Evan Turner Anyone?

[SirStefan32]

Turner for Walters would be perfect for those teams. One locker room headache for another. Turner probably deserves exile to Cleveland more than most.

I wouldn't want either of those toxic personalities in Phoenix.

Can you provide any evidence about Turner being a locker room headache?
I follow the Sixers quite a bit, and I am 99.9% certain you are talking out of your ass right now. Turner is quite well-liked by just about everyone around here.

He is not happy that Philli didn't even make an attempt to extend him, so he'd like to leave, but not once did I hear him say anything negative about his team, or even leadership, other than "No, we didn't even have one conversation about a possible extention" or something like that.

We can argue whether his skill set is adequate to be a second option on a contender, but to call him toxic, or a locker room headache is just beyong ridiculous.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Looked at Wikipedia and see that he was 6'9", 200 lbs and listed as a power forward. I didn't remember that he was that tall but I do remember him being skinny which the weight corroborates. Perry was there during the years of Mark West and Andrew Lang so I'd guess he played predominantly at PF for us but maybe not.

The way I remember it, West started most of the time for us and Perry was his backup. Lang played sparingly his first 3 or 4 years in Phoenix and if he was Mark's backup, West would have had to play 40+ minutes per game. You're right, Perry was too small to play center but I'm pretty sure that's what he did. He was a good leaper, had pretty good length and had a decent foundation but Mark was our banger and Tim was our backup the way I recall.

I just checked a few sites and the ones that break his career down all show him as a center his first 3 seasons and as a power forward for the rest of his career.

Steve

 

[BC867]

Mark was our banger and Tim was our backup the way I recall.

I just checked a few sites and the ones that break his career down all show him as a center his first 3 seasons and as a power forward for the rest of his career.

Steve

Tim Perry at 6'9"-200 was a Center on the Suns the same way Alvan Adams at 6'9"-212 and Joel Kramer at 6'7"-215 played Center. With pixie dust. We were Center-less with them on the floor.

Being better than they at Center is hardly the same as saying a good Center.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Tim Perry at 6'9"-200 was a Center on the Suns the same way Alvan Adams at 6'9"-212 and Joel Kramer at 6'7"-215 played Center. With pixie dust. We were Center-less with them on the floor.

Being better than they at Center is hardly the same as saying a good Center.

The difference being, Adams actually pulled it off. It might not have been ideal and all that banging really wore him down but he put up the numbers and we had some pretty good years. I wish you could go back in time and re-watch those early years, you seem to have forgotten a lot of details. We were a much better team when Adams was starting at center than we were with any of the other "true centers" we used back then. No, he couldn't match up with the best big men in the game but that was true for most centers. Comparing his stay at center to that of Perry's is way off, IMO.

Steve

 

[BC867]

The difference being, Adams actually pulled it off. It might not have been ideal and all that banging really wore him down but he put up the numbers and we had some pretty good years. I wish you could go back in time and re-watch those early years, you seem to have forgotten a lot of details. We were a much better team when Adams was starting at center than we were with any of the other "true centers" we used back then. No, he couldn't match up with the best big men in the game but that was true for most centers. Comparing his stay at center to that of Perry's is way off, IMO.

Steve

"Might not have been ideal . . . all that banging really wore him down . . . put up the numbers . . . pretty good years . . . couldn't match up."

Definitions of mediocrity, 50-and-fade, finesse basketball. Comparing Alvan at Center to the rest of the lightweights is, of course, not even. Adams got most of the minutes.

He was MacLeod's boy. MacLeod coached him in college. If only he had shifted Adams from Center to Forward after the novelty wore off the first season. The Suns legacy might not have been small ball for the decades that followed.

That is why I cringe when I hear Alvan Adams set as the statistical standard for a Suns Center -- 215 pounds or less.

Honestly, Steve. Those are the details I put my heart into as a fan. Watching Suns road games on TV, listening to home games on the radio and cheering my head off at the Madhouse on McDowell after my two sons and I stopped at the Original Hamburger Works at 12th Street and Thomas for dinner.

Now it's Majerle's. Oh, do I love their bacon cheeseburgers.

 

[PhxGametime]

Would anyone want Luol Deng?? For some reason I thought he was 30 when I made list of SF's awhile back and I'd worry that he's been playing too many minutes for Bulls, the last few years.

 

[95pro]

Deng is stepping up again for the bulls with rose out. I don't see them letting him go this year.

 

[jlove]

Not sure if the Turner trade rumors are about him being a problem. I think the Sixers are more interested in losing more to get a higher pick probability and/or obtaining more draft picks.

As far as the Suns are concerned, I'd kick the tires on him. I don't see him as a game changer. He's getting a lot of looks and mismatches because they aren't a great team.