ESPN Insider Rumor Central: Nene to Suns?

[slinslin]

I'd rather have Kwame Brown than Dalembert. I'd also rather have Curry than Dalembert I think.
Between Chandler and Brown it would be a tough choice.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'd rather have Kwame Brown than Dalembert. I'd also rather have Curry than Dalembert I think.
Between Chandler and Brown it would be a tough choice.

I think Curry would be a bad fit. The Chicago Tribune is suggesting a Chandler for Abdur-Rahim swap. Would it take that much to get Chandler?

Our easily expendable trade parts are: Jacobsen, Zarko, Vroman, Tabuse, Jake, rights to Milos, Lampe, and the Chicago pick.

Trading any other parts is impractical because they are recent FA's (Bo, Hunter, Q) and/or disruptive to chemistry.

It still looks like "no deal" might be the best deal.

edit: oops, I forgot to add Barbosa to that list of tradeable parts. I wouldn't mind dealing LB for the right part. But we'd need a backup pg in return.

 

[JS22]

No thanks!

Lets see what Hunter can do.

 

[Joe Mama]

What general manager in his right mind would trade a key component on a 14-3 team like JJ right now for Nene? I would be very disappointed if they did this. There's no way in hell I would trade him to Denver. Even though they have struggled so far this season as a team that the Phoenix Suns will be competing with for playoff spots, positions for the next several years.

Joe Mama

 

[F-Dog]

Yeah, there's no way the Suns trade for Nene until after the season. The team still needs to figure out what they've got in Joe J and Q, and they're not going to mess with their chemistry by making a major morale-killing trade in the middle of a long winning streak.


I would still love to see Nene starting at center for the Suns, though. He's got all of the things that the Suns really need in a center--the athleticism to run, powerful post defense, box-out skills and a mid-range jumper. The Suns already have a couple of starters who can block shots and chase rebounds.

I'd probably take Dalembert first, but I'd rather have Nene than Tyson Chandler. Chandler's back problems are a permanent issue, and his work ethic has left a lot to be desired (although his motor runs just fine, which gives him a leg up on Eddy Curry IMO).

 

[CHAPTER 7]

Isn't JJ's trade speculation because of his contract situation? If he wants a huge contract, he will probably get offered by a team that Suns cannot match because Amare is most likely max out the $. Suns are doing so great and don't want to break this chemistry but cap is always an issue. Suns might be forced to trade even though they don't want to.

 

[scudney]

The only way Denver deals Nene is if they get back a very good SG. So unless we trade JJ or Q, there is no way they would make a deal with us.

Magloire is at the top of my center list. Maybe if the Hornets continue to struggle, they will start trading some players and start rebuilding closer to the trading dealine. The chicago pick then might be very enticing for them. I doubt they would trade him though.

 

[slinslin]

Nene is a very poor rebounder and shotblocker. Not exactly things I'd hope for in a center.

He isn't nearly as tall as Chandler either and his outside shot is no better than Chandler.

Defensively Chandler is much better than Nene.

Nene might very well be the most overrated big man prospect in the league.

 

[cepstrum]

Leep JJ. Keep Q. I honestly think something can be worked out with philly regarding dalembert. His stock is lower right now because he isnt being played and he's in the doghouse. Man, I watched a few of his games at the end of last year and I was soooooo impressed. The guy is taylor made for Phoenix Suns basketball.

 

[playstation]

meanwhile, later on in that same insider article:

Phoenix Suns: Speaking of fast-break teams, you've got to love how the Suns are sharing the love this year. Two weeks ago Amare Stoudemire was the NBA player of the Week. Last week Shawn Marion took home the honors. A few days later, Steve Nash was name Western Conference Player of the Month.

This week it was Quentin Richardson's turn to show off. For the week he averaged 22 ppg, including a huge 37-point performance against the Blazers on Sunday, when he hit 8-of-12 from beyond the 3-point line.

After a slow start, Richardson seems like he's finally fitting in to the system. That could pose a big dilemma for the Suns over the next few weeks. They are being flooded with trade calls from teams asking about both Richardson and Johnson.

If they could get a young, athletic center in return, they'd be tempted. But ...

"I'd really hesitate to do anything right now," GM Bryan Colangelo told Insider. "We are playing so well right now. There's something to be said for continuity and chemistry. I don't want to do anything to mess that up."

With the way his team is playing right now, Colangelo may have no choice but to stand pat and let the run-and-gun Suns continue to do their thing.

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nobody gets traded as long as the suns keep winning. if someone gets injured or they all of a sudden lose their mojo, then things change. as of right now, there's no way you change anything.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

but I'd rather have Nene than Tyson Chandler. Chandler's back problems are a permanent issue, and his work ethic has left a lot to be desired

That is very far from the truth.

The general consensus on Chandler and Curry is this (is has been this way from pre draft and held up to be current)

Curry has all the skills to be great, just no motivation

Chandler lacks skills, especially offensive, but has the work ethic GMs love.


Before this past summer, Nene's work ethic was much closer to Curry than Chandler. I agree with the back issue, which is why a deal would have to be carefully constructed so we don't loose to much. I seriously see him as this age's Marcus Camby. All the way down to the injury problems.


I really liked Dalmebert. I was pumping him up this season a ton, only to be let down by lack of PT. I really don't know what Obie is doing here.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

What's laughable is the notion that anyone in the NBA wants Casey Jacobsen, a supposed long-range threat who can't hit from long range or play D, or Lampe, a big man who can't get playing time on a team with few big men.

The Suns have two pieces to deal with right now, JJ and the Chicago pick.

 

[sunsfn]

I have said before and will say it again, Nene will not be the center on the team that wins the NBA championship.

