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Dear Suns fans,

I regret that the best playoff series in many years has been spoiled by the aftermath of Robert Horry's foul.

I wanted to express myself as well as some Spurs fans who simply cannot voice our feelings here in San Antonio without fear of reprisal.

The fact that my comments has now resulted in a thread on a spurs website, I feel it is only proper that I no longer express myself here.

Parting words:

I honestly feel that the suspensions could have been avoided very simply without having to amend the rule.

From my vantage point, it could very easily have been said that the two players stepped onto the court before the fight between Horry and Bell. At the very least, the evidence to the contrary is very slim to non-existent. No camera angle was ever produced that could show without any doubt that the two men came onto the floor after the fight occurred.

The problem is the league put the burden of proof onto the Suns to prove a negative, i.e., that the men did NOT step onto the floor when the fight occurred. In this country, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

I know that is the rule in a court of law.

But this same semblance of fairplay and justice should have been followed in a matter as important as this case. The league was going to strip a team of two important players. It would have been fair to make the league prove the men guilty by substantial evidence instead of requiring the men to prove their innocence. Again--no video ever revealed the fact the men stepped onto the court AFTER the fight. If anyone can produce a link to the contrary, then I will stand corrected. I have viewed the video many times. The videos usually are not able to depict the men in conjunction of the Horry/Bell fight. They have separate videos that show only:

1. The men stepping briefly on the court

2. The Bell/Horry fight.

There is no video that showed which came first. This was the very essence of the debate and went to the heart of the rule.

Nevertheless, due to this unworkable rule, i.e., that it is a zero tolerance rule without exceptions, the league seriously needs to amend the rule to accommodate grades of guilt and to allow discretion to determine whether a specific act is egregious enough for a "death penalty" suspension from a game.

A suspension should be the most definitive and harshest remedy and should be reserved for players that actually step onto the court and who participate in a fight.

Players who simply step onto the floor but who do not enter into the fray should be subject to other penalties, such as fines.

Society depends on rules. This is elementary. This is the essence of a civilized society.

Nevertheless, rules should also be shaped to accommodate fairness and common sense. When rules fail to accommodate such fundamental notions of fair play and substantial justice, they run afoul of some of the most basic notions of a democracy.

Either interpret the rules in a fair, common sense fashion.

Or change the rule.

Since the league is incapable of the former, the latter is required.

That is all that I shall say. I know some of this may be repetitive, but I felt the need to reiterate a few points to make my entire argument cogent.

Thank you.

God bless you.

And God bless America.

Greg Popovich

PS-- Please do not judge Spurs fans as a monolith. There are fair Spurs fans. There are unfair Spurs fans. This is true for all teams and for all sports. Life is best when we realize this.

Martin Luther King's most famous speech beckoned this country to judge a person by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

This famous equation for equality and justice can be adopted and followed in the sports arena.

To paraphrase King--judge a person by the content of their character and not by the team they love.

I love the Spurs.

I am disappointed in a few members of the organization.

The vast majority of the organization is first class without question.

PPSS--"Greg Popovich" is not my true name (obviously) but was adopted in honor of the finest man to ever coach the team that I love--the San Antonio Spurs.
 
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a few nice points but why are you bringing the good Dr. King in to this?

Basketball?
 
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I was trying to say that Dr. King's words are powerful in that he called for justice by asking people to look beyond labels, skin color, etc and to treat people as individuals. Judge them by the content of their character and not by any other criteria.

I am fearful that people in Arizona will have a loathing for all Texans or rather, San Antonians, because of this episode and by the actions of a few small number of fans gloating and ridiculing the Suns on other websites.

We don't need more hatred in this world.
 

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Dear Suns fans,

I regret that the best playoff series in many years has been spoiled by the aftermath of Robert Horry's foul.

I wanted to express myself as well as some Spurs fans who simply cannot voice our feelings here in San Antonio without fear of reprisal.


It's nice that some loser pretends to be a Spurs fan an comes here to give you guys therapy.
 

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It's nice that some loser pretends to be a Spurs fan an comes here to give you guys therapy.

