Favre to be given a chance to compete

[Buckybird]

Nfl Network reported this afternoon that QB Brett Favre will compete with Rodgers for QB position. Brett is scheduled to be back with the Pack on Monday. I bet this a ploy to buy more time to unload the unhappy QB. If Favre does win the job, Aaron Rodgers has to be pissed.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

So in a sense......Farve is back with the Packers and will be starting this year.

I see Aaron Rogers demanding a trade next year.

 

[Shzm13]

Who the hell is Aaron Rodgers to demand anything?

Smartest decision GB could've made.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Who the hell is Aaron Rodgers to demand anything?

Smartest decision GB could've made.

agree. I don't get all the people that feel sorry for Rogers. What's he done other than slide on draft day?

 

[Stout]

Brat Farva can go suck it already. What he's basically telling the world, by trying to pull it off, is that he can simply wait until he absolutely feels like it, then walk in like Jesus walking on water and take what he wants. Up his! Green Bay should say, 'Oh, you're reporting to camp? Sure, we'll add you to the active roster...and immediately deactivate you like was done with Meshawn'. I am so sick and tired of him. You wanted to come back and play, Farva? Don't retire, turn around and say you think you want to come back, then decide you don't want to, then wait until the team has completely moved on, then decide you want to play, then play the whiny little girl and act all spoiled just to get your way. Enough is enough. Brett Farve is TO with better press.

 

[rtjim]

Brat Farva can go suck it already. What he's basically telling the world, by trying to pull it off, is that he can simply wait until he absolutely feels like it, then walk in like Jesus walking on water and take what he wants. Up his! Green Bay should say, 'Oh, you're reporting to camp? Sure, we'll add you to the active roster...and immediately deactivate you like was done with Meshawn'. I am so sick and tired of him. You wanted to come back and play, Farva? Don't retire, turn around and say you think you want to come back, then decide you don't want to, then wait until the team has completely moved on, then decide you want to play, then play the whiny little girl and act all spoiled just to get your way. Enough is enough. Brett Farve is TO with better press.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

agree with Stout

favre had his best year in a decade and they still fell short - rodgers is as good as gone if favre starts and favre will be sure to follow leaving GB in a nice mess - which on 2nd thought doesn't sound like a bad thing

 

[ajcardfan]

Good. Gives me a chance to see Favre in this position:

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[mjb21aztd]

Man poor Rodgers kid may never get a chance play in the nlf Favre probally could play till he is 50 if he had the option lol....

 

[Southpaw]

Brat Farva can go suck it already. What he's basically telling the world, by trying to pull it off, is that he can simply wait until he absolutely feels like it, then walk in like Jesus walking on water and take what he wants. Up his! Green Bay should say, 'Oh, you're reporting to camp? Sure, we'll add you to the active roster...and immediately deactivate you like was done with Meshawn'. I am so sick and tired of him. You wanted to come back and play, Farva? Don't retire, turn around and say you think you want to come back, then decide you don't want to, then wait until the team has completely moved on, then decide you want to play, then play the whiny little girl and act all spoiled just to get your way. Enough is enough. Brett Farve is TO with better press.

and the drama queen aka Brett Farva shows up in a private jet and is whisked away in his Escalade. How is this different than Ricky Williams in Miami? Methinks Brett is whackier than a crap house rat. An emotional jellyfish.

 

[TRW]

Any thread with a Yelberton Abraham Tittle picture is priceless!

Y.A. was a great, great QB. Wish today's players had half the cojones that dude and his contemporaries had.

Thanks for bringing back memories for me AJ

Anyway, I think Green Bay is more at fault than Favre. They did what they should have done from the beginning and just let him come back. Silly situation all around to me.

 

[Stout]

Any thread with a Yelberton Abraham Tittle picture is priceless!

Y.A. was a great, great QB. Wish today's players had half the cojones that dude and his contemporaries had.

Thanks for bringing back memories for me AJ

Anyway, I think Green Bay is more at fault than Favre. They did what they should have done from the beginning and just let him come back. Silly situation all around to me.