He may be the back-up, but he is not big (tall) enough to be there for a champion caliber team.

Hunter can block 2-3 shots in a row almost without jumping, Nene is not tall enough to do that, if the suns are going to trade JJ or Q, they are going to get more than Nene.
JJ & Q are close (another year) from potentially being all-stars, Nene is not.

I agree with some of you that I would like to see the suns get Dalembert.

 

[asudevil83]

the way i see it, we've only got a couple of options if we are serious about winning a championship, and if you want to look at the longterm financial interests of the suns at the same time.

1.) we keep JJ and Q, and leave the team they way it looks. we'd resign JJ, and then Amare when the time comes....and be over the cap for a good long time. we'd then have to bank on Hunter turning out to be THE GUY for us at the center position, and still hope that we can resign him in the offseason.

2.) or...we dump either one or the other in a trade for a center that we can resign when the time comes. Q and Chi's pick go quite well with Magloire....while JJ and someone else go quite well with Dalembert and someone else. maybe something like JJ/Vosk/a future first for Dalember/Green.

 

[jibikao]

I don't think Shooting Guard is our biggest problem right now. We CAN shoot the ball and we can run the offense. Our biggest problem is defense.

Constantly trading is not a good thing. Look at Mavs! For the past 2 years, their starting lineup has changed so much. From Nick Van to Walker and Jamison to Stackhouse, Jason Terry. You have to let the players play together for a while in order to make that decision. Jamison and Walker have to go because they were eating up Dirk's shots. Dirk is clearly much better than those two and they can't make Dirk a center because he is not one.

Anyway, I think Suns' shooting guard position is fine.

Jimmy

 

[Cheesebeef]

What's laughable is the notion that anyone in the NBA wants Casey Jacobsen, a supposed long-range threat who can't hit from long range or play D, or Lampe, a big man who can't get playing time on a team with few big men.

The Suns have two pieces to deal with right now, JJ and the Chicago pick.

it scares me sometimes how much we think alike - some tiems I even believe you are me and Ouchie's third brother who just won't admit to us that he posts here.

Casey Jacobsen in a trade could get us two things - jack and squat.

 

[coloradosun]

"I'd really hesitate to do anything right now," GM Bryan Colangelo told Insider. "We are playing so well right now. There's something to be said for continuity and chemistry. I don't want to do anything to mess that up."


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I think this sayes it all. I do think the reason CJ is getting a lot of clock is to make him more tradeable though. I would rather see Barbosa getting a lot of time at the 2 instead of Jacobsen.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

it scares me sometimes how much we think alike - some tiems I even believe you are me and Ouchie's third brother who just won't admit to us that he posts here.

Casey Jacobsen in a trade could get us two things - jack and squat.

Don't be too scared. I'm Catholic and a UofA fan. Jacobsen maybe could get us Jason Kopono straight up. Maybe.

 

[AmareFan]

I don't think Lampe will ever make it here.

He looks more like a PF than C to me and he can't defend. Lampe might have some value to other teams that are rebuilding now.

As long as we keep our starters and Barbosa/Hunter I won't complain about any trade.

I agree, the starters are untouchable along with Barbosa and Hunter....everyone else is fair game....I will be disappointed if we trade any one of our starters but we do need to strengthen our bench. Please don't trade JJ or Q!

 

[devilalum]

This is not a rumor its Chad Ford's idiodic speculation.

Who here thinks that Ford has even stayed up to watch a single Suns game this season?

Anytime any ESPN "expert" says anything about the Suns it seems to be something I read in the Republic a few weeks ago.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

This is not a rumor its Chad Ford's idiodic speculation.

Who here thinks that Ford has even stayed up to watch a single Suns game this season?.

Am I missing something? The Suns will always be tied to athletic big men, and will be involved in all speculation since we have a surplus of good players at one position.

I didn't see anywhere where it was claimed there was a deal imminent. He even went on to put BCs quote in there.

 

[devilalum]

Am I missing something? The Suns will always be tied to athletic big men, and will be involved in all speculation since we have a surplus of good players at one position.

I didn't see anywhere where it was claimed there was a deal imminent. He even went on to put BCs quote in there.

The subject line for this thread says, "trade rumor"

I always think that this means some source said a trade is being discussed, not Chad Ford is hypothosizing.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

The subject line for this thread says, "trade rumor"

I always think that this means some source said a trade is being discussed, not Chad Ford is hypothosizing.

Ah, well in the article it is made pretty clear nothing is being discussed. Just that teams are flooding BC about trying to get Q or JJ. Also it mentions the Suns could have interest in Nene, although it would cost them Q or JJ, and they are not really willing to do that right now.

 

[George O'Brien]

I do not see the Suns trading away their core for backup players. Right now I think they are focused on finding support players for their key guys rather than breaking up the guys that put them at 14-3.

 

[PhxGametime]

Well I would have-to go to page 1 to see Trade Rumor again (lazy and computer sucks) but that is just horrible (I like Ford and my own Proposal's suck) but I wouldn't Trade JJ or Richardson for anything Nuggets have

I doubt I'd Trade JJ for Nene, Pick, and 3 Million Cash - let alone throwing in Maciej Lampe. If Suns threw in Lampe... I can live with Bulls Draft Pick, Casey Jacobsen, Drafts right to Milos Vujanic , Cash, and role player to make it work capwise... no core players please.


Richardson had the same amount of rebounds as Nene last year, Voskuhl had about the same amount of blocks - Nene put up decent AST and STL #'s for a big but I'd think JJ puts up better numbers in those area's, shoots better, defends better, etc... I wouldn't mind Nene on Suns team but not for JJ or Richardson.