Fitzgerald says his role limits his production

[Shane]

About the only thread in history where I am in complete agreement with K9... You are spot on bro in every way!!!

 

[Jetstream Green]

I like Fitzgerald more than Boldin... that is all I want to say

 

[GatorAZ]

Not once did I see Fitzgerald get a deep ball thrown to him. Fitz was never a speed receiver. So he is misused, to a certain extent.

He was explosive out of routes which has visibly declined. Speed is overrated.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Good player still? Yes.. But highly overrated on this board.

At one point he was ratings were justified, but those days are gone and have been for a while.

These days I agree, he is overrated in what is expected.

Over all I agree he is a good player. For the role he is taking on currently he is great for the Cardinals.

Block, make clutch catches in traffic, and continue to be the face of the franchise.

Yes, being face of the franchise matters, this is a business and you need to have selling points.

That 11 million he is getting paid this year doesn't pay itself, LOL

 

[Buckybird]

I like Fitzgerald more than Boldin... that is all I want to say

You're gonna make Shane pull his taser on you & arrest a Texan with comments like that. Then he'll tie you up like a hog in his 35 Quan jerseys lol

 

[Jetstream Green]

You're gonna make Shane pull his taser on you & arrest a Texan with comments like that. Then he'll tie you up like a hog in his 35 Quan jerseys lol

I ain't skeered lol

 

[Shane]

At one point he was ratings were justified, but those days are gone and have been for a while.

These days I agree, he is overrated in what is expected.

Over all I agree he is a good player. For the role he is taking on currently he is great for the Cardinals.

Block, make clutch catches in traffic, and continue to be the face of the franchise.

Yes, being face of the franchise matters, this is a business and you need to have selling points.

That 11 million he is getting paid this year doesn't pay itself, LOL

With profit sharing and TV deals the "face of the franchise" is way overstated and overused again by many... And he hasn't been the face for at least two years the team now and has had other players plastered as their "face" if you haven't noticed I don't know what to say...

 

[RugbyMuffin]

With profit sharing and TV deals the "face of the franchise" is way overstated and overused again by many... And he hasn't been the face for at least two years the team now and has had other players plastered as their "face" if you haven't noticed I don't know what to say...

I wouldn't notice. I don't live in Arizona. So locally I cannot comment.

But, FYI, on the national stage, he is still the symbol for the Cardinals. He is on the the promos on the NFL channel, and on NFL.com. He does phone commercials, internet ads, and is the only Cardinals I see here on the east coast.

Again, that is nationally, if things have changed locally then I wouldn't know.

As for the importance of the face of your franchise, I think you are wrong in your opinion on that. The #11 jersey has created more Arizona fans on a national level than any Arizona Cardinal ever. Thus will have to agree to disagree on that.

 

[Cardiac]

I wouldn't notice. I don't live in Arizona. So locally I cannot comment.

But, FYI, on the national stage, he is still the symbol for the Cardinals. He is on the the promos on the NFL channel, and on NFL.com. He does phone commercials, internet ads, and is the only Cardinals I see here on the east coast.

Again, that is nationally, if things have changed locally then I wouldn't know.

As for the importance of the face of your franchise, I think you are wrong in your opinion on that. The #11 jersey has created more Arizona fans on a national level than any Arizona Cardinal ever. Thus will have to agree to disagree on that.

I'm with you on this Rugby.

Fitz loves his money as much if not more than any NFL player but he bleeds Cardinal red as much as ADUB or any other Cardinal ever has.

Fitz is fast enough and he does help get Floyd and Brown more opportunities. I expect this year Brown and Floyd will help create more chances for Fitz as they take their games to the next level.

 

[cardncubfan]

Is he though? Or do guys like John Brown reap the benefits of having him on the roster? We saw how bad our offense was when he was out last year.

I wouldn't notice. I don't live in Arizona. So locally I cannot comment.

But, FYI, on the national stage, he is still the symbol for the Cardinals. He is on the the promos on the NFL channel, and on NFL.com. He does phone commercials, internet ads, and is the only Cardinals I see here on the east coast.

Again, that is nationally, if things have changed locally then I wouldn't know.

As for the importance of the face of your franchise, I think you are wrong in your opinion on that. The #11 jersey has created more Arizona fans on a national level than any Arizona Cardinal ever. Thus will have to agree to disagree on that.

I'm with you on this Rugby.

Fitz loves his money as much if not more than any NFL player but he bleeds Cardinal red as much as ADUB or any other Cardinal ever has.

Fitz is fast enough and he does help get Floyd and Brown more opportunities. I expect this year Brown and Floyd will help create more chances for Fitz as they take their games to the next level.

Agree with all three.

 

[oaken1]

yup.

 

[WildBB]

With profit sharing and TV deals the "face of the franchise" is way overstated and overused again by many... And he hasn't been the face for at least two years the team now and has had other players plastered as their "face" if you haven't noticed I don't know what to say...

