ESPN analyst rips Cardinals' Hall, says Fitzgerald likely to leave

[mrbyte]

If bad turns to bad, we need to trade Fitz ASAP. The Patriots are in need of an elite WR and have the Raiders draft pick. Next years WR draft class is probably the most stacked in recent history and if this team ends up with either Michael Floyd or Julio Jones than the damage could be undone by a lot.

I believe theres a no trade clause in Fitzs contract, so either we extend him or we lose him

 

[Shane]

It's not a crazy proposition.

Fitz has a year and a half under contract. To worry about such things now is just plain silly.

We have ZERO clue who will be under center as early as next season.

You all are having a coronary and making huge leaps in judgement with pretty much zero cause.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

In 2011 New England has two first round picks, two seconds, two thirds and two fourth round selections. I'll take one of each for Fitz...

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Fitz has a year and a half under contract. To worry about such things now is just plain silly.

We have ZERO clue who will be under center as early as next season.

You all are having a coronary and making huge leaps in judgement with pretty much zero cause.

Thank you, Shane.

Sometime I think people just go looking for things to worry about.

 

[mrbyte]

Thank you, Shane.

Sometime I think people just go looking for things to worry about.

You're right....anyway doesn't the world end in 2012??

 

[DemsMyBoys]

You're right....anyway doesn't the world end in 2012??

According to what I've been reading on here, it ends Sunday night if we loose to TB.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I think we all know that Fitz wont re-sign if our offense is headed by terrible QB's. Fitz wants to win and have a chance to win; who can blame him for that?

 

[JeffGollin]

All due respect to Jaws and others, but if I paid attention to what the so-called experts were saying about the Cardinals over the past 2 or 3 years, I'd give up football altogether and go fishing instead.

In doing so, I'd have missed two playoff runs and near Super Bowl win.

Jaws may be accurate in what he says, but remember: it's just talk - i.e. "what somebody said" and not what actually will happen on the field or in the offseason.

For that, we'll just have to stay tuned. Maybe it will be ugly, but I'd rather see how things roll out in real life than get all riled up over what some dude said.

 

[Russ Smith]

AND a no trade clause. He has the best contract conditions in the NFL.

I think he can approve the trade it doesn't mean he can't be traded, just has to approve it.

 

[Russ Smith]

All due respect to Jaws and others, but if I paid attention to what the so-called experts were saying about the Cardinals over the past 2 or 3 years, I'd give up football altogether and go fishing instead.

In doing so, I'd have missed two playoff runs and near Super Bowl win.

Jaws may be accurate in what he says, but remember: it's just talk - i.e. "what somebody said" and not what actually will happen on the field or in the offseason.

For that, we'll just have to stay tuned. Maybe it will be ugly, but I'd rather see how things roll out in real life than get all riled up over what some dude said.

When Jaws was doing our preseason game I think it was reasonable to believe he actually watched tape on us and was speaking from what he'd seen.

Last I checked he hasn't done any of our regular season games. I'm not saying he hasn't seem some of Hall's bad play but I would bet he hasn't watched tape of both starts, why would he? I would also point out if he had watched tape of us, he wouldn't be saying this "they don't want to be out there lead blocking for power sweeps and stretch running plays. They want to catch some balls." Because saying that implies he thinks the Cards are running too much and anybody who REALLY watches the Cards would know it's the exact opposite, we're not running ENOUGH, we're throwing too much.

 

[desertdawg]

When Jaws was doing our preseason game I think it was reasonable to believe he actually watched tape on us and was speaking from what he'd seen.

Last I checked he hasn't done any of our regular season games. I'm not saying he hasn't seem some of Hall's bad play but I would bet he hasn't watched tape of both starts, why would he? I would also point out if he had watched tape of us, he wouldn't be saying this "they don't want to be out there lead blocking for power sweeps and stretch running plays. They want to catch some balls." Because saying that implies he thinks the Cards are running too much and anybody who REALLY watches the Cards would know it's the exact opposite, we're not running ENOUGH, we're throwing too much.

Jaws sounds like he is on that purple drank.

 

[CardLogic]

...anyway doesn't the world end in 2012??

Before or after the 2012 NFL regular season?

 

[joeshmo]

The FO almost always drops the ball on their own FA players because of their slow reaction time.

Re-signed their top soon to be free agents the last 3 years in a row now - Wilson, Warner, Dockett. I fully expect the same to happen with Fitz. If you are a Wiz guy and Fitz is a Wiz guy, Wiz will take care of you.

