Floyd is a patriot lol

[Brian in Mesa]

I find humor in senseless overreactions. Did Floyd kill anyone? Did he hit anything? I have friends who were killed by people driving poorly. Have you ever driven poorly? Should I lump you in with their killers? I had a kid I coached killed by a texting driver. Have you ever done anything but be at ten and two when driving? Nobody is advocating for drunk driving but the post I quoted was ridiculous.

I didn't think it was a senseless overreaction. It was one poster's opinion based on the selfish and senseless actions of a multimillionaire player who couldn't be responsible enough to call a cab or Uber or use his free ride from the NFL. With so many resources at his disposal, he still went out and got loaded knowing he'd be driving. Floyd is an idiot. Period. I hope he gets the help he clearly needs off the field, but this is such a sensitive life-and-death issue that it is completely understandable to me why some would not wish him well.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

*mikedrop*

I know the thread has taken a turn towards serious, but *mikedrop* is the perfect term for him dropping a pass.

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[Bodha]

In your world is it all 2nd time DUI offender's that should be imprisoned for life or only NFL players?

Anybody. 2nd DUI should be punishable by life imprisonment.

Now go ahead and tell me how its not a big deal.

 

[Matt L]

Anybody. 2nd DUI should be punishable by life imprisonment.

Now go ahead and tell me how its not a big deal.

I am not downplaying the problems and impacts of DUIs but I am not aware of any state having this severe of a penalty for a 2nd offense.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Anybody. 2nd DUI should be punishable by life imprisonment.

Now go ahead and tell me how its not a big deal.

Life in prison? Murderers don't even get life in prison lol

 

[Bodha]

Life in prison? Murderers don't even get life in prison lol

they should too.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

they should too.

What about red light runners? Life in prison?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Anybody. 2nd DUI should be punishable by life imprisonment.

Now go ahead and tell me how its not a big deal.

I don't make the leap to life imprisonment if they are lucky enough to not hit or kill anyone, but a second DUI shows you have a serious problem and the first DUI arrest did not mean a thing to you. A second DUI should definitely result in some jail time and cost you your driver's license. The consequences need to match the crime, IMHO.

I could see serious prison time for any offender, especially a repeat offender, that injures or kills someone.

I do not believe that drinking and driving is taken as seriously as it should be. Never has been. I've lost friends to drinking and driving and been hit head-on by an extremely drunk driver (2-3 times the limit). That driver ultimately was charged with multiple felonies - he had his young son in the car with him, was more than twice the limit, had no proof of insurance, and fled the scene on foot (was arrested in a nearby restaurant - thankfully a witness saw where he went from the scene).

 

[Bodha]

I don't make the leap to life imprisonment if they are lucky enough to not hit or kill anyone, but a second DUI shows you have a serious problem and the first DUI arrest did not mean a thing to you. A second DUI should definitely result in some jail time and cost you your driver's license. The consequences need to match the crime, IMHO.

I could see serious prison time for any offender, especially a repeat offender, that injures or kills someone.

I do not believe that drinking and driving is taken as seriously as it should be. Never has been. I've lost friends to drinking and driving and been hit head-on by an extremely drunk driver (2-3 times the limit). That driver ultimately was charged with multiple felonies - he had his young son in the car with him, was more than twice the limit, had no proof of insurance, and fled the scene on foot (was arrested in a nearby restaurant - thankfully a witness saw where he went from the scene).

Ive already said I can understand 1 DUI. Thats a mistake. But 2 is indefensible and unforgivable.

DUI is unique for the fact its the 1 crime where "if nothing happens" its apparently no big deal. But the flip side is you could kill a family of 5.

I personally dont set the bar at "Well nothing happened, so whats the problem"? The problem is you couldve killed people. No different than if you shot a gun in the air. If you repeatedly do anything that can kill people (and has a very high probability), then you should be treated as an attempted murderer.

And people who say "nothing happened, whats the big deal" should realize thats the same as saying "But its just attempted murder, he didnt actually succeed in murdering, so whats the big deal?".

 

[Hollywood]

Ive already said I can understand 1 DUI. Thats a mistake. But 2 is indefensible and unforgivable.

DUI is unique for the fact its the 1 crime where "if nothing happens" its apparently no big deal. But the flip side is you could kill a family of 5.

I personally dont set the bar at "Well nothing happened, so whats the problem"? The problem is you couldve killed people. No different than if you shot a gun in the air. If you repeatedly do anything that can kill people (and has a very high probability), then you should be treated as an attempted murderer.

