Fewer Than 3,000 Season Tickets Remain For Inaugural Season At Cardinals Stadium

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SECTION 11 said:
Personally, I hope they're all sold out.
Where were these poor souls who couldn't get tickets for the last 18 years? But NOW it's an issue?? Tough crap.
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Shane H said:
Do you think other teams like the Pack whom Im pretty sure has no single game tickets for sale dont get the support and alienate their fans.

The Pack is a different situation. They have generations of fans, which for the most part the Cards dont. Also, most of the town of Green Bay is at the game on Sundays, even if the Cards sell out, its only a small portion of our cities population.

I think you should go do some research, A LOT of teams (I would wager most) in pro sports reserve seats for individual games. Its just how its done.
 

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The Pack is a different situation. They have generations of fans, which for the most part the Cards dont. Also, most of the town of Green Bay is at the game on Sundays, even if the Cards sell out, its only a small portion of our cities population.

I think you should go do some research, A LOT of teams (I would wager most) in pro sports reserve seats for individual games. Its just how its done.

Yes I agree most do. Doesnt mean its the right way becasue you say so. Read section 11's post for example.
 

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All I can say is WOW! Imagine 60K plus fans on opening day most wearing red...Unthinkable. We are finnaly becoming a pro football town, bandwagon or not. Our team is so much better and the future looks bright..I Knew we would sell out the day I got my tickets. You could feel it. SOLD OUT!

Start forming the lines for future season tickets if you want them. We are a real football paying, cheering, screaming, town...

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Yes I agree most do. Doesnt mean its the right way becasue you say so. Read section 11's post for example.

So people who maybe 1. Didnt live here for the past 18 years. 2. Couldnt afford tickets for the past 18 years. 3. Were too young to buy tickets the past 18 years (myself included) or 4. Didnt want to watch terrible football should be punished? Duly noted. Yes, the Cards are going to have a lot of bandwagon fans w/ the new stadium and the fact that they may be turning the corner, thats the nature of success.
 

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HooverDam said:
Selling out every single seat to season ticket holders is just bad business. It alienated lower and middle class fans. Most pro sports organizations set aside a few thousand seats for individual game sales. Do you want your sporting event to be just some event to be seen at, with rich folks who don't care owning every ticket? No. You want a nice variety of fans there.

Im nearly positive the Cards will reserve a certain number of seats for individual game sales.

This would not be the reason to keep seats aside unless you are also saying the Cards should sell them for a 1$ a seat.

If the seats are available and you can't afford them anyways because you were lower class why should that make a difference. You either can afford them or not. If not, then you would hope that they are sold out so you could see them on TV every week. That would be much more helpful in generating new fans.

Sell out all the seats if possible.
 

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They always could put more seats into the stadium to allow for more season tix/single game tix. They do have a 73k max capacity.
 

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HooverDam said:
So people who maybe 1. Didnt live here for the past 18 years. 2. Couldnt afford tickets for the past 18 years. 3. Were too young to buy tickets the past 18 years (myself included) or 4. Didnt want to watch terrible football should be punished? Duly noted. Yes, the Cards are going to have a lot of bandwagon fans w/ the new stadium and the fact that they may be turning the corner, thats the nature of success.


Thats the nature of the beast. If anything having sellouts creates a bigger fan base since they are televised locally. It certainly doesnt alienate anyone IMO. Like I said even if they sell out every single seat you can still get a ticket if you really want it.
 

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They always could put more seats into the stadium to allow for more season tix/single game tix. They do have a 73k max capacity.

That IMO would be the best option. Keep it at that capacity for all game snot just the SB and BCS etc..... If they start winning they would all sell out and imagine the extra revenue 10,000 seats would be for the team? WOW!
 

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what are we arguing about -- maybe 1,000 tickets a game?

like that makes a difference in a metro area of 3 mm + in fans being alienated or not

far more important is how the team plays, and how the team treats its existing season ticket holders

one of the nice things about dealing with the Cardinals ticket office (vs historical dealings with the Suns ticket office) is that (because they have to be) the Cardinal office was very, very customer focused
 

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what are we arguing about -- maybe 1,000 tickets a game?

like that makes a difference in a metro area of 3 mm + in fans being alienated or not

far more important is how the team plays, and how the team treats its existing season ticket holders

one of the nice things about dealing with the Cardinals ticket office (vs historical dealings with the Suns ticket office) is that (because they have to be) the Cardinal office was very, very customer focused

Lets hope they stay that way through success.
 

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I'm certain that some will remain for single game seats (hopefully about 12, maybe 13).

Your fanbase certainly doesn't benefit from 35,000 Patriot, Cowboy, Giant, Steeler, etc fans buying single game tickets, just because they can.

Put them on tv, in a stadium full of Cardinal fans. That's how you galvanize an untapped fanbase, teetering on the edge of dropping their home town team and jumping on the bandwagon.
 

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HooverDam said:
So people who maybe 1. Didnt live here for the past 18 years. 2. Couldnt afford tickets for the past 18 years. 3. Were too young to buy tickets the past 18 years (myself included) or 4. Didnt want to watch terrible football should be punished?


That's correct.

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Whoa - this isn't unique guys.

I grew up in D.C., where the Redskins have been sold out since day 1. You can't get into a game, period.

And those tickets are bequeathed to lucky heirs. Divorces have been known to settle the house and kids, but go for years over the tickets.

I believe there's a certain number of tickets that are kept for other team's fans; I've been told that when checking into flying to Washington for a Cards game. Perhaps those are offered to the other team first, and then put up for sale -- but I have no idea how it really works.