Rather uncalled for Darrin. Greg has been one of the most respectful posters of an opposition. I have lost respect for all things and people associated with the spurs, but Greg has somehow been the only spurs fan to keep my respect, and it is because of his classy posting and great attitude towards both teams. Thanks for being such a great exampl Greg, your fellow fans should be proud to have such a great representative on this board.
 

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Rather uncalled for Darrin. Greg has been one of the most respectful posters of an opposition. I have lost respect for all things and people associated with the spurs, but Greg has somehow been the only spurs fan to keep my respect, and it is because of his classy posting and great attitude towards both teams. Thanks for being such a great exampl Greg, your fellow fans should be proud to have such a great representative on this board.

do you need a hug?
 
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Sarcasm does not advance the debate.

If I am wrong in my analysis--point it out, sir.

Cheap shots are what got us in this mess to begin with.
 

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Sarcasm does not advance the debate.

If I am wrong in my analysis--point it out, sir.

Cheap shots are what got us in this mess to begin with.

no kidding...this guy has really got it out for you....
 

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The Spurs used to be "boring" and "soft" and now we're "dirty"?

You know what really started all this mess? Amare mouthing off in his usual ******* way, calling the Spurs dirty because Bruce stepped on his shoe during his dunk. And that game was a 20 POINT BLOWOUT!!!

I like all of the Suns players, especially Nash and Marion, but Amare is an absolute *******. Didn't he also give away that the Suns were going to start Thomas? Man, what does it take to keep that guy's mouth shut. He could learn a lot from Nash and not just about basketball.

And even without Amare and Diaw, the Suns still almost won that game. They controlled most of that game up until the very end. It reminds me of game 4, only in reverse. The Spurs controlled game 4 and choked at the end. The Suns controlled game 5 and choked at the end.

The series is NOT over, so stop crying and just play basketball. I know that's what Nash will do.
 
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You're missing the whole point.

I am not talking about the game.

I am talking about the application of a rule by the NBA. This has ramifications far beyond one game, sir.
 

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You're missing the whole point.

I am not talking about the game.

I am talking about the application of a rule by the NBA. This has ramifications far beyond one game, sir.

why are you explaining yourself to this guy?
 

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You're missing the whole point.

I am not talking about the game.

I am talking about the application of a rule by the NBA. This has ramifications far beyond one game, sir.


Oh Good Lord.

Had they NOT suspended those two guys, it would have been the FIRST time they did not follow the letter of the law, as it applies to that rule.

Is it fair? No. Is it right? Absolutely.

Heck, the Suns nearly small-balled the Spurs to death. Had they not choked at the end, they would be up 3-2.
 
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Darrin--

Please provide one photograph

or one video

that conclusively proves that the fight was already in progress the moment the two players stepped onto the court.

The point is not that they stepped on the court.

The rule is that an altercation MUST have already been ongoing at the time they stepped onto the court.

Please provide a link, sir.
 

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Darrin--

Please provide one photograph

or one video

that conclusively proves that the fight was already in progress the moment the two players stepped onto the court.

The point is not that they stepped on the court.

The rule is that an altercation MUST have already been ongoing at the time they stepped onto the court.

Please provide a link, sir.


Uhh, no. I'm not an expert on interpreting NBA rules. Those people have already made their decision. Get over it already.
 

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GP,

Maybe it's a vast conspiracy. You know how much Stern loves small market teams to advance -- NOT.
 
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I won't debate with you further.

You obviously are a child using the computer during break.
 

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GP,

Maybe it's a vast conspiracy. You know how much Stern loves small market teams to advance -- NOT.

NOT? wow! that so fresh!!! how did you come up with that?
clever man....really clever....
 

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Greg: Hopefully you will reconsider but if not, sorry to see you leave. Unlike the predictable recent flood of Texas trolls, you've been here since before this series -- before the playoffs even started -- so you obviously came to talk basketball.

The fact that your comments resulted in a "thread on a Spurs website" doesn't surprise me and it shouldn't bother you, although I'd guess the responses were not flattering. Your comments have been validated (and then some!) in responses all across the country, in fact all across the world. That's what's making them mad, you're just an easy target.

I hope you'll stay around for the rest of the year, no matter how this series plays out.
 

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I hate when people laugh at their own jokes but that got me goin..
 

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