at their deals.

 

[SunsTzu]

I think it's highly likely that Houston was the team balking at their deals.

I seriously doubt it. The whole point of Houston's personnel decisions the past couple of years were specifically for this type of bold move.

 

[sunsfan88]

No, because I can guarantee they aren't going to come out before the season and dance around like clowns and predict "No 4, not 5, not 6, not 7..." like the boneheads in Miami did. So far "Miami's Big 3" has won one strike-shortened title. Um...big whoop.

What the hell does that mean?

Does that fact that they won it in a season shortened by the lockout mean that it was easier or something?

And the boneheads in Miami never demanded a trade while they were still under contract...but 2 of Los Angeles boneheads (Kobe & Dwight) did.

 

[D-Dogg]

What the hell does that mean?

Does that fact that they won it in a season shortened by the lockout mean that it was easier or something?

Yes, that's the point. Spurs title is similarly tainted. Short season and compacted schedule of the playoffs. There were back to backs in the PLAYOFFS for god's sake. Still, takes nothing away but it is a footnote.

And the boneheads in Miami never demanded a trade while they were still under contract...but 2 of Los Angeles boneheads (Kobe & Dwight) did.

And the Lakers aren't holding a Decision press conference or holding a not-1, not-2, not-3, not-4, not-5, not-6, not-7 pyrotechnic self masturbation show before they even step onto a practice court together. Let's not "what these guys did" with the Lakers and Miami, kay?

 

[Gee!]

Kobe will never be Mike Jordan.. He needs a lot of help to win titles.. He now has a two time MVP, a defensive MVP center, Another 7 footer in Gasol.. Kobe needs all star teams around him just to give him a shot..

I'm so tired of the NBA .. Players bitching and moaning to get traded.. And the Lakers getting every damn player in the world for next to nothing..

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yes, that's the point. Spurs title is similarly tainted. Short season and compacted schedule of the playoffs. There were back to backs in the PLAYOFFS for god's sake. Still, takes nothing away but it is a footnote.



And the Lakers aren't holding a Decision press conference or holding a not-1, not-2, not-3, not-4, not-5, not-6, not-7 pyrotechnic self masturbation show before they even step onto a practice court together. Let's not "what these guys did" with the Lakers and Miami, kay?

I hate em both. Howard is self-absorbed manipulative, Kobe is, well, a rapist. The Lakers get players handed to them for practically nothing.

The Miami (not 1, not 2, etc) press conference was one of the most obnoxious classless things I have ever seen in sports.

A pox on both their houses. Yes, I wish them injury, I pray for it. I would love nothing more than to see LeBron, Kobe, and Howard all limp around for life. They are exactly what is wrong with the NBA.

There. Got that little rant out of my system.

 

[Covert Rain]

Yes, that's the point. Spurs title is similarly tainted. Short season and compacted schedule of the playoffs. There were back to backs in the PLAYOFFS for god's sake. Still, takes nothing away but it is a footnote.

Ohhhh....you mean like the footnote a team should get for getting a player in what many consider a back door deal, that would raise eyebrows and lead to a title.

UNDERSTOOD!

 

[D-Dogg]

The Lakers get players handed to them for practically nothing.

In this deal, at least, they gave up the second best center in the league for the best one. Not nothing there.

 

[D-Dogg]

Ohhhh....you mean like the footnote a team should get for getting a player in what many consider a back door deal, that would raise eyebrows and lead to a title.

UNDERSTOOD!

No, that's whining. The other is legitimately shortened seasons that can be measured with, you know, math.

 

[JCSunsfan]

In this deal, at least, they gave up the second best center in the league for the best one. Not nothing there.

Bynum is the second best center in the league in 1 out 3 games. The gap is huge.

 

[KloD]

No, that's whining. The other is legitimately shortened seasons that can be measured with, you know, math.

You mean a season in which all teams played the same number of games? A season in which it's length gave no team advantage of the others? That deserves a footnote, but not one (or many of them) in which L.A. recieved top players in lopsided deals therefore having a clear advantage over all other teams? Please.... only a Laker fanboy can come up with that logic.

It must have been tough picking the Lakers as your team. I didn't realize you and Brian were from L.A.? What championship year did you hop on the wagon?

All Laker fans should have a footnote.

 

[Covert Rain]

No, that's whining. The other is legitimately shortened seasons that can be measured with, you know, math.

Changing your roster significantly to shore up on of the biggest weaknesses of the team and fundamentally shift power back to the Lakers....is whining?!?

LOL. Only from a Laker fan. I think you should do the math. No Gasol....no more titles for the Lakers.

Also, speaking of math...there is no empirical evidence to support the position that in a shorten season the outcome would have been any different. If anything it would simply increase the odds of an injury with a higher number of games.

 

[D-Dogg]

You mean a season in which all teams played the same number of games? A season in which it's length gave no team advantage of the others? That deserves a footnote, but not one (or many of them) in which L.A. recieved top players in lopsided deals therefore having a clear advantage over all other teams? Please.... only a Laker fanboy can come up with that logic.

It must have been tough picking the Lakers as your team. I didn't realize you and Brian were from L.A.? What championship year did you hop on the wagon?

All Laker fans should have a footnote.

Footnote: Donald's earliest Lakerfan memories were from 1980, when he was a 7 year old tiny hobo child living in Nebraska. Also being that his family is from Long Beach and some still reside in Anaheim & Orange, being a Laker fan isn't shocking.