I do know that there are season tickets available today. There may not be tomorrow. Find friends and go in with them to own a piece of history, or watch it on TV. Whichever -- just make your choice.
 

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en fuego said:
Cory Chavous on the NFL network raised a very interesting point:

When you walk out into a stadium that holds 73k, and there are 25K there, and a portion of them are rooting against you, its hard to get motivated.

How many home wins is a home field advantage worth a season?

To go from the worst situation last year (short of New Orleans) to what sounds like a pretty good one -- is that worth an extra win or two at home?

I think a true home crowd advantage could be the factor that gets the team over the hump in one or two close games.
If thats how Cory felt, he outright sucks. As a person who was always wearing Cardinal Red (paying my own money as opposed to being paid millions to do so) in SDS stadium, I can say every single time I saw it filled with the other teams, I was in a state of blind rage. If all those Rams fans and other **** cheering against him alone didn't motivate him, then he's some sort of namby pamby, lukewarm jackass. To hear that kind of garbage excuse making makes me think Chavous' attiutude, along with creeps like Tommy Jones who got his hurt feelings on draft day, when someone made fun of him for being a Cardinal, thats the kind of BS that accounts for the follies of the Mac era. Thank God DG took out the trash with a lot of the Mac roster. Chavous should have been playing with a homicide in his heart. I just don't get it.
 
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It is a fact that the visiting team has a certain amount of tickets put a side for family or friends. I have gone on a few road trips and have been able to get tickets through someone I know inside. Then there are tickets for our players family and friends. This stadium for all intence and purpose is sold out.

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If thats how Cory felt, he outright sucks. As a person who was always wearing Cardinal Red (paying my own money as opposed to being paid millions to do so) in SDS stadium, I can say every single time I saw it filled with the other teams, I was in a state of blind rage. If all those Rams fans and other **** cheering against him alone didn't motivate him, then he's some sort of namby pamby, lukewarm jackass. To hear that kind of garbage excuse making makes me think Chavous' attiutude, along with creeps like Tommy Jones who got his hurt feelings on draft day, when someone made fun of him for being a Cardinal, thats the kind of BS that accounts for the follies of the Mac era. Thank God DG took out the trash with a lot of the Mac roster. Chavous should have been playing with a homicide in his heart. I just don't get it.


I understand how you feel that way, but I have to say I understand where Chavous is coming from.

If a jammed full stadium can get a team jacked up, doesnt is stand to reason that a nearly empty one could be a downer?

As much as we would like well paid professionals to go 100% all of the time, the reality is that a great atmosphere can bring a little bit more out of a player and an empty one can be demotivating.
 

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I understand how you feel that way, but I have to say I understand where Chavous is coming from.

If a jammed full stadium can get a team jacked up, doesnt is stand to reason that a nearly empty one could be a downer?

As much as we would like well paid professionals to go 100% all of the time, the reality is that a great atmosphere can bring a little bit more out of a player and an empty one can be demotivating.


Your points are well taken and I hope the new stadium does improve out atmosphere. But the fact is, the empty stadium and other teams fans came from astonishing amounts of losing. And that was the result of having too many losers on our roster. Chavous was one of them. Bottom line, any player who says, he can't play 100 percent without fan approval is a loser. And thats what Corey is saying. I don't like him anyway and I'll admit that. But there is really no way to defend the excuses he's trying to make.
 

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The thing that I dont hear anyone saying on this thread is the "future" of Cardinal football. In theory this is great that there are only a few thousand season tickets available and that there is excitement about this team.

But the reality is this fanbases is excited over a few signings and a new stadium and if the Cards don't win, the fanbase will shrink fast.

So we can all spout off that "who cares about the bandwagon fan" or "where were these people when the cards couldnt sell 20,000 tickets to a game?" but the reality is that this type of mindset will alienate a fence sitter and certainly wont keep them around after all the hoopla around the new stadium has long since faded.

There is no doubt that there WILL be single game tickets for these games and there should be. It isnt about packing your stadium only, it is about creating generations upon generations of loyal fans so that the Cards build a solid fanbase in the valley win or lose.
 

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I'm sure they'll keep some single tickets aside but IMO they should have the lowest percentage in the league for now so long as they can max out the season tickets. I think the pyschological effect of having the 8 games sold out is more beneficial than trying to accomodate those who can't make the commitment. You want to get to the point where there's a waiting list for the tickets. Where people have it in their heads that even in a down year, if you give up your season tickets you aren't going to get them back. Thats the deal in Kansas City. Of course its all dependent on winning but for this year, I think the Cards should push the season tickets envelope as far as they can get away with. And if they start consistently winning and they aren't able to roll back the amount of season tickets because of high demand that's all for the better.
 

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Thanks for the info, guys. It sure is great hearing the buzz surrounding Cardinals tickets! :thumbup:
 

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If they hadn't alienated so many fans with the Mexico City game last year, it would be sold out already!
















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Well, maybe since day 1 in your life.

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I grew up in D.C., where the Redskins have been sold out since day 1.
Day 1: 9/16/1937: According to the Redskins official site, "...that drew nearly 25,000 fans to Griffith Stadium in Washington, D.C...."

The consecutive sellout streak began in 1968, the longest such streak in the NFL (including Green Bay).

Now for the Cardinals to begin their consecutive sellout streak.

By the way, according to an exasperated voice at the ticket office when a friend called, they still have the back 4-5 rows at the corners of the upper deck. I guess that's what you call "Great Seats" that are still available.
 

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Now we have to win so we can keep them all for more than one season.

Having all our games on local TV will help.

I can't wait until we have a long waiting list...
 

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