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What happens next in the NBA?

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Thursday, February 19

Eighteen hours after Joe Dumars pulled off the trade of the year, NBA GMs were still picking themselves up off the floor.
"Unbelievable," one GM told Insider.
"I've never seen a more lopsided deal in my career," another moaned.
"They're morons," claimed another executive referring to Danny Ainge and Billy Knight. "I can't believe they just did that."
"Detroit just shifted the balance of power in the East," another said. "I think they just became the team to beat."
The reverberations from the last blockbuster in what has been an enormously busy trading season were still being felt as the night wore on. Two Eastern Conference teams in particular, the Pistons and Knicks, have fortified their teams while another East team, the Hawks, called it quits.
What do you bet that Knight is hanging out with Howard Dean in Vermont tonight? The Hawks, with all of their assets, will walk into the summer with Jason Terry, two first-round picks and a large pile of rubble to rebuild. Our guess is that Knight won't be there to see it.
What's gone down in the past few weeks will not only have ramifications on the playoff race, but on what's shaping up to be one of the busiest offseasons in NBA history.
Now that the hangover has subsided, here's the breakdown . . .
THE SEASON

The East is now wide open. With Ron Artest now out indefinitely, the Nets surging under Lawrence Frank, the Hornets getting healthy and the Pistons, Knicks and even the Bucks fortifying their positions, we should be in for a real treat the last trimester of the season.



Joe Dumars has put Detroit in position to make a run at the Eastern Conference title.

Much is going to depend on how quickly the Pistons, Knicks and Bucks can integrate their new talent. The Pistons are six games back from the conference-leading Pacers, but have a favorable schedule and a new low-post man (Rasheed Wallace) to fix their only real weakness.
The Hornets are sitting nine games behind the Pacers, but should be much stronger with Jamal Mashburn back in the lineup. The Bucks will also improve with Keith Van Horn in the lineup, but again, there will be an adjustment period.
The Knicks have been adjusting on the fly, but with the trade rumors now over, I think they'll settle down and really start playing inspired basketball.
Those six teams seem like a lock for the playoffs at the moment. Good luck trying to pick which one comes out of the East. I think you could make an argument for all six teams, though I'm leaning toward the Pistons at this point.
The bottom is going to get ugly. The Magic didn't do enough to turn their season around. Is it just me or does Tracy McGrady look likes he's ready to kill someone? The Sixers are in the same boat with Allen Iverson. If the Hawks win another game . . . I'll be stunned.

The West, on the other hand, did relatively little. The Jazz probably helped preserve a .500 season by adding Gordan Giricek and Tom Gugliotta. In my mind the playoff race there is almost over. There's a pretty big gap between the eight seed, Denver, and the ninth seed, Seattle. The Sonics had a chance to really improve but balked at several interesting trade scenarios. The Blazers are coming together at the right time, but I have a feeling that the dissension with Zach Randolph isn't going away any time soon.
Chris Webber's return should have a major impact at the top of the standings. The Kings have the best TEAM in the NBA right now, and Webber's ability to fit in should make the transition pretty seamless.
The Lakers are getting healthy again, which makes them pretty dangerous, but will they have played together long enough to make a difference?
Minnesota will have chemistry issues once Wally Szczerbiak and Michael Olowokandi return. The Grizzlies probably missed an opportunity to become more dominant by adding Erick Dampier, but I don't blame Jerry West for balking at what the Warriors were asking for Damp. Jeff Van Gundy still has to find a way to get along with Steve Francis, but our guess is that they get that taken care of.
The bottom won't be nearly as bad in the West. The Suns, Clippers and Warriors will jostle for last place, but with little remorse. Both the Suns and Clippers will have windows to improve dramatically this summer. The Warriors? Well . . . they feel at home at the bottom anyway.
THE FALL GUYS
There have already been a record number of coaches fired and it doesn't look like the end will come soon.

The Hawks' Terry Stotts may have just been handed the worst team ever. He has more tenure than any other coach in the East, but there's about a 99.9 percent chance that he'll be looking for work this summer. Billy Knight should probably join him.

The Sonics' Nate McMillan has grown frustrated with the direction his team is heading in. McMillan was holding out hope that GM Rick Sund could move Vladimir Radmanovic, who has no business playing the four, for a real power forward. Will the frustration get the better of him? The players could revolt and Sund may have to send Nate packing.