And people who say "nothing happened, whats the big deal" should realize thats the same as saying "But its just attempted murder, he didnt actually succeed in murdering, so whats the big deal?".

This reminds me of Chuck Powell. He saw a guy unload the full clip of a gun into a crowd. Fully intending to kill people but fortunately missed every shot. He couldn't understand why the guy was charged with attempted murder. Or why attempted murder was a lesser charge than murder. Just because you failed you get punished less? The intent was the same.

This dui argument seems similar.

Tuis post was sent from mu smartphine so please excuwe any typos or gramatical errors

 

[Southpaw]

Major NFL advertisers;

Budwesier
Miller Lite
Dos Equis
Crown Royale
et al ad nauseum

and they pay the bulk of the NFL revenue stream, thus player salaries. Conflict??????

 

[Hollywood]

Major NFL advertisers;

Budwesier
Miller Lite
Dos Equis
Crown Royale
et al ad nauseum

and they pay the bulk of the NFL revenue stream, thus player salaries. Conflict??????

Nope. Thechive.com has a full (and pretty awesome) bar in their office. Supposedly employees are free to partake when they want with one rule. Handle your s***. If you can't then you shouldn't partake at all.

 

[DeAnna]

We should not have cut him we should have just benched him. This sucks. He doesn't deserve to be rewarded like this

They should've - AND get him into some kind of help or rehab program. But if he wasn't remorseful, then he is not admitting he has a problem.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Major NFL advertisers;

Budwesier
Miller Lite
Dos Equis
Crown Royale
et al ad nauseum

and they pay the bulk of the NFL revenue stream, thus player salaries. Conflict??????

I don't see it as a conflict...Stadiums start cutting people off after halftime, players are given free Uber accounts and have enough $$ to call a cab, if need be. People are just irresponsible and lazy!

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I don't see it as a conflict...Stadiums start cutting people off after halftime, players are given free Uber accounts and have enough $$ to call a cab, if need be. People are just irresponsible and lazy!

My theory is that Mike didn't want to get the team's taxi, because he didn't want the team to know that he was too drunk to drive...and he was possibly worried about Uber because the driver may have made it public that he was severely intoxicated. Who knows...either way...dumb move. At this point....it is what it is, and hopefully he learns from it going forward.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Ive already said I can understand 1 DUI. Thats a mistake. But 2 is indefensible and unforgivable.

DUI is unique for the fact its the 1 crime where "if nothing happens" its apparently no big deal. But the flip side is you could kill a family of 5.

I personally dont set the bar at "Well nothing happened, so whats the problem"? The problem is you couldve killed people. No different than if you shot a gun in the air. If you repeatedly do anything that can kill people (and has a very high probability), then you should be treated as an attempted murderer.

And people who say "nothing happened, whats the big deal" should realize thats the same as saying "But its just attempted murder, he didnt actually succeed in murdering, so whats the big deal?".

I can definitely follow that logic.

I believe a big reason for repeat offending when it comes to DUI is that the punishment for the first DUI is not tough enough. Offenders basically get a slap on the wrist. Law firms line up to try and help people get out of a DUI or reduce the consequences.

Simply put, it is not looked upon as a serious offense, but it should be taken very seriously.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

My theory is that Mike didn't want to get the team's taxi, because he didn't want the team to know that he was too drunk to drive...and he was possibly worried about Uber because the driver may have made it public that he was severely intoxicated. Who knows...either way...dumb move. At this point....it is what it is, and hopefully he learns from it going forward.

There is no valid excuse. As a millionaire, he could pay a friend to drive him full time. He has resources that the average person does not.

The problem goes back to his college DUI. He didn't even miss a game. His coach publically stated that missing a game would not change anything. No real consequences for his actions, so no incentive to change his ways. Heck, he was busted twice for underage alcohol violations before that. His issues are not new at all. He's needed help for many years, but his talent as an athlete likely made people look the other way.

 

[Hollywood]

I can definitely follow that logic.

I believe a big reason for repeat offending when it comes to DUI is that the punishment for the first DUI is not tough enough. Offenders basically get a slap on the wrist. Law firms line up to try and help people get out of a DUI or reduce the consequences.

Simply put, it is not looked upon as a serious offense, but it should be taken very seriously.

Depends on what you call a slap on the wrist. Clearly that money wouldn't be a deterrent to Floyd but the jail time should....the negative publicity should too.
Minimum of 10 days in jail. Maximum jail sentence: up