 

[D-Dogg]

No Gasol....no more titles for the Lakers.

Good thing we still have him, then.

Also, speaking of math...there is no empirical evidence to support the position that in a shorten season the outcome would have been any different. If anything it would simply increase the odds of an injury with a higher number of games.

It changes the energy of teams playing back to back to backs, and several games each week, which affects older teams more than younger, and can alter such things as playoff seeds. It can also contribute to poor conditioning and injury potential. Just to play devil's advocate, since I really don't give a squat.

 

[D-Dogg]

but not one (or many of them) in which L.A. recieved top players in lopsided deals therefore having a clear advantage over all other teams? Please.... only a Laker fanboy can come up with that logic.

These lopsided deals - so they are done becasue other GMs love LA and want us to win and be awesome?

Or maybe it's because we win at the GM game too?

 

[KloD]

These lopsided deals - so they are done becasue other GMs love LA and want us to win and be awesome?

Or maybe it's because we win at the GM game too?

There was a time I thought L.A. must have a brilliant front office, now I'm older, mature, and realize there's just a percentage of GM's out there so pathetically stupid they make make L.A.'s average front office look good.

What's with the "we"? I was unaware you played a role on the team?
Talking trash to fans of other teams doesn't count (I've been doing it for years and the Suns still suck) or bragging about the Lakers accomplishments (footnotes aside) doesn't make them your accomplishments now does it?

 

[D-Dogg]

There was a time I thought L.A. must have a brilliant front office, now I'm older, mature, and realize there's just a percentage of GM's out there so pathetically stupid they make make L.A.'s average front office look good.

What's with the "we"? I was unaware you played a role on the team?
Talking trash to fans of other teams doesn't count (I've been doing it for years and the Suns still suck) or bragging about the Lakers accomplishments (footnotes aside) doesn't make them your accomplishments now does it?

I play the role of fan. I buy tickets and gear and line Dr. Buss' pockets with filthy lucre and stripper candy. I am one of the most important members of the team.

We are not just the guys that have a Laker logo on the paycheck. My role is awesome.

And yes, other GMs are very stupid. There's no denying that.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I didn't realize you and Brian were from L.A.? What championship year did you hop on the wagon?

I am from L.A. Born in Van Nuys in 1971. Been a fan ever since I was a kid in Reseda in the mid 70's. No need to hop on a bandwagon - it was my hometown team and the first sports team I ever followed.

 

[desertdawg]

I play the role of fan. I buy tickets and gear and line Dr. Buss' pockets with filthy lucre and stripper candy. I am one of the most important members of the team.

We are not just the guys that have a Laker logo on the paycheck. My role is awesome.

And yes, other GMs are very stupid. There's no denying that.

I am from L.A. Born in Van Nuys in 1971. Been a fan ever since I was a kid in Reseda in the mid 70's. No need to hop on a bandwagon - it was my hometown team and the first sports team I ever followed.

I'm kinda glad I aint a Faker fan, when I was a midget I rooted for them over the Celtics (while keeping my purple and orange loyalty), Magic was magic, one of my favorite players of all time. But the finacial obligations it would take to stay up with the jersies is crazy, think about how many bad asses have played in LA, then multiply that by $75.

75 sounds cool because they used to be cheaper, but cost more now. A true Fakers fan could easily buy 10 different jerseys every 10 years, that's some serious booty.

hashrulestag#GladImaSunsFan

 

[SunsTzu]

You can't be without consecutive 1st round picks and since the Lakers don't own any additional 1st round picks between 2015-2017 the only way the can guarantee to not go without consecutive picks is to have the 2015 pick unprotected.

The conditions of the 2015 were never released, only that it had minimal protection but there shouldn't be any protection now.

So now that enough time has passed for all the information to be released I checked the future draft details on realgm and I was correct that the 2015 pick is unprotected. However I did not realize all the conditions of the 2013 pick listed below(which I thought merely would be the lesser of the Lakers or Heat's pick).

The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed#ixzz29Wo6L8pY

Obviously there is little chance the Lakers will be in the lottery so the bolded likely won't matter, but I really have to commend the Suns for structuring that deal to account for a Laker collapse no matter how remote.

 

[slinslin]

I dont get that

Why does it say the Lakers 2013 pick is top 14 protected but later it says if it lottery we automatically get that one?

Also why does it say we get the least favorable but then we get the Lakers pick if it is lottery?

Do we get the highest or lowest pick among those?

Is Clevelands pick really unprotected?

Edit: Makes more sense when you read the Lakers obligation

2013 first round draft pick to Phoenix
The L.A. Lakers will send the least favorable of their own 1st round pick (top-14 protected), Cleveland's own 2013 1st round pick, Sacramento's own 1st round pick (top-13 protected) and Miami's 2013 1st round pick to Phoenix. If the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick is within the top-14 selections, Phoenix will automatically receive the L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick. [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012]

2013 first round draft pick to Cleveland
Cleveland has the right to swap the least favorable of their own 2013 1st round pick, Miami's own 2013 1st round pick (top-10 protected) and Sacramento's own 2013 1st round pick (top-13 protected) with the L.A. Lakers own 2013 first round pick (top-14 protected). If the L.A. Lakers own 2013 first round pick is #1-#14, then the L.A. Lakers' obligation to Cleveland shall be extinguished. [Cleveland-L.A. Lakers, 3/15/2012]