The Magic insist that Johnny Davis is their man, but with the rest of the Titanic about to sink in the next 30 or so games, it's hard to believe anyone is going to survive in Orlando. GM John Gabriel is going down with the ship, and unfortunately, Davis will probably be right there with him.

The Celtics' John Carroll is as good as gone. The Celtics are getting shakier by the day, and you know that Danny Ainge is itching to bring in his guy to start putting together the pieces.

The Sixers will try to get permission from the Blazers to land Maurice Cheeks this summer. Chris Ford is already in Allen Iverson's doghouse. AI is so tough to move, it probably makes more sense to bring in a coach who can co-exist with Allen. Billy King, on the other hand, probably won't be around long enough to make that decision. The Sixers are a mess and his inability to get something done by the trade deadline just emphasizes it.

The Mavericks are the other team to watch. They have supersized expectations and Mark Cuban won't hesitate to pull the plug on Don Nelson if he feels there's a guy out there who can get more from his team.

Who's going to replace all of those guys? Jim O'Brien, Doc Rivers and even Byron Scott will probably land jobs this summer in the coaching ranks. Possible replacement GMs? Pistons V.P. John Hammond (who turned down the Portland job last summer), and Pacers assistant GM David Morway are at the top of the class. The Pistons and Pacers have become models of how to rebuild without blowing things up and both guys played a big part in their team's success. Both will be getting long looks from a couple of teams contemplating a change.

THE DRAFT

Start with the expansion draft set to be held on June 22. Every team is allowed to protect only eight players, meaning that several teams are going to have some tough choices. For teams that have eight or fewer players on their roster, they must leave one person unprotected. Expect a lot of side deals with the Bobcats as teams try to wiggle and get more cap space.
You could definitely see a team like the Suns (with Jahidi White), the Wizards (Christian Laettner) or the Pistons (with Elden Campbell) try to move a player in the expansion draft to get more room. What is the Bobcats' incentive? Promises of picks, players or both. They'll be in the driver's seat and could really shake things up just days before the draft.

The Celtics now have three first-round picks (their own, the Mavericks' and the Pistons'). The Jazz have three (their own, the Rockets' and likely the Knicks'). The Blazers have two (their own and Memphis'). They now become the power brokers as the draft approaches. With so many young players and international players in this year's draft, it makes little sense to have all of those picks. Expect them to use the picks as bargaining chips this summer.

This is a good year for bigs in the draft, if you don't mind them coming so young. There will be Emeka Okafor (6-foot-9), Dwight Howard (6-11, 18-years-old), Pavel Podkolzine (7-4, 19 yrs), Kosta Perovic (7-2, 19 yrs), Andris Biedrins (7-0, 18 yrs), Peja Samardzski (7-0, 18 yrs), Ivan Chiriaev (7-1, 18 yrs), LaMarcus Aldridge (6-11, 18 yrs.), Robert Swift (7-1, 18 yrs), Rafael Araujo (6-11, 23), Ha Seung Jin (7-3, 18 yrs.) and possibly big guys like Colorado's David Harrison (7-0) and Michigan State's Paul Davis (6-11). That's good news for a lot of vertically challenged teams in the lottery.

Expect the theme of this year's draft to center on the high school kids. As many as eight of them could slip into the first round this year -- a record. Scouts are also predicting another 10 international players to make it into the first round. That really puts a squeeze on the college players who could be looking at a record-low eight spots this year. What does that mean? With no LeBron in the high school class of 2004, this is a prospect draft, meaning no first-year impact players this year with the possible exception of Arizona's Andre Iguodala, St. Joseph's Jameer Nelson and possibly Duke's Luol Deng, if he puts his name in the draft.

THE SUMMER

Several GMs are now predicting that with the increased revenue the league is seeing this year, the cap could raise to $46 or $47 million next year. They also believe there will be no luxury tax for the 2004-05 season, which frees folks up significantly.

The players in free agency? Assuming there's a $46 million cap, the Jazz will have roughly $28 million in cap room. The Hawks are looking at around $20 million. The Nuggets will have between $17 million and $24 million depending on what they do with Marcus Camby. The Clippers will have around $15 million. The Spurs should come in at around $12 million. The Pistons are now looking at roughly $9 to $11 million in cap space. The Suns could are also looking to be in that $9 to $11 million range. And don't forget the Bobcats, who could have as much as $24 million under the cap.
What does this mean? We'll probably see some intense bidding wars and see higher contracts this year than in the past few offseasons. With so much money out there, it's going to be a lot easier for free agents to leave the nest and much tougher for teams to match their restricted free agents.



