First Depth Chart released

[Bodha]

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Observations:

1. By Krum do we need to sign some vet T's. Rob Crisp? John Wetzel?? We are 1 sprained ankle away from D'anthony Batiste caliber protection of Carson Palmer and I don't think I can handle the stress.

2. Not surprising but slightly disappointing Boehm is 3rd.

3. I really wish Wagenmann could stay healthy. No doubt in my mind he could beat out Kareem for the backup OLB job.

4. DJ Swearinger holding off Tyvon Branch....hmmm. Didn't see that coming.

 

[BigRedRage]

looks like JJ gets first crack at being our returner.

 

[BigRedRage]

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Observations:

1. By Krum do we need to sign some vet T's. Rob Crisp? John Wetzel?? We are 1 sprained ankle away from D'anthony Batiste caliber protection of Carson Palmer and I don't think I can handle the stress.

2. Not surprising but slightly disappointing Boehm is 3rd.

3. I really wish Wagenmann could stay healthy. No doubt in my mind he could beat out Kareem for the backup OLB job.

4. DJ Swearinger holding off Tyvon Branch....hmmm. Didn't see that coming.

DJ over branch is a big surprise, maybe thats why the branch signing has come with little to no noise.

We do have watford at backup tackle too so not quite batiste level, he can play.

 

[kerouac9]

DJ over branch is a big surprise, maybe thats why the branch signing has come with little to no noise.

We do have watford at backup tackle too so not quite batiste level, he can play.

That's not quite true. Watford had 4 blown pass blocks and 1 blown run block in just 199 snaps last year. That's almost 4 times the rate of Bobbie Massie (9.0 and 3.5 in 979 snaps).

 

[BigRedRage]

That's not quite true. Watford had 4 blown pass blocks and 1 blown run block in just 199 snaps last year. That's almost 4 times the rate of Bobbie Massie (9.0 and 3.5 in 979 snaps).

To the eye test, he was serviceable. Some people even didn't think Massie should get the job back. We also won 3 of the 4 games he started in. I'll take that over Batiste level play all day. My only point was, we have him as a backup so the drop off isn't to batiste level players, he is serviceable.

 

[Reddog]

To the eye test, he was serviceable. Some people even didn't think Massie should get the job back. We also won 3 of the 4 games he started in. I'll take that over Batiste level play all day. My only point was, we have him as a backup so the drop off isn't to batiste level players, he is serviceable.

But look who we played in those games. Not exactly stellar competition.

 

[Mitch]

These depth charts are always worth a few head scratches. I wonder who makes them out (BA has often scoffed at them himself---they don't come from him, that's for sure). For example:

1. The second team offensive line for the past week has been:

LT Crisp
LG McClain
C Boehm
RG Watford
RT Wetzel

They have Crisp listed at RT and Wetzel at LT.

2. D.J. Swearinger is typically used at FS and Tony Jefferson at SS...although the coaches like to interchange the safeties from time to time. But still, Jefferson plays 85% of the time in the box as a SS.

3. Ed Stinson almost always plays behind the LDE, not behind Campbell at RDE, where Mauro backs Campbell up.

Weird---whoever does this charts it from the opposite direction.

 

[Matt L]

I liked Swearinger when he got in last year for mop up duty.

 

[BigRedRage]

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Observations:

1. By Krum do we need to sign some vet T's. Rob Crisp? John Wetzel?? We are 1 sprained ankle away from D'anthony Batiste caliber protection of Carson Palmer and I don't think I can handle the stress.

2. Not surprising but slightly disappointing Boehm is 3rd.

3. I really wish Wagenmann could stay healthy. No doubt in my mind he could beat out Kareem for the backup OLB job.

4. DJ Swearinger holding off Tyvon Branch....hmmm. Didn't see that coming.

RE: branch and DJ

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[RugbyMuffin]

That's not quite true. Watford had 4 blown pass blocks and 1 blown run block in just 199 snaps last year. That's almost 4 times the rate of Bobbie Massie (9.0 and 3.5 in 979 snaps).

The real question is how does Watford compare to Batiste, but in reality no one should spend the time looking that up because it is comparing Wartford to a blade of grass.


As for the original statement, that we need another OT: Watford was fine as a backup last year, and will be fine as a backup this year. You cannot have All-Pros at each position and on the bench in the NFL. You gotta have the best depth you can have, and roll with it.

