Fantastic Four (reboot)

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I'm finding it extremely hard to believe that Marvel is sanctioning this movie--everything from the story to the casting appears to be upside down.
 

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I'm finding it extremely hard to believe that Marvel is sanctioning this movie--everything from the story to the casting appears to be upside down.

they're really not. Marvel has very little to zero control over FOX properties. Their name is on the picture, but they have almost nothing to do with it and in fact, have gone as far as CANCELLING the comic book because they don't give a crap about promoting it... at all. Kevin Feige IS Marvel and he's got zero ties to the movie. Same with X-men films and Spiderman.
 
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Mike Jordan and Kate Mara are a couple of my favorite young actors today. As such, I'm a bit more interested to see how Fox handles the IP.

I liked to teaser, especially it's tone.

I keep hoping that someone can make a good Marvel movie, that isn't rolled off the Disney conveyor belt. This might be it.

My biggest concern is that, by going younger and divergent from cannon, that it might end up in the same category as...well..Divergent, and every other tweeny movie adapted from a book (or comic in this case) that wasn't Hunger Games.
 

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mmmmm kate mara

makes me want to watch season one of house of cards again
 

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Why The Fantastic Four Cast Was Told Not To Read Comics

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Why-Fantastic-Four-Cast-Was-Told-Read-Comics-70324.html

While Marvel Comics’ distinguished dysfunctional team will see a film franchise reboot this summer in The Fantastic Four, a long-running point of contention among the fans seems to be the differing descriptions of just how much the new movie will adhere to elements of the comic book canon’s 50+ year history. Star Miles Teller may have rekindled the issue in a recent interview in which he implies that he and the cast were instructed not to delve too deep into the comic books since the film would not be going out of its way to resemble those materials.

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Bleh. Not very encouraging at all.

I hope the rights go back to Marvel soon.
 

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It'll be too late for Marvel to save it if it bombs again. I doubt they'd give it a second reboot.

I'm glad it's not Disney...the less with with Disney the better in my book!

The one thing you can count on with Disney is that every franchise they touch will go into their patented Formulaic Film Generator 3000.

I hope Fox and WB can make their franchises well enough to provide some health competition so that they all end up making better films.
 

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I'm glad it's not Disney...the less with with Disney the better in my book!

The one thing you can count on with Disney is that every franchise they touch will go into their patented Formulaic Film Generator 3000.

I hope Fox and WB can make their franchises well enough to provide some health competition so that they all end up making better films.

Examples?

And then some examples of what you'd consider "not Disney"?

I find it funny how you talk about formulaic films by Disney while thinking that Fox and WB won't follow a formula either.
 

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Examples?

Antagonist has an axe to grind with one of the protagonists, and wants revenge. The group of protagonists suffers from derision within the ranks, making it easier for the antagonist to take advantage of the group of protagonists...until the group of protagonists set aside their differences to defeat the antagonist and his/her army of non-humans in a massive, bloodless battle that destroys the city.

Is that Avengers 1, or Avengers 2?

And then some examples of what you'd consider "not Disney"?

I don't understand what you're asking here.

I find it funny how you talk about formulaic films by Disney while thinking that Fox and WB won't follow a formula either.

I'm glad I could bring a smile to your face. ;)

Please show me in my post where I said that neither Fox, nor WB, would make non-formulaic films? All I said was I'd like to see healthy competition so everyone's films would be better. Comic book movies have evolved into cinematic midway rides. You have your merry-go-rounds (Thor 1 & 2, and the first Captain America) and your mega-rollercoasters (Guardians of the Galaxy) but they are what they are.

Disney booting Edward Norton, emasculating Jon Favreau, and running off of Edgar Wright shows that it has no interest in having talented people make distinctive or exceptional films. It would rather have directors and writers that they can control to churn out what they know sells tickets.

Disney found it's formula with Iron Man, and learned not to veer away from it...especially with something unknown to modern moviegoers with their box office 9-11; John Carter.

