Fitz are you paying attention???

[Cbus cardsfan]

The problem with coming to him for a pay cut is that he could get, IMO, pretty close to that $16M in 2015 from someone if he gets cut.

Wow, that would be a lot. Thing is most teams that have a chance to win, other than Seattle, have their #1 receiving target and I doubt they'd pay Fitz more.
NE-Gronk, but Fitz would be a good fit there. I just can't see them paying him 16 mill. I guess it's possible on a 1 year deal.
Pitt- Brown, and they have a good young corp.
Den- They need to pay both Thomas's
Cincy- Green
Balt- could be a good option.
SD- another possible landing spot.
Indy- already has their Fitz in Wayne and Hilton leads a promising young group.
KC- I guess they could show interest but doubt they'd cough up a bunch of money with that pass offense.
Dall- need to pay Bryant
Philly- they have plenty of WR's.
Det- CJ and Tate
GB- no chance they pay him
Minn- young team, hometown, possible destination but are they contenders?
Car- good fit.
NO- nah
Atl- Julio
Sea- would Fitz do that?
SF- same as Sea.
Stl.- no QB.

So, I guess there are options but I still think he'd make more staying with the Cards than going to one of those teams and, all things being equal, I also think he'd stay in Arizona.

If the Cards would let him on the market, I think Minny and Carolina would be the biggest competitors. Still, $16 mill is a bunch of money for him.

 

[Tyler3450]

I don't blame Fitz for taking every penny he can. I'll celebrate if he stays, and I'll be sad if he goes but not angry. That said, he doesn't have "$24 million coming next season." He's scheduled to make $16M in salary and bonus.

The problem with coming to him for a pay cut is that he could get, IMO, pretty close to that $16M in 2015 from someone if he gets cut.

I don't see any contender that he would even want to go to paying him 16mil
Im thinking 8-10mil but loaded with incentives

 

[kerouac9]

Wow, that would be a lot. Thing is most teams that have a chance to win, other than Seattle, have their #1 receiving target and I doubt they'd pay Fitz more.
NE-Gronk, but Fitz would be a good fit there. I just can't see them paying him 16 mill. I guess it's possible on a 1 year deal.
Pitt- Brown, and they have a good young corp.
Den- They need to pay both Thomas's
Cincy- Green
Balt- could be a good option.
SD- another possible landing spot.
Indy- already has their Fitz in Wayne and Hilton leads a promising young group.
KC- I guess they could show interest but doubt they'd cough up a bunch of money with that pass offense.
Dall- need to pay Bryant
Philly- they have plenty of WR's.
Det- CJ and Tate
GB- no chance they pay him
Minn- young team, hometown, possible destination but are they contenders?
Car- good fit.
NO- nah
Atl- Julio
Sea- would Fitz do that?
SF- same as Sea.
Stl.- no QB.

So, I guess there are options but I still think he'd make more staying with the Cards than going to one of those teams and, all things being equal, I also think he'd stay in Arizona.

If the Cards would let him on the market, I think Minny and Carolina would be the biggest competitors. Still, $16 mill is a bunch of money for him.

Well, as you know, there are a lot of ways to get to $16M in 2015 and have a nice cap number this year. a 4-year, $30M deal with $12M signing bonus and $4M salary would have a cap number of $8M this year--you can slide those pieces however you want.

Money, to Fitz, is more important than winning. His words say different, but look at his actions. The thing with the NFL is that it's a year-to-year league. There's no reason that Minnesota can't be contenders next year. It'd be interesting to see Fitz in a Browns uniform or Tennessee uniform next year.

 

[Tyler3450]

Money, to Fitz, is more important than winning. His words say different, but look at his actions. The thing with the NFL is that it's a year-to-year league. There's no reason that Minnesota can't be contenders next year. It'd be interesting to see Fitz in a Browns uniform or Tennessee uniform next year.

Money is important to Fitz but being the best is also important... I think he sees what Randy Moss did at 31 by going to the pats and would want to do the same.... be paid and play for a contender with an elite qb... THATS NOT Minnesota, Cleveland, or Tennessee

 

[kerouac9]

Money is important to Fitz but being the best is also important... I think he sees what Randy Moss did at 31 by going to the pats and would want to do the same.... be paid and play for a contender with an elite qb... THATS NOT Minnesota, Cleveland, or Tennessee

1) Tom Brady was not an elite QB before Moss went to New England.

2) What's the evidence you have that Fitz's committment to winning/playing with an elite QB approaches his desire to get paid or put up stats?

3) Can you predict the future? Who are you to say that Minnesota, Cleveland, or Tennessee can't or won't be competitive a year from now?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Didn't run.. It's just a fact TB gave up 24 million in GUARANTEED money for a nominal raise... Epitome of unselfishness even if it allows him to not be traded... GUARANTEED $$ is what it's all about to 99% of today's greedy athlete.