Re-signing Mehmet Okur is the Pistons' top priority.
The Pistons may be the center of the universe again. All eyes will be on Rasheed Wallace and Mehmet Okur in Detroit. Both are top-six free agents this year.
Here's the bad news for those thinking that Thursday's trade means that one of them is available. Pistons president Joe Dumars wants to re-sign both Wallace and Okur this summer if they both get along over the next 30-plus games.
Sources claim that Wallace has already sent out feelers about staying in Detroit, quashing the notion that he'll only play for the Knicks next season. With the Pistons looking at between $9 and $11 million in cap room, can Joe D get it done?
The Pistons probably have the cap space and flexibility to work something out. If they can get Okur to sign for the mid-level exception (expected to be around $5.1 to $5.5 this year) then they can use their Bird Rights to get Wallace. If Okur is commanding more money on the open market, the Pistons can always try to package a few more players to a team with cap space to get far enough under to sign them both this summer.
That's bad news for just about everyone in the East.

The Kobe Bryant situation is going to be a mess. If the trial isn't over by the summer, does a team really risk throwing a huge contract his way if he's headed off to jail? It could really slow things down, and who has the patience to wait around for a long shot?

Other top free agents like Steve Nash, Antoine Walker and Emanuel Ginobili are probably staying put. Kenyon Martin will probably be the best guy who's actually available on July 1st. After that guys like Quentin Richardson, Jamal Crawford and possibly Erick Dampier will be the best available.

Looking for some mid-level free agent bargains? Here's an early list of who might sign with your team even if it's over the cap: Vlade Divac, Gary Payton, Marcus Camby, Stromile Swift, Antonio McDyess, Brent Barry, Carlos Arroyo, Gordan Giricek, Etan Thomas, Rodney White and Adonal Foyle.


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The Pistons can't resign Okur AND Wallace.

The Suns would definately offer more to Okur than the MLE especially if they can't get Kobe and even if we get Kobe I sense it is more likely a sign and trade and we would still offer Okur more than that.

Afterall Okur is a good, young center who rebounds the ball well, can shoot with range and is improving.

Their will be many teams that want Okur.

The Suns might have an advantage here. Zarko was working out with Okur in the summer.

Does anyone think that the Kobe trial would keep a team from signing him?

If he does go to jail which seems highly unlikely already his contract would be more than likely voided anyway I would think.
 

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Originally posted by thegrahamcrackr
I dont like Okur at all for the suns. He doesn't play defense, which is the biggest thing we need.
I wish Dampier were a lot younger. I'd be all for him if I wasn't convinced he was playing well just because it was a contract year.
 

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I am going back and forth about Okur.

But the fact is that he is a center in the Brad Miller mold. He can shoot, has range, plays smart, rebounds well, blocks some shots and is very young and going to get better.

You have to wonder a bit why he didn't make the sophomore team , probably because they had so many big guys.

Okur turns 25 in May and averages 10ppg 7rpg 1apg 1bpg 46%FG in 24mpg.
 

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I like Okur, but I have a feeling we'd have to overpay to get him, and I'm not sure I'd want to do that. But he would be a good addition to our "core".
 

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Originally posted by Chaplin
I like Okur, but I have a feeling we'd have to overpay to get him, and I'm not sure I'd want to do that. But he would be a good addition to our "core".

I guess that better describes my position.

I don't like Okur for the suns, at the price they would have to pay to get him.
 

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Originally posted by Chaplin
I'd be all for him if I wasn't convinced he was playing well just because it was a contract year.
I just don't see why some people consider this season as Dampier's contract year when he has only a player-option and there is no way that he will get more than his actual 8 mil. salary.
 

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I like Okur, he is a really good player and still can improve a lot. I disagree that he is a bad defender. He is not a great one, but will give everything which he can.
He is Jake Voskuhl with better shotblocking and much better offensive skills.
 
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Also regarding Kobe.

Wake up Chad Ford.

You are talking about a young top5 player who has years left before his prime, has charisma, starts the allstar game every game and puts people infront of the TV or in the arena seats.

There are several teams interessted in signing him, don't tell me they will wait until the trial is over if it isn't by then. At least one team would take advantage of others not taking the ríst and sign him anyway.