I know they are slow to react but when people use the words "almost always" its just rhetoric not based on facts.

 

[joeshmo]

Fitz has a year and a half under contract. To worry about such things now is just plain silly.

We have ZERO clue who will be under center as early as next season.

You all are having a coronary and making huge leaps in judgement with pretty much zero cause.

I dont get it either. Remember the hand wringing over Warner, people talking as if he was already 100% gone last year. The hand wringing over Docket as if we were never going to get him re-signed no matter what. The hand wringing about Wiz not getting an extension and never would. Happens all the time we get upset about something that can POSSIBLY be a negative two years in advance.

 

[Stout]

Fitz has a year and a half under contract. To worry about such things now is just plain silly.

We have ZERO clue who will be under center as early as next season.

You all are having a coronary and making huge leaps in judgement with pretty much zero cause.

I'm not worrying about it yet, of course not. Talking about the possibility and going crazy over the possibility are two different things. If we don't properly address the position in the offseason, I'll sure in the heck start worrying about it, though.

 

[Jersey Girl]

I've been saying it whenever people ask me about our QB situation at work. If we don't get the QB position stabilized by next season, Fitz is gone. No ifs, ands or buts.

I've been saying the same when talking to football fans back home and at work for about two weeks now. I don't need ESPN to tell me what might happen.

I didn't read the article and its existance has no bearing on what I think. I've been talking about this at work for several weeks now. If we don't get a decent QB next year, I think he's gone. It's not a crazy proposition.

Ditto.

I'm not worrying about it yet, of course not. Talking about the possibility and going crazy over the possibility are two different things. If we don't properly address the position in the offseason, I'll sure in the heck start worrying about it, though.

And ditto again. You and I are on the same wave length, my friend.

 

[Mitch]

As much as Hall's performance last week was disappointing...for ANYONE to write him off after 2 starts is just plain myopic.

Ron Jaworski himself should know better than anyone. Here were his stats over his first three years in the league, which included three starts:

54/124 43% 739 5.9 yds./att 1 TD 8 ints.

Not sure if any pundits were jumping on his bandwagon at that point.

Sure, we see that Hall lacks proto-typical QB size and arm strength. But, his strengths are supposed to be accuracy, timing, escapability and grittiness. We have already seen flashes of all of those attributes.

Could he have completed the long pass to Fitz last week? Of course, he could have...he had plenty on it, it was thrown too wide to the left.

At this point, no one can possibly know whether Hall can start in this league or not.

I think the bye week hurt Hall because he had too much time to think. I think he over-prepared. There is such a thing.

Whiz is right to simplify the game plan this week...and work diligently on a couple of handfuls of passing plays, so as to perfect the timing and the progressions.

What concerns me the most and I think most of you agree---which is why I thought Whiz--after last week's concussion---would go back to DA---is Hall's ability to hang in there physically.

Once he gets up to the speed of the game, I think he will be crafty enough to feel the pressure sooner and to duck the big hits. Right now he's so locked into his reads that he's not sensing the pressure the way he should or the way he did in the pre-season. This is the key to his game, imo. He can think fast on his feet, and he's slippery.

If Hall were as under-skilled as Jaws makes him out to be, he would have never made the impression he did this TC. And the impression he made wasn't just on Whiz and the staff...it was made on several national reporters who visited camp.

If anything all the odds were stacked against Hall in TC. He rose from obscurity and persevered for a reason. What he needs now is to get himself accustomed to the speed of the game, and to heighten his awareness. His instincts will kick in at some point, as long as he keeps his head up and avoids the big hits.

 

[DieHardCardFan]

As much as Hall's performance last week was disappointing...for ANYONE to write him off after 2 starts is just plain myopic.

Ron Jaworski himself should know better than anyone. Here were his stats over his first three years in the league, which included three starts:

54/124 43% 739 5.9 yds./att 1 TD 8 ints.

Not sure if any pundits were jumping on his bandwagon at that point.

Sure, we see that Hall lacks proto-typical QB size and arm strength. But, his strengths are supposed to be accuracy, timing, escapability and grittiness. We have already seen flashes of all of those attributes.

Could he have completed the long pass to Fitz last week? Of course, he could have...he had plenty on it, it was thrown too wide to the left.

At this point, no one can possibly know whether Hall can start in this league or not.

I think the bye week hurt Hall because he had too much time to think. I think he over-prepared. There is such a thing.