A. He is protected against injury
B. If (and that is a big IF) he were cut he'd get paid the same or maybe even more.

He gave up nothing and gain control of his destiny.

 

[kerouac9]

A. He is protected against injury
B. If (and that is a big IF) he were cut he'd get paid the same or maybe even more.

He gave up nothing and gain control of his destiny.

That's speculation, and the opposite of a guarantee.

 

[Tyler3450]

1) Tom Brady was not an elite QB before Moss went to New England.

2) What's the evidence you have that Fitz's committment to winning/playing with an elite QB approaches his desire to get paid or put up stats?

3) Can you predict the future? Who are you to say that Minnesota, Cleveland, or Tennessee can't or won't be competitive a year from now?

1. won three superbowls before moss was ever in a new england jersey. He was an elite qb, he just became a freak stats wise once moss signed. Hence what I'm saying about making fitz want to go to somewhere like that. Brady or Bridgewater... is it even close?

2. He is now put in the situation to make a decision... he won't leave us if we are willing to pay him competitive to whats out there to go to a team like titans, browns, or vikings.

3. can you? you are saying you could see him going to one of those places lol

 

[Tyler3450]

1) Tom Brady was not an elite QB before Moss went to New England.

2) What's the evidence you have that Fitz's committment to winning/playing with an elite QB approaches his desire to get paid or put up stats?

3) Can you predict the future? Who are you to say that Minnesota, Cleveland, or Tennessee can't or won't be competitive a year from now?

Again all this is speculation but i stand by if he leaves its to go to a place where he can be the number 1 option at wr... get paid like the number 1 and have an elite qb and chance to win a Super Bowl...

Goes to Minnesota has to deal with the Packers and has teddy at qb
stays here has to deal with the seahawks has carson at qb
goes to new england has to deal with jets, bills, dolphins and has brady at qb


if you are to get the same money which one would you chose?

 

[Tyler3450]

1) Tom Brady was not an elite QB before Moss went to New England.

2) What's the evidence you have that Fitz's committment to winning/playing with an elite QB approaches his desire to get paid or put up stats?

3) Can you predict the future? Who are you to say that Minnesota, Cleveland, or Tennessee can't or won't be competitive a year from now?

Also I guess I'm not the only one that believes in number 2...
"Fitzgerald wants to win a Super Bowl, but he also wants to get into the Hall of Fame, and his numbers haven’t been gaudy of late as a Cardinal. He isn’t going to be the focal point of this offense, not when Bruce Arians wants to make sure the ball moves around. Fitzgerald will never say anything publicly, because it isn’t his way"

from darren urban today.

 

[kerouac9]

Also I guess I'm not the only one that believes in number 2...
"Fitzgerald wants to win a Super Bowl, but he also wants to get into the Hall of Fame, and his numbers haven’t been gaudy of late as a Cardinal. He isn’t going to be the focal point of this offense, not when Bruce Arians wants to make sure the ball moves around. Fitzgerald will never say anything publicly, because it isn’t his way"

from darren urban today.

Don't look at his words, look at his actions. Yes, Larry Fitzgerald would prefer to win a Super Bowl than not--who wouldn't? But is Fitz willing to sacrifice his stats/money for that goal?

Show me.

 

[Tyler3450]

Don't look at his words, look at his actions. Yes, Larry Fitzgerald would prefer to win a Super Bowl than not--who wouldn't? But is Fitz willing to sacrifice his stats/money for that goal?

Show me.

i think you are nuts to think he would go anywhere but a winner.... Minnesota is the only place i could even somewhat make myself believe is a possibility... but highly doubt it.

 

[kerouac9]

i think you are nuts to think he would go anywhere but a winner.... Minnesota is the only place i could even somewhat make myself believe is a possibility... but highly doubt it.

Why? Based on what you want to believe about Larry Fitzgerald, or what he's shown is true.

Fitz signed a massive extension with the Cards following an 8-8 season when he held the Cards hostage in free agency for a week in 2008 and the Cards lost a couple of key free agent targets.

Fitz signed an even more massive contract extension in August of 2011 after a 5-11 season and when the Cards decided their solution at quarterback was Kevin Kolb.

From my experience with Pro Athletes, they usually believe that anywhere they're going to go is a winner--Karlos Dansby is the illustration of this.

Again, maybe Fitz gives back money to stay here and get less than 800 yards a year. I doubt that's something he'd do, but it's possible.

 

[Buckybird]

I've said it over & over & I'm not backing away from it...Fitz is being totally misused in this offense being played in the slot so much.

