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Like it or not, from what Monti said after the draft they are not worried about OG. They obviously believe Adams is the guy. Yes, Adams. He started the last five games. Based on how they used him the entire year they think they have gotten him ready to be an NFL starter. Remember, he got by far the most snaps of any rookie last preseason. Why they are so confident in him, I am not sure. But I think they really are.
If Monti's answer to RG is Adams, based on last year, then I again call Monti's acumen into question. I hope he didn't set the D up for success only to set the O up for failure.
 

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If Monti's answer to RG is Adams, based on last year, then I again call Monti's acumen into question. I hope he didn't set the D up for success only to set the O up for failure.
I knew you wouldn't like it. And, Adams had a lot of struggles and I don't like basically penciling him in as the RG this season. But, yeah, their actions and words seem to indicate they are ok with that.
 

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I knew you wouldn't like it. And, Adams had a lot of struggles and I don't like basically penciling him in as the RG this season. But, yeah, their actions and words seem to indicate they are ok with that.
It is possible. We don't want an OG who is bad at pass blocking, which he is, to allow consistent interior pressure. I can also tell you're not a big fan either :)
 

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If Monti's answer to RG is Adams, based on last year, then I again call Monti's acumen into question. I hope he didn't set the D up for success only to set the O up for failure.
I think he got much better every game he played and by the last couple games was actually playing very well.

Lets put it this way, I want him playing ahead of Evan Brown.
 

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Mm, I wouldn't call it the catbird seat because there are severely limited options available at this time. We're shopping in the dollar bin/hoping for non-dollar bin options to be cut. If we had a lot of cap space and a large player pool to choose from, that would be the catbird seat. Instead, we're left with a horrendous IOL to fix. It can be done. Can it be done to the point where it will be good enough? Time will tell.

For as much good as Monti did for the defense--and that is a lot--he seriously neglected IOL.
I don’t hate our starting o-line - it does hinge on isiah Adam’s taking a big step forward. My concern is the lack of depth if someone inevitably goes down
 

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Mm, I wouldn't call it the catbird seat because there are severely limited options available at this time. We're shopping in the dollar bin/hoping for non-dollar bin options to be cut. If we had a lot of cap space and a large player pool to choose from, that would be the catbird seat. Instead, we're left with a horrendous IOL to fix. It can be done. Can it be done to the point where it will be good enough? Time will tell.

For as much good as Monti did for the defense--and that is a lot--he seriously neglected IOL.
Other than Hernandez not signed, why in the IOL horrendous? It was solid last year.
 

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Other than Hernandez not signed, why in the IOL horrendous? It was solid last year.
The interior line was giving up a lot of pressure and getting pushed back causing KM to panic and start moving earlier than he should

KM was getting pressure shy and was looking for DTs instead of looking downfield at times

To be fair to him we need solidify the IOL to alleviate the pressure so he has that little extra time to make his decisions
 

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Funny. I’m doing notes for my evaluation.

The two players I will suggest being added is Hernandez and Moore.

Moore would be the right style player missing in the WR room.
I liked Moore a lot when he came out Ole Miss, and I am surprised that he have not had more success, so I would like him on the team. However, I would like Amari Cooper more. I think he is a better fit for what they need the most, and I think he still have something left (he played injured last season). Petzing have a relationship with him from Cleveland, so he should know if he is worth a signing or not.
 

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Like it or not, from what Monti said after the draft they are not worried about OG. They obviously believe Adams is the guy. Yes, Adams. He started the last five games. Based on how they used him the entire year they think they have gotten him ready to be an NFL starter. Remember, he got by far the most snaps of any rookie last preseason. Why they are so confident in him, I am not sure. But I think they really are.

Watching him prepare, practice and play could offer a clue.
 

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I don’t hate our starting o-line - it does hinge on isiah Adam’s taking a big step forward. My concern is the lack of depth if someone inevitably goes down
the Cards went after Will Fries, a guard in FA but lost out

that says they wanted to upgrade the position
 

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The interior line was giving up a lot of pressure and getting pushed back causing KM to panic and start moving earlier than he should

KM was getting pressure shy and was looking for DTs instead of looking downfield at times

To be fair to him we need solidify the IOL to alleviate the pressure so he has that little extra time to make his decisions
That all happened when the Oline injuries piled up. Both starting OTs and Hernandez on IR, can't remember if Brown was still in there or not. This probably had a negative impact on Adam's as well.

Monti trying to sign Fries was trying to upgrade and get a Big John for Stout.
 

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That all happened when the Oline injuries piled up.
the reality was that Adams was bad, especially in pass pro

he not only gave up too many pressures, there were too many of the kind where it was instant pressure up the middle
 

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One of the amazing things Ossenfort has accomplished is that the Cards still rank 8th in available cap space. It’s fair to say they still have personnel needs. I’m continuing to tout Elijah Moore as a potential WR. He’s young and fast. He’s shown the ability to get open. At this point anyone out there should be affordable and few teams have cap space. The latter situation could make someone like Cooper a potential mentor for the group as well as a productive receiving target.

Brandon Scherff is still available to play guard. CBS noted, “Sherff didn't allow a sack last season, and just 14 pressures while playing all 17 games. His pressure rate allowed per dropback was just 2.4% and just 2.1% over the last two seasons.” Other potential options are out there if the Cards don’t like him.

In addition to these guys there will still be future cuts as teams assemble their rosters. Finally there are also teams in cap hell who could offer some potential trade options against future picks.

As Mel Allen would say the Cards are in the catbird seat. They have options and more options. This is how a real GM is supposed to do it. For all those who’ve criticized Ossenfort for not being more aggressive in past drafts, I think he was just building his evaluation team until he could be more confident in the draft recommendations he was getting. Looking at where they were and where they are now, it’s hard for me to be critical of his path.
I started following sports in the 1940's by listening to games on radio, and I lived in NY. Pretty sure it was Red Barber (Dodgers) who used the term catbird seat, and not Mel Allen. And, thanks for the memories.
 

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I think, other than interior OL, the roster is set. The slot/speed guy is going to be Quez Watkins. At least that’s what they’re hoping.

A backup swing tackle I’d look at is Jedrick Wills. He was a top pick and has talent.
Wills is very good and has links to Petzing. The kid just hasn’t been able to stay healthy. Would be a good risk to take.
 

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guard - that's where were at - not a speedy wr

whiffed in free agency - whiffed in the draft and we aren't bringing hernandez back

guard - get one monti - you can afford it
 
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