The only OT out there is Jake Long and he failed a physical with the Ravens not to long ago.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

But look who we played in those games. Not exactly stellar competition.

What options do the Cardinals have ? That is the question. Sure, we can bash Watford, but that is too easy. Thus beyond saying Watford is unacceptable, what is the better option out there.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

3. I really wish Wagenmann could stay healthy. No doubt in my mind he could beat out Kareem for the backup OLB job.

If Kareem is half as bad as this board says he is, it really makes me question why he consistently is on the 53 man roster, and is slated as a backup in the depth chart. Not sure why Martin gets such a bad rap here. He is no All-Pro, but he is the 4th OLBer on the depth chart, pretty damn good athlete to have at that spot and role.

 

[jbeecham]

Kareem Martin has just never made much of an impact on the DLine or at OLB since he got here. He was a decently high draft pick so it's dissapointing... the same can be said about Ed Stinson.

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[b8rtm8nn]

If Kareem is half as bad as this board says he is, it really makes me question why he consistently is on the 53 man roster, and is slated as a backup in the depth chart. Not sure why Martin gets such a bad rap here. He is no All-Pro, but he is the 4th OLBer on the depth chart, pretty damn good athlete to have at that spot and role.

Also considering that Kareem switched from DLine to OLB - you change how you play football, and you change your body composition. We will see over the preseason games how he has improved with a year under his belt

 

[Goldfield]

Yea I expected a little more impact from Kareem Martin.

Not worried about RT position with Watford as backup.

On paper that depth chart is as good as I have even seen a Cardinal team have. Amazing how far we've come.

 

[Redneck Voodoo]

We had Bradley Sowell at LT and won 10 games. I don't feel too bad about this line right now. Pretty sure they'll figure out how to make this work.

 

[HoodieBets]

I think swearinger may be the only weak spot besides some depth at LB and CB. He will easily get 5 unnecessary 15 yarders for helmet to helmet or defenseless receiver


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[Goldfield]

I think swearinger may be the only weak spot besides some depth at LB and CB. He will easily get 5 unnecessary 15 yarders for helmet to helmet or defenseless receiver


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He also brings a nasty toughness this team has been lacking since AW left.

 

[HoodieBets]

He also brings a nasty toughness this team has been lacking since AW left.

Same amount of bonehead plays as AW without the pro bowl talent. We have enough guys on the defense who bring the nasty HB being one of the main ones with deone


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[vince56]

Is this the first time we've actually seen "$LB" in print? We've heard this for 2 years now, but it's still a hilarious new name for a position!

 

[CFLredzoned]

Is this the first time we've actually seen "$LB" in print? We've heard this for 2 years now, but it's still a hilarious new name for a position!

Maybe they figured we should hurry up and make this official now before Pete Carrol tries to take credit for it.

 

[BigRedRage]

He's been listed as $lb for a bit now, pretty sure it was on last year's depth chart

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[BACH]

Kareem Martin has just never made much of an impact on the DLine or at OLB since he got here. He was a decently high draft pick so it's dissapointing... the same can be said about Ed Stinson.

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Stinson is a 5th round selection, who has been a solid rotational player in his first Two season and is pushing for a starting roles in his third according to this. Dissappointing???

 

[MrYeahBut]

Same amount of bonehead plays as AW without the pro bowl talent. We have enough guys on the defense who bring the nasty HB being one of the main ones with deone

I don't remember him making bone head plays.. But my memory doesn't serve me well sometimes.

 

[BACH]

Kareem Martin has just never made much of an impact on the DLine or at OLB since he got here. He was a decently high draft pick so it's dissapointing... the same can be said about Ed Stinson.

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Stinson is a 5th round selection, who has been a solid rotational player in his first Two season and is pushing for a starting roles in his third according to this. Dissappointing!!!!

I think swearinger may be the only weak spot besides some depth at LB and CB. He will easily get 5 unnecessary 15 yarders for helmet to helmet or defenseless receiver


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Based on what? The Hard Knocks episodes where he was too much. He hasn't shown it on the field.
Remember Swearinger was a High 2nd rounder that is considered Weird/a loner. Maybe the locker rooms in his previous teams couldn't absorb a player like that or maybe Swearinger figured out how to fit into a team here. I don't know, but there has never been any question about his level of talent