Signing a player of Kobe is a chance your team has maybe every 20 years that is probably being generous unless you are the Lakers or Knicks and way below the cap.
 

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Originally posted by hcsilla
I just don't see why some people consider this season as Dampier's contract year when he has only a player-option and there is no way that he will get more than his actual 8 mil. salary.

1) He plays for Golden State
2) If he plays well enough some sucker will pay him more than 8 million.
 

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I don't think Dampier looks for an increase in salary.

He is like 30yrs old and has 2 years left on a high paid contract.

If he doesn't opt out this year, he will probably never get to sign a good multi-year contract again.

Say you would get 16M$ over the next 2 years and after than the best you can get is 3years for 12M$. That makes 30M$ if you aren't unlucky and injure yourself before you can even sign another contract.

So if he sign 5 years 30M$ he will make more money in the same time while he is on the safe side.
 

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Originally posted by sunsfn
Several GMs are now predicting that with the increased revenue the league is seeing this year, the cap could raise to $46 or $47 million next year. They also believe there will be no luxury tax for the 2004-05 season, which frees folks up significantly.

I want to see Jerry or Bryan explain this trade if this is in fact true. I wouldn't mind this trade as much if the luxury tax was a sure thing, but there is no guarantee that we saved any signifigant money by trading 2 draft picks away with Googs.
 

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You realize that 2004/2005 is next season and the trade was done to avoid the tax in 2003/2004.

It doesn't affect our future at all except that we will have 2 mid to late first rounders less down the road.
But still have one first rounder every year since we owe San Antonio one but still have another teams first which likely will be traded to get rid off Jahidi White.
 

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Stay tuned...Gambo says he has some big news coming up concerning what direction the Suns plan on going. They also have Chad Ford coming on. Gambo has all the poop. :D
 

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So what did Chad Porsche say?

And does anyone agree with me why Dampier will definately opt out and go for a contract starting at less what he makes right now?
 

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And does anyone agree with me why Dampier will definately opt out and go for a contract starting at less what he makes right now?

I agree that he's likely to opt out, because his worst-case scenario is a longer deal starting for less money. But I also agree with whoever said that someone will likely pay him more.
 

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Sorry but I doubt even Utah would offer him more than 8M$ to start.

Of course I don't think Utah will get good FAs even with a little overpaying.

Denver is very cautious about overpaying I think.
Atlanta would be the only team that could overpay him.

I don't think anyone will.
 

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Atlanta would be the only team that could overpay him.

Not quite the only one. Rumor has it the worst team in the Western Conference will have $9 million or more in cap space and has a history of overpaying mediocre big men.
 

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It would require someone else to overpay as well.

Dampier doesn't seem to be our first option at center either. He doesn't fill the bill really since he is very limited and only a great rebounder and nothing else.


From what I picked up, Gambo says the Suns will SHOCK fans with what will happen in the offseason and Colangelo will be applauded for trading Marbury.

Well at least makes me feel much better that my proposed dream offseason isn't that far off.

The Colangelos must be pretty sure about their plan. Who knows they might know something about Bryants allegiance to the Lakers or Suns already. They have probably talked with the Lakers already.
 

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According to Gambo's "sources" Phoenix is number 1 on Kobe's list of teams to come too.
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
The Pistons can't resign Okur AND Wallace.


Sure they can. All they have to do is retain Wallace's bird rights and con Okur to sign for mid cap. :D

The Pistons are likely to try to move Campbell for cap space. He has an expiring contract next year which is smaller than White's and he used to play in Charlotte with the Hornets.
 

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Originally posted by slinslin

Well at least makes me feel much better that my proposed dream offseason isn't that far off.

The Colangelos must be pretty sure about their plan. Who knows they might know something about Bryants allegiance to the Lakers or Suns already. They have probably talked with the Lakers already.

If this signing is more imminent then we may have thought, then the Colangelos must be confident about the outcome of the trial as well.
 
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If this signing is more imminent then we may have thought, then the Colangelos muct be confident about the outcome of the trial as well.

He's using the money he saved in luxury tax to bribe the jurors. :D
 

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Originally posted by George O'Brien
He's using the money he saved in luxury tax to bribe the jurors. :D

Maybe they have an arrangement. ;)



JC: I know people, I can fix this trial thing.

Kobe: What do I have to do?

JC: Come play for the Suns for less money this summer.

Kobe: It's a deal!


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