So, wait...Farva is allowed to retire. Okay, fine. Then he considers coming out of retirement, and the team tells him that'd be great, they haven't moved on, they haven't readjusted personnel or packages to Rodgers yet, come on back. He decides to stay retired. No problemo. Then they do go ahead and overhaul everything to focus on a different kind of QB, and at the 11th hour Farva suddenly wants to come back. You're saying, based solely on the man's ego and desire to have what he wants, Green Bay should just give it to him. Uh, NO! He putzed around until the team had given up on the idea of his return and had built away from it, and suddenly he wants his own way. Too bad!

 

[Pariah]

Then they do go ahead and overhaul everything to focus on a different kind of QB, and at the 11th hour Farva suddenly wants to come back. You're saying, based solely on the man's ego and desire to have what he wants, Green Bay should just give it to him.

The system is still different. Favre is going to come in and compete for the starting position based on that system.

How can the packers look their team in the face and say, "no, we didn't bring Favre back because he couldn't help this team. Aaron Rogers is so much better that we don't need him."

He's being brought back because he's still a damn good QB, not because he's Favre. If he's not better than Rogers, he won't play...but you and I both know that he IS better than Rogers--no matter the system.

 

[Stout]

The system is still different. Favre is going to come in and compete for the starting position based on that system.

How can the packers look their team in the face and say, "no, we didn't bring Favre back because he couldn't help this team. Aaron Rogers is so much better that we don't need him."

He's being brought back because he's still a damn good QB, not because he's Favre. If he's not better than Rogers, he won't play...but you and I both know that he IS better than Rogers--no matter the system.

That isn't even the issue any more. The issue is who runs the team, and it ain't Brat Farva. Year after year he does it, and this time he went a step too far. Buh-bye.

Edit: A few years ago, if given the chance to obtain Leonard Little for a song, would you have done it? It would undoubtedly have made our team better, but I would have said no. Why? Principle. Now, I'm not saying Farva is a slimeball like Little, but it's the same kind of setup. Would Farve make the team better? Sure. Is it a good idea to bring him back? No.

 

[Pariah]

That isn't even the issue any more.

Sure it is. If Favre couldn't play any more, they wouldn't bring him back.

Edit: A few years ago, if given the chance to obtain Leonard Little for a song, would you have done it? It would undoubtedly have made our team better, but I would have said no. Why? Principle. Now, I'm not saying Farva is a slimeball like Little, but it's the same kind of setup. Would Farve make the team better? Sure. Is it a good idea to bring him back? No.

Come on, Stout. You know this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

Farve is a guy who is great in the community, a great teammate and good for the Packers and the NFL. Little is a good football player and that's it.

 

[nashman]

Whatever what a bunch of crap about nothing, GB is freakin stupid for making a big deal out of this. Farves' retirement nudged by GB was premature and he changed his mind. Fact is GB could just release him but they know he would go somewhere and make them pay, so they have to eat it and let him compete, which isn't really a competition as Farve is light years better than Rodgers will ever be. So why all the fuss GB should be happy and welcome their HOF QB with open arms, screw Rodgers what the hell has he ever done?

 

[moklerman]

Well, with Manning out in Indy right now I think the Colts should move forward and give Sorgi his shot. You just can't leave the guy on the bench forever. Manning couldn't even get past the first round of the playoffs vs. the Chargers last year. Jim Sorgi is our QB!

 

[earthsci]

Brett Favre is a bitch IMO. The reason that they drafted Rodgers is because he hemmed and hawed about retiring before deciding to stay. Fine. Then they go out and draft two more QBs because he retired. I don't believe GB pushed him into retirement.

 

[Stout]

Sure it is. If Favre couldn't play any more, they wouldn't bring him back.



Come on, Stout. You know this isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

Farve is a guy who is great in the community, a great teammate and good for the Packers and the NFL. Little is a good football player and that's it.

It's a valid comparison because the plusses of Brat Farva, which you illustrated, are starting to get outweighed by the gross negatives. Year after year after year he causes turmoil and controversy, bringing the Pack negative press. He clearly doesn't care about what it does to his teammates and couldn't give a damn about how it changes the offseason. Indecision is just fine, and I can easily understand wanting to take your time to make the right call. Every year he cries at the end of the year, every year he makes an agonizing decision, every year he keeps the team in limbo, and every year it escalates. THIS year, he ended up waiting too long, and then cried and pouted and bullied and basically acted like a spoiled child because the team wasn't pandering to his 'me' attitude. Brett Farve IS TO, but with better press.

