First Setback of the season?

[Shane]

i don't agree.He plays LB and,like almost every other LB, gets dinged. Julian Peterson has a history because he's missed almost an entire year because of an achilles.Berry and Okeafor have injury histories as well.They have missed significant time. Plus Dansby has played when he's hurt unlike some god-like WR who was "saving himself for the playoffs".

That same godlike WR who still played with a fractured hip and with his tendons seperated from the bone?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

That same godlike WR who still played with a fractured hip and with his tendons seperated from the bone?

yes that one.

 

[Shane]

yes that one.

Thats what I thought.

 

[jaguarpaw81]

Are you saying that is because of Whiz's coaching?

Not at all.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Thats what I thought.

it wasn't that bad, his leg was still attached . In fairness, i can't remember exactly, but didn't Dansby also play through some kind of very painful injury to the tendon in his toe. I was just trying to make a point that Dansby is every bit a gamer as Boldin but doesn't get the props that Q does.

 

[40yearfan]

C'mon guys. Dansby, Boldin and all the rest are on our team. The will all be out there playing their hearts out when this season starts. Once this team starts playing real games and winning them, it will become contagious and these guys will expect to win every game. We have competition, we have depth and we have a real coaching staff. Our motto this year is "No More Excuses". We are going to release the juggernaut that is the Cardinals and kick butt and take names. Climb on the band wagon boys. We just put a new engine in it.

 

[Shane]

it wasn't that bad, his leg was still attached . In fairness, i can't remember exactly, but didn't Dansby also play through some kind of very painful injury to the tendon in his toe. I was just trying to make a point that Dansby is every bit a gamer as Boldin but doesn't get the props that Q does.

Dansby had a toe injury at the beginning of the previous season from what I remember. He ended up being fine and playing with rest after missing first game of seaon IIRC?

Q finished a game (ravens) with a fractured hip and a completely seperated tendon from the bone. Scored two TD's post injury if Im not mistaken? He sat out 3 games and came back early before he was fully healed even though he was trying to wait for playoffs if he could. I dont see any reason to try and call him out for lack of toughness when we know that isnt the case.

I agree that Dansby is a gamer!

 

[Sandan]

i guess missing training camp with an injury in 2006 makes him an injury risk in some people's mind because the most games he's ever missed during the regular season is 2. Peyton Manning is out 4-6 weeks and will miss most of camp. I guess he's an injury risk now.

I though he had missed more than that ?

I also remember an offseason where there were questions as to if he would ever be able to play again ?

 

[Shane]

I though he had missed more than that ?

I also remember an offseason where there were questions as to if he would ever be able to play again ?

He did. He has missed two games each of the last two years and another game in 2005. It was at the beginning of the 2006 season when they were concerned about a career ending toe injury.

 

[Sandan]

No cheapskate history?

What a cheap shot!

Dansby has played his rear off for the Cards and his production is even more impressive when you consider who was coaching the team his first 3 years in the league.

To insinuate that he is a slacker is beyond ridiculous.

I don't understand this post ?


I really thought he had been injured more and I never mentioned being a slacker ? Am Confused

 

[Cheesebeef]

I though he had missed more than that ?

I also remember an offseason where there were questions as to if he would ever be able to play again ?

do you mean the offseason when Hardy Brown (who I'm pretty sure was a Cardinal employee) came on here with his smear campaign, telling us how much of a cancer Dansby was while Langston Moore was really gonna turn some heads *before being amongst the first people cut? Dansby is pretty much the only guy on this team with world class everything. Speed and size. Able to attack the QB and be able to excel in coverage. LBers like him DON'T grow on trees. The fact that he's been able to do what he's done surrounded by trash on the field and the sidelines for the majority of his career impresses me to no end. I expect him gone after the season.