Lets give Palmer and Fitz 16 games together in the 3rd yr. of BA's system and come back to this.

 

[Cheesebeef]

for everyone talking about Larry as the "face of the franchise", have you been in a coma for the last two years? The face of the franchise is Bruce Arians. He's the reason we're getting national TV games, he's the reason people talk about us as a dark-horse... he's the reason we're even mentioned as a possible landing spot for AP. He's pretty much the first and only thing people talk about when they talk Cardinals.

He's the 2-time Coach Of The Year, who has put the Cardinals on the map. Not a WR who hasn't had 1000 yards in 3 years (man... that says A LOT about where Larry is).

 

[BigRedRage]

for everyone talking about Larry as the "face of the franchise", have you been in a coma for the last two years? The face of the franchise is Bruce Arians. He's the reason we're getting national TV games, he's the reason people talk about us as a dark-horse... he's the reason we're even mentioned as a possible landing spot for AP. He's pretty much the first and only thing people talk about when they talk Cardinals.

He's the 2-time Coach Of The Year, who has put the Cardinals on the map. Not a WR who hasn't had 1000 yards in 3 years (man... that says A LOT about where Larry is).

Locally Honey Badger has been the player I see the most on TV, ads and etc. Him and Fitz.

HB needs to have a big year again as he is teetering right on the superstar line.

 

[Chopper0080]

That sure is a lot of opinion, and assumption to try can say that my thoughts are ridiculous.

The NFL is a business, if a player doesn't use his skill and production to negotiate his contract then he is a fool.

As for his comments, I think the man is answering the questions posed to him. He seems to be quite comfortable with his role the way I see, and it seems it is the fans/media that are not. If he says he is fine with his lowered production then he is called out for not being competitive, if he says he is not happy with his production then he is called out for being selfish. It is a no win situation for him. Thus I do not see what he gains through complaining.

In my opinion, the guy does everything you can ask for. As for the business side of things, my opinion is noted here and in previous posts. I cannot debate your assumptions.



Fitz is a competitor, and has always been concerned with where he ranks in the league financially, and what his leagacy after football looks like. He was never going to go to another team because he would have bean paid like an average WR, and would have still produced like an average WR.



LOL. Cause Fitzgerald wrote up the original contract right, and then put a gun to Graves' head to sign it right ?

Fitzgerald got a standard contract for his draft placement and hit every escalator in the contract. Since then he has done what you do in business situations and take the opportunities that are put before you. Again, just like every other professional athlete does. If you personally have a problem with how the Cardinals handled Fitzgerald, then you should send them a letter for your discontent.



A player who used to leave the locker room early so he didn't have to talk to the media, all of a sudden is a master of weaving a web of media for negotiation purposes ? If you believe that then those are your words.

Also, I think that Fitzgerald's personality, his ability to be a gentleman, to be a spokesman, the fact he is one of the best receivers of all time, put himself on the map by having one of the best playoff runs in front of the nation, and through hard work, dedication, and even in the face of playing with some of the worst QB's that have ever played in the NFL, has the respect of his peers, coaches, and fans, have something to do with him staying in the spot light.

How about a little respect for the skill the guy brings to the game, at this point if you read this entire thread, its like people are saying Fitzgerald is a over hyped Bryant Johnson. Which is not even worth debating cause it is just plain not true.

:hatersgonnahate:

Commenting on the difference between his pay and his production doesn't put any blame on Fitz. Commenting on Fitz providing reasons of why his production will be sub par before the season even starts is different from that, but is warranted. He is trying to protect his legacy by lowering the expectations of the public by stating the system is the reason. That is a very interesting brand of leadership.

 

[Chopper0080]

Nope.

But he is going to be paid that anyway. He is going to be a hell of a player for the Cardinals as well.

Again, how is it Fitzgerald's fault what he gets paid?

Roger Goodell is going to get paid hundreds of millions of dollars next year and he will continue to suck at his job.

Please keep in mind we are talking about the oringal post that talks about production in his current role with the team.

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His role is the #1 WR on the team. The system is such that the ball goes to the WR that is open. If Fitz is not getting the ball as much, it is because he is not getting open. That is not a characteristic of a #1 WR.

 

[oaken1]

His role is the #1 WR on the team. The system is such that the ball goes to the WR that is open. If Fitz is not getting the ball as much, it is because he is not getting open. That is not a characteristic of a #1 WR.

apparently his role is NOT #1 WR....he is now a slot WR is he not?

 

[BigRedRage]

apparently his role is NOT #1 WR....he is now a slot WR is he not?

even in the slot he will likely be our #1 statistically.

 

[Chopper0080]

apparently his role is NOT #1 WR....he is now a slot WR is he not?

No, he is our primary WR who is asked to move around and play a variety of positions like the Colts used Reggie Wayne. That is his role.