Whiz is right to simplify the game plan this week...and work diligently on a couple of handfuls of passing plays, so as to perfect the timing and the progressions.

What concerns me the most and I think most of you agree---which is why I thought Whiz--after last week's concussion---would go back to DA---is Hall's ability to hang in there physically.

Once he gets up to the speed of the game, I think he will be crafty enough to feel the pressure sooner and to duck the big hits. Right now he's so locked into his reads that he's not sensing the pressure the way he should or the way he did in the pre-season. This is the key to his game, imo. He can think fast on his feet, and he's slippery.

If Hall were as under-skilled as Jaws makes him out to be, he would have never made the impression he did this TC. And the impression he made wasn't just on Whiz and the staff...it was made on several national reporters who visited camp.

If anything all the odds were stacked against Hall in TC. He rose from obscurity and persevered for a reason. What he needs now is to get himself accustomed to the speed of the game, and to heighten his awareness. His instincts will kick in at some point, as long as he keeps his head up and avoids the big hits.

Great Post!!!!

 

[Renz]

Jaws was the biggest Jay Cutler jocker out there a few years ago and we all know how Cutler's career has tanked. I wouldn't take Jaworski's opinion of Hall as gospel just yet.

 

[Catfish]

I refrained from commenting on this article until today. I had NOT read the article until today-----and I will say, that having read it, that Jaworski is dead wrong with his early statement of 'Anderson giving the Cards the best chance to win'. That alone tells me that he has NOT followed the team enough to know that in his 4 starts, Anderson was totally inept as a QB. Even his 2 performances in relief of Hall have been mostly dismal.

I respect Jaworksi's analysis on those things he knows, BUT he obviously does not know Cardinal football. I shall refrain from giving his comments on this matter ANY credence until he makes himself informed on Andersons performances to date.

Might Anderson at some point become 'that guy' that Jaworski was speaking of-----certainly he might-----but until he shows that he IS that guy, I choose to believe otherwise, and as of now, he has shown nothing of the sort.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Jaworski rips Hall..........

http://www.ktar.com/resources/audio_headlines/segment_player.php?a=7883

Doug and Wolf (KTAR) just played a sound clip with Larry responding to this. Tried to grab a pen and this isn't an exact quote but here's what I got:

"I think it's a bit unfair for Jaws to say that. Hall is a rookie and has only played in three games and you have to give him a chance."

Maybe someone can find out what else Fitz said? I think what he says is a whole lot more important than all the speculation on Jaws' part.

BTW: Fitz is no dummy. Love the "bit unfair" line. Not "Jaws is an idiot and I'm sick and tired of people spouting off on what they think I think."

 

[kerouac9]

Doug and Wolf (KTAR) just played a sound clip with Larry responding to this. Tried to grab a pen and this isn't an exact quote but here's what I got:

"I think it's a bit unfair for Jaws to say that. Hall is a rookie and has only played in three games and you have to give him a chance."

Maybe someone can find out what else Fitz said? I think what he says is a whole lot more important than all the speculation on Jaws' part.

BTW: Fitz is no dummy. Love the "bit unfair" line. Not "Jaws is an idiot and I'm sick and tired of people spouting off on what they think I think."

I'm sure that Fitz would be singing a different tune if he didn't catch two touchdowns last week. Notice that he didn't come to Hall's defense when he'd gone 9 quarters without scoring an offensive touchdown, and Fitz was 0-for-October in finding the end zone.

Fitz certainly looked a lot happier in interviews after this loss than he looked after--say, the Saints game.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

I'm sure that Fitz would be singing a different tune if he didn't catch two touchdowns last week. Notice that he didn't come to Hall's defense when he'd gone 9 quarters without scoring an offensive touchdown, and Fitz was 0-for-October in finding the end zone.

Fitz certainly looked a lot happier in interviews after this loss than he looked after--say, the Saints game.

Funny how Fitz never came out and stood up for your boy ML during the preseason either....hmmmm

 

[kerouac9]

Funny how Fitz never came out and stood up for your boy ML during the preseason either....hmmmm

Okay... what does that have to do with anything?

 

[Duckjake]

Funny how Fitz never came out and stood up for your boy ML during the preseason either....hmmmm

Well how many TD passes did Fitz catch from ML in preseason?

BTW: I saw our QB miss Fitz way out in front on the exact same pattern that people claim Leinart caused Fitz to get injured. Must have thrown the ball 5 yards wide of Larry.