Good thing thought that we gave Gerald Hayes (totally injury prone, nonplaymaker when he got his extension) and Darnell Dockett (who had accomplished very little since hgis rookie year when he got his extension) done before the only world class talent on the defense. I'll never understand how Dansby wasn't given an extension before those guys and they got them two years ago.

 

[Shane]

do you mean the offseason when Hardy Brown (who I'm pretty sure was a Cardinal employee) came on here with his smear campaign, telling us how much of a cancer Dansby was while Langston Moore was really gonna turn some heads *before being amongst the first people cut? Dansby is pretty much the only guy on this team with world class everything. Speed and size. Able to attack the QB and be able to excel in coverage. LBers like him DON'T grow on trees. The fact that he's been able to do what he's done surrounded by trash on the field and the sidelines for the majority of his career impresses me to no end. I expect him gone after the season.

Good thing thought that we gave Gerald Hayes (totally injury prone, nonplaymaker when he got his extension) and Darnell Dockett (who had accomplished very little since hgis rookie year when he got his extension) done before the only world class talent on the defense. I'll never understand how Dansby wasn't given an extension before those guys and they got them two years ago.

Are you trying to imply that we should not have signed Hayes?

Hayes was pretty damn stellar last year. Not quite as good as the year before but good none the less and a very smart extension.

98 tackles 4 sacks, 1 Int, FF and a TD isnt to shabby for a middle LBer IMHO.

 

[DaisyCutter]

Are you trying to imply that we should not have signed Hayes?

Hayes was pretty damn stellar last year. Not quite as good as the year before but good none the less and a very smart extension.

98 tackles 4 sacks, 1 Int, FF and a TD isnt to shabby for a middle LBer IMHO.

Unless you want to look around the rest of the division or the rest of the NFL. Check out how Lofa Tatupu did last season, or John DiGiorgio (http://www.nfl.com/players/johndigiorgio/profile?id=DIG428790).

Hayes was just real all right, but the Cards aren't going to come of age--and their fans aren't going to have a clue--until they realize that a guy like Gerald Hayes is exactly the kind of player that can be found for cheap in any draft of free agency period.

Guys like Karlos Dansby are much, much harder to replace.

 

[jaguarpaw81]

Are you trying to imply that we should not have signed Hayes?

Hayes was pretty damn stellar last year. Not quite as good as the year before but good none the less and a very smart extension.

98 tackles 4 sacks, 1 Int, FF and a TD isnt to shabby for a middle LBer IMHO.

I dont think he was saying anything about Hayes other than it was ridiculous for the FO to concentrate on extending him before they did so with Dansby. Hard to argue with his point IMO.

 

[Shane]

I dont think he was saying anything about Hayes other than it was ridiculous for the FO to concentrate on extending him before they did so with Dansby. Hard to argue with his point IMO.

Yes it is considering Hayes contract was up first?

 

[Shane]

Unless you want to look around the rest of the division or the rest of the NFL. Check out how Lofa Tatupu did last season, or John DiGiorgio (http://www.nfl.com/players/johndigiorgio/profile?id=DIG428790).

Hayes was just real all right, but the Cards aren't going to come of age--and their fans aren't going to have a clue--until they realize that a guy like Gerald Hayes is exactly the kind of player that can be found for cheap in any draft of free agency period.

Guys like Karlos Dansby are much, much harder to replace.

The guy you had put a link to had less sacks and the same amount of Ints with no TD to go with it. He was better in Tackles.

Tatupu? Who the hell would try and comapre Hayes to tatupu? Although outside of the tackle #s Tatupus "playmaking" ability prior to last year is nothing to write home about IMO. Last year was more on par with Hayes 06.

Hayes is a very good player no matter how much you may try and make us believe otherwise. Is he all world? Is he a pernneial PBer? No. But a good player none the less.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

do you mean the offseason when Hardy Brown (who I'm pretty sure was a Cardinal employee) came on here with his smear campaign, telling us how much of a cancer Dansby was while Langston Moore was really gonna turn some heads *before being amongst the first people cut? Dansby is pretty much the only guy on this team with world class everything. Speed and size. Able to attack the QB and be able to excel in coverage. LBers like him DON'T grow on trees. The fact that he's been able to do what he's done surrounded by trash on the field and the sidelines for the majority of his career impresses me to no end. I expect him gone after the season.