It's gonna suck seeing him go, but nobody is worth the coin he's gonna get next year unless it's a top of the line QB. #11 will prove his still got play making ability next year when he has 1200-1300 yds & 10 TDs if he's healthy write it down.

 

[Shane]

#11 will prove his still got play making ability next year when he has 1200-1300 yds & 10 TDs if he's healthy write it down.

Been hearing this type of prediction for the last 3 years from a myriad of posters reference #11 ... Hasent happened yet...

 

[cardpa]

Why? Based on what you want to believe about Larry Fitzgerald, or what he's shown is true.

Fitz signed a massive extension with the Cards following an 8-8 season when he held the Cards hostage in free agency for a week in 2008 and the Cards lost a couple of key free agent targets.

Fitz signed an even more massive contract extension in August of 2011 after a 5-11 season and when the Cards decided their solution at quarterback was Kevin Kolb.

From my experience with Pro Athletes, they usually believe that anywhere they're going to go is a winner--Karlos Dansby is the illustration of this.

Again, maybe Fitz gives back money to stay here and get less than 800 yards a year. I doubt that's something he'd do, but it's possible.

I totally agree with you K9, Fitz is all about the money, he just goes about it in a way that deflects the perception that he is only interested in the money. Your statement about the Cardinals gradually moving away from Fitz being linked to everything on their web site, etc. is a very interesting observation. I also think you are pretty spot on that Fitz is here for 2015 because his cap it is $16 million which I do think SK has accounted for. Beyond that when his cap hit really accelerates then all bets are off.

The only way I see his departure is if the team gets high interests from some FAs who really want to come to AZ but they would need to clear cap room. Then Fitz may be on the cutting block, however it would have to be quick since they would need to make a deal before the March roster bonus or else it just doesn't make sense. I think they learned their lesson with the DWash fiasco.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I totally agree with you K9, Fitz is all about the money, he just goes about it in a way that deflects the perception that he is only interested in the money. Your statement about the Cardinals gradually moving away from Fitz being linked to everything on their web site, etc. is a very interesting observation. I also think you are pretty spot on that Fitz is here for 2015 because his cap it is $16 million which I do think SK has accounted for. Beyond that when his cap hit really accelerates then all bets are off.

The only way I see his departure is if the team gets high interests from some FAs who really want to come to AZ but they would need to clear cap room. Then Fitz may be on the cutting block, however it would have to be quick since they would need to make a deal before the March roster bonus or else it just doesn't make sense. I think they learned their lesson with the DWash fiasco.

His CAP hit in 2015 is $23M.

 

[GuernseyCard]

The complete story re: BRADY:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-contract/

 

[WisconsinCard]

That's speculation, and the opposite of a guarantee.

Nothing is guaranteed, if he were to meet his end he would get nothing as well. So you can call it whatever you want, but I choose to see it as "a reasonable expectation". If he plays he'll get paid, especially in a QB starved league.

 

[Darkside]

The complete story re: BRADY:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-contract/

Good read, thanks.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Wow, that would be a lot. Thing is most teams that have a chance to win, other than Seattle, have their #1 receiving target and I doubt they'd pay Fitz more.
NE-Gronk, but Fitz would be a good fit there. I just can't see them paying him 16 mill. I guess it's possible on a 1 year deal.
Pitt- Brown, and they have a good young corp.
Den- They need to pay both Thomas's
Cincy- Green
Balt- could be a good option.
SD- another possible landing spot.
Indy- already has their Fitz in Wayne and Hilton leads a promising young group.
KC- I guess they could show interest but doubt they'd cough up a bunch of money with that pass offense.
Dall- need to pay Bryant
Philly- they have plenty of WR's.
Det- CJ and Tate
GB- no chance they pay him
Minn- young team, hometown, possible destination but are they contenders?
Car- good fit.
NO- nah
Atl- Julio
Sea- would Fitz do that?
SF- same as Sea.
Stl.- no QB.

So, I guess there are options but I still think he'd make more staying with the Cards than going to one of those teams and, all things being equal, I also think he'd stay in Arizona.

If the Cards would let him on the market, I think Minny and Carolina would be the biggest competitors. Still, $16 mill is a bunch of money for him.

It going to take an off the wall franchise... Washington lol

 

[GatorAZ]

How much money have the Cards paid Fitz over the course of his career? Possibly top-5 all time in career earning from one franchise?

 

[Buckybird]

Been hearing this type of prediction for the last 3 years from a myriad of posters reference #11 ... Hasent happened yet...

I'll come find u next year when your wrong Copper
Lol

 

[Shane]

I'll come find u next year when your wrong Copper
Lol

Please do

 

[82CardsGrad]

1) Tom Brady was not an elite QB before Moss went to New England.?

You can't be serious...