Until Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier EVERY Marvel film from Disney (post-Iron Man) has been straight off the Disney conveyer belt. Even Guardians of the Galaxy loses luster after multiple viewings. The last two films were great departures from the nilla wafers that made up their Marvel franchise. Only time will tell if they continue to make films that build upon the previous iterations of their heroes, or if their just aberrations.
 

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Until Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier EVERY Marvel film from Disney (post-Iron Man) has been straight off the Disney conveyer belt. Even Guardians of the Galaxy loses luster after multiple viewings. The last two films were great departures from the nilla wafers that made up their Marvel franchise. Only time will tell if they continue to make films that build upon the previous iterations of their heroes, or if their just aberrations.

Wow, no. No, no, I cannot agree, not even a little bit. It's amazing to me how off the mark you come across. It's you're opinion, but I must vehemently disagree with you.
 

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Wow, no. No, no, I cannot agree, not even a little bit. It's amazing to me how off the mark you come across. It's you're opinion, but I must vehemently disagree with you.

Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier aside...would you put Disney's Marvel movies on par with Nolan's Batman trilogy as films of substance? Or are they more akin to the old Saturday serials, and just popcorn movies?
 

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Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier aside...would you put Disney's Marvel movies on par with Nolan's Batman trilogy as films of substance? Or are they more akin to the old Saturday serials, and just popcorn movies?

Considering Avengers demolished the Nolan Batman movie it was meant to be demolished by, yes. It's a very different kind of movie than TDK, but no less complete.
 

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Considering Avengers demolished the Nolan Batman movie it was meant to be demolished by, yes. It's a very different kind of movie than TDK, but no less complete.

Then it sounds like Disney is more than capable of resurrecting this franchise if this film bombs. ;)
 

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Disney booting Edward Norton,

Norton booted himself by failing to promote the Hulk movie because he got all butthurt because he wanted a more cerebral story and by stating he wouldn't have reprised his role for The Avengers even if they asked.
 

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Then it sounds like Disney is more than capable of resurrecting this franchise if this film bombs. ;)

It isn't a matter of ability, but number of time. Name me a property that's gotten a third reboot? Or one that's gotten a third reboot and been successful? If this one doesn't hit, I think it's done.
 

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It isn't a matter of ability, but number of time. Name me a property that's gotten a third reboot? Or one that's gotten a third reboot and been successful? If this one doesn't hit, I think it's done.

If this one fails a Disney takeover would be Fantastic Four's second reboot, not it's third.

Superman received a second reboot (Man of Steel) raked in a box office of $688 million worldwide, and did well enough to convince WB to plan a Disney-like multi-year release plan of their DC-universe of films.

Captain America has technically had two reboots...and I'm sure when Disney gets around to making a Mark Ruffalo Hulk movie (it's second reboot), and "assisting" Sony in making Spiderman's next reboot they'll do quite well.
 

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If this one fails a Disney takeover would be Fantastic Four's second reboot, not it's third.

Superman received a second reboot (Man of Steel) raked in a box office of $688 million worldwide, and did well enough to convince WB to plan a Disney-like multi-year release plan of their DC-universe of films.

Captain America has technically had two reboots...and I'm sure when Disney gets around to making a Mark Ruffalo Hulk movie (it's second reboot), and "assisting" Sony in making Spiderman's next reboot they'll do quite well.

D'oh, yes, I meant a second reboot. It could happen, but let's face it--FF isn't Hulk, Superman, or, if we want to stretch on what we consider reboots, Cap. If it tanks this time, I think it's done.
 

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saw the trailer today. I like what I have seen.... Ben Grimm,...melting into a pile of rock, then rematerializing?? nice...( not sure if I can explain it though.....might be over the top)

This one appears to have moved over to the more reality based look most hero movies are doing these days...I like that.
 

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I was mega skeptical about this but it looks pretty good.
 
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