Earl Clark better start showing us something soon...

[slinslin]

Because this draft is looking like it could be the strongest in recent years..

You already got Griffin, Jennings, Lawson, Evans, Blair, T Williams, Casspi putting up good numbers already on a regular basis and Teague, Maynor, Flynn, Curry and DeRozan showing flashes as well.

I am sure I am missing some, but Earl better show us some more than those 10 minutes 1-5FG 1 rebounds 1 block 2 fouls games...

Else it will be only more proof that this management is not capable of drafting, as shown last year by taking Robin Lopez over DeAndre Jordan, Roy Hibbert, Courtney Lee, George Hill, Mareese Speights and a bunch of others who are doing better.


Well here is still hoping we will completely blow it up for some draft picks and young players before the deadline when we look mediocre and that Oklahoma will give back our pick by then as we won't be bad enough at that point for it to be really high and Oklahoma needing some veteran contributors to make a playoff push.

 

[slinslin]

PS: I still have faith in Clark he just needs to become a good shooter and most importantly he needs playing time, lots of it..

Afraid the Suns will be hard pressed to use the starters for 40mpg again to just stay in the playoff race and there will be no time to play the young guys and improve our future..

And the Suns must stay away from molding him into a system player for themselves, instead mold him into the best player he can be, which is probably a Lamar Odom type of player.

 

[carey]

Usually you're pretty level headed Slin. But... 8 preseason games and he needs to hurry up? =/

 

[slinslin]

Yes, because pre-season was his only chance to get some extended minutes and show us something.
Now what he showed is that Gentry must put him near the end of the bench in order to win as many games as possible.

i'll be shocked if Clark gets more than 15mpg for a long time.

More than a dozen of players from his draft class are putting up pre-season numbers, Clark has done nothing except showing us an impressive physique for a small forward.

The way he was doing interviews half asleep or high on drugs during summer league was kind of scary, hopefully it is just a mentality thing a la McGrady and won't keep him from reaching his potential.

 

[Roca Dolla]

i have no doubt he will show us his greatness

 

[krazyasiankid]

The way he was doing interviews half asleep or high on drugs during summer league was kind of scary, hopefully it is just a mentality thing a la McGrady and won't keep him from reaching his potential.

Myabe he is just a really shy person... You cant expect a "Dwight Howard" type of personality and confidence from a rookie.. Even Blake Griffin acted the same way after he was drafted during an interview.. Maybe someone spiked his drink with Valium...

My point is, maybe that's just the way he is.. it wont affect the way he plays basketball.

 

[carey]

My point is, maybe that's just the way he is.. it wont affect the way he plays basketball.

Possibly. It definitely can though so saying "won't" is a bit premature.

 

[krazyasiankid]

Possibly. It definitely can though so saying "won't" is a bit premature.

Its didnt affect T-Mac, even though he talked like a stoner at every interview... lol.. But yeah, maybe that's what screwed up his knees.. :S

 

[Mainstreet]

It seems like the idea of blowing up the Suns for draft picks is a bad idea since the Suns do not recognize NBA talent. Now trading for young talent, yes. IMO, the Suns FO is so inept I don't trust their judgment. I won't get down on Clark but thus far he has shown much less than I expected. Needless to say, the Suns flubbed last year's NBA draft big time with the selection of Lopez. I won't even speak further about the Suns selection of Tucker and Griffin and all the hype they gave Dragic. It speaks for itself.

 

[binkar]

This is a bit premature, but I see where your coming from. However, I don't think Clark has been awful this preseason. Offensively he hasn't been impressive at all, but he has defended really well and that will get him a few minutes on this team. He has a long way to go offensively, but you can see the ability is there. Being at the games you can really tell that the veterans are always staying in his ear to try and keep him confident.

Remember that numbers aren't everything. Put Tucker in for 20 minutes and he will give you 10+ points, that doesn't mean he is a great player.

That said, I expected a little more as well. However, that doesn't mean my confidence in him long term has changed.

 

[mojorizen7]

Yes, because pre-season was his only chance to get some extended minutes and show us something.

Which IMO is the root of the problem in the first place....instead we're getting another year of G.Hill and the garbage FA addition of C.Frye.

 

[green machine]

Guy a young project. Everyone agreed that he has work to do, but can be a solid defender right now. To expect him to come in and score points in the Suns' system is a bit unfair. And, let's see how these preseason heroes perform against the big boys once the games start to count.

 

[krazyasiankid]

Which IMO is the root of the problem in the first place....instead we're getting another year of G.Hill and the garbage FA addition of C.Frye.

Garbage?? Frye is GOLD compared to Lopez... But yeah, I see your point.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Garbage?? Frye is GOLD compared to Lopez... But yeah, I see your point.

I don't see his point. Frye is great value anyway you cut it, IMO. If we'd had to play Clark major minutes this team would not be competitive and come the trade deadline we might well be unloading talent at bargain rates. I look forward to the day when Clark has earned a starting role and Frye is relegated to the middle of the bench (where he belongs) but Earl is a long way from that right now. Some will argue that he needs playing time to develop but I think the cost of that development would be too great. He needs to fill out and learn to shoot and neither of those requires much game time.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't see his point. Frye is great value anyway you cut it, IMO. If we'd had to play Clark major minutes this team would not be competitive and come the trade deadline we might well be unloading talent at bargain rates. I look forward to the day when Clark has earned a starting role and Frye is relegated to the middle of the bench (where he belongs) but Earl is a long way from that right now. Some will argue that he needs playing time to develop but I think the cost of that development would be too great. He needs to fill out and learn to shoot and neither of those requires much game time.

Steve

Yes, Frye is great value for the money if we were talking about a role player off the bench. However he is penciled in as the Suns starting center. Clark is a forward and not meant to play center although it probably doesn't matter to the Suns.

 

[krazyasiankid]

I don't see his point. Frye is great value anyway you cut it, IMO. If we'd had to play Clark major minutes this team would not be competitive and come the trade deadline we might well be unloading talent at bargain rates. I look forward to the day when Clark has earned a starting role and Frye is relegated to the middle of the bench (where he belongs) but Earl is a long way from that right now. Some will argue that he needs playing time to develop but I think the cost of that development would be too great. He needs to fill out and learn to shoot and neither of those requires much game time.

Steve

I gotta disagree with you there. The Suns have nothing to lose this season; they are not competing for a chamionship. But if Clark gets decent minutes, i would be happy. Experience on the court is invaluable, and i'ld rather sacrifice a few(or more) wins this season if Clark gets 25-30+ minutes a game for experience.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I gotta disagree with you there. The Suns have nothing to lose this season; they are not competing for a chamionship. But if Clark gets decent minutes, i would be happy. Experience on the court is invaluable, and i'ld rather sacrifice a few(or more) wins this season if Clark gets 25-30+ minutes a game for experience.

Well, you have obvious financial issues if this team plays poorly as it will be reflected in attendance and the bottom line. That can't be good for the franchise short term or long term. Additionally, if we are not competitive this season there's a fair chance that we'll have to salvage something by a mid-season trade of Stoudemire and his trade value would not be enhanced by another poor team performance.

Clark is an excellent athlete but he was inconsistent in college (often accused of disappearing for long stretches) and gifting those kind of minutes without performance based reasons doesn't send the right message, IMO. And again I'll point out that much of what he needs to improve does not require game time to accomplish.

Steve

 

[Covert Rain]

Yes, Frye is great value for the money if we were talking about a role player off the bench. However he is penciled in as the Suns starting center. Clark is a forward and not meant to play center although it probably doesn't matter to the Suns.

+1