Good thing thought that we gave Gerald Hayes (totally injury prone, nonplaymaker when he got his extension) and Darnell Dockett (who had accomplished very little since hgis rookie year when he got his extension) done before the only world class talent on the defense. I'll never understand how Dansby wasn't given an extension before those guys and they got them two years ago.

well said. We have 2 world class talents on defense in Dansby and Wilson. Hopefully,DRC can make it 3. We have two on offense in Fitz and Q. Dansby has seen the other guys get new deals,you can't blame him for wondering why he has been passed over.You should easily be able to keep you top 4 players locked up.I agree that he will be elsewhere next year and will continue to be a beast but will be playing for a team that increases his exposure.Thus,he becomes a perrenial all-pro/pro bowler. The one glimmer of hope is that Dansby continues to light it up this year and pretty much forces the Cards tag him again next year.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

do you mean the offseason when Hardy Brown (who I'm pretty sure was a Cardinal employee) came on here with his smear campaign, telling us how much of a cancer Dansby was while Langston Moore was really gonna turn some heads *before being amongst the first people cut? Dansby is pretty much the only guy on this team with world class everything. Speed and size. Able to attack the QB and be able to excel in coverage. LBers like him DON'T grow on trees. The fact that he's been able to do what he's done surrounded by trash on the field and the sidelines for the majority of his career impresses me to no end. I expect him gone after the season.

Good thing thought that we gave Gerald Hayes (totally injury prone, nonplaymaker when he got his extension) and Darnell Dockett (who had accomplished very little since hgis rookie year when he got his extension) done before the only world class talent on the defense. I'll never understand how Dansby wasn't given an extension before those guys and they got them two years ago.

Today is a good day. Nice to see CB back in here injecting a little life into the board.

Great point. On Dansby.

Not to say Hayes, or Dockett aren't good extension signings but Dansby is far superior and has been since he was drafted.

 

[DaisyCutter]

The guy you had put a link to had less sacks and the same amount of Ints with no TD to go with it. He was better in Tackles.

Tatupu? Who the hell would try and comapre Hayes to tatupu? Although outside of the tackle #s Tatupus "playmaking" ability prior to last year is nothing to write home about IMO. Last year was more on par with Hayes 06.

Hayes is a very good player no matter how much you may try and make us believe otherwise. Is he all world? Is he a pernneial PBer? No. But a good player none the less.

I wasn't the one who said that his year was "stellar". That was you. One would think that "stellar" would imply that his performance ranked him among the stars.

I agree that he's a solid player. He makes exactly what he should be making, and the Cards shouldn't be in any hurry to replace him. But none of the changes the fact that he's the weakest MLB in the division (Tatupu, who was apparently "nothing to write home about" managed to nab 4 INTs and force 3 fumbles to go with his 9 passes defensed last season--and he went to the Pro Bowl). And he's not among the Top 10 or maybe even 15 MLBs in the NFL.

 

[Duckjake]

The guy you had put a link to had less sacks and the same amount of Ints with no TD to go with it. He was better in Tackles.

Tatupu? Who the hell would try and comapre Hayes to tatupu? Although outside of the tackle #s Tatupus "playmaking" ability prior to last year is nothing to write home about IMO. Last year was more on par with Hayes 06.

Hayes is a very good player no matter how much you may try and make us believe otherwise. Is he all world? Is he a pernneial PBer? No. But a good player none the less.

I agree that he's a solid player. He makes exactly what he should be making, and the Cards shouldn't be in any hurry to replace him.

Right. Hayes is the kind of player you must have in a league with a salary cap.