 

[moklerman]

Brett Farve IS TO, but with better press.

Wow, I couldn't disagree with that any more. Favre is a media ***** but I put this whole situation on the Packers. Favre has long needed time to re-energize at the end of the season and Green Bay forcing him to make that decision early is what has caused all of this turmoil. As far as holding them hostage, I don't agree that ultimately showing up year in and year out, still performing at a high level has held them hostage. The Packers haven't had to draft a QB in 17 years. That seems like a luxury to me.

 

[crisper57]

The Madden Curse strikes again, this time at a man's legacy. Or did he do that to himself?

I'm sorry. You don't file for retirement and then ask to come back (even to a different team) during training camp.

 

[moklerman]

I'm sorry. You don't file for retirement and then ask to come back (even to a different team) during training camp.

I thought all of this started before camp opened? Better before than during or right before the first game. With Rodgers' pedestrian outing at family night, I'm sure Packers nation is glad Favre is coming back.

 

[Stout]

Wow, I couldn't disagree with that any more. Favre is a media ***** but I put this whole situation on the Packers. Favre has long needed time to re-energize at the end of the season and Green Bay forcing him to make that decision early is what has caused all of this turmoil. As far as holding them hostage, I don't agree that ultimately showing up year in and year out, still performing at a high level has held them hostage. The Packers haven't had to draft a QB in 17 years. That seems like a luxury to me.

Brett, is that you?

Okay, I can agree that older players need more time to re-energize at the end of the season. But please, name me the last aging superstar QB that, for more than several years running, waits excruciatingly long to come to a decision, has controversy swirling about how selfish he's being in taking so long, and doesn't consider the team in the process? Hmmm, I'm drawing a blank here.

'Forcing him to make that decision early'? How is wanting to know before FA and the draft (you know, when you'd need to replace him or adjust the roster?) forcing him to make an early decision. That's plenty of time to figure it out. But okay, let's say it isn't. Give it a little more time, even though it is extremely detrimental to the team, but sure, give it some more time and consideration. Well, he did, and guess what? He STILL didn't want to come back.

I'm sorry. Farve waited and waited and hemmed and hawed and it's his own damn fault he waited too long. What do you want the Pack to do, simply say 'Gee Brett, we don't need notice or anything. Just come on back whenever you want and we'll just slot you right into the starting lineup.' Is that what you want? Because that would be Brett playing GM.

 

[moklerman]

But please, name me the last aging superstar QB that, for more than several years running, waits excruciatingly long to come to a decision, has controversy swirling about how selfish he's being in taking so long, and doesn't consider the team in the process? Hmmm, I'm drawing a blank here.

I can't think of too many QB's that are comparable to Favre in accomplishment, status and desire/ability to play at this stage of their career. Marino's knees were used up. Aikman's brain was soft. Bradshaw's elbow was powder. Montana's back was messed up and his elbow was reconstructed. Brett is, from what I can tell, perfectly healthy and hasn't missed a game in however many years it's been. Just went to the pro-bowl, NFC championship game and is still the best QB on the Packers roster. He's a little selfish and definitely self centered but he's also willing to earn his job back. He isn't demanding to be named the starter he just wants a chance to play and I don't have a problem with that.

I agree that it would have saved a lot of trouble if he knew that he would want to come back this year but I also don't begrudge him the disappointment and drain of losing the NFC championship game, especially when it ended on his interception. 30 below zero games have got to be less than appealing when it comes to deciding whether or not to do it all again.

Irvin--anyone else as "thrilled" as I am that he'll be on NFL Network this year?--was commenting on how Favre should just quit but I think that if you ask any ex-star if they had the chance to play one more healthy, productive year they would all say yes. It's just not a big deal to me that he made a premature decision and wants the chance to still play. If he'd quit the day before training camp that would be different. He's making the team better by coming back and I don't see how that's such a horrible thing for the Packers.

 

[Pariah]

Honest question: How successful does Favre and the Packers need to be in order to put to rest the notion that he's hurt the team? Do they have to go to the superbowl? Do they have to get back to the NFC championship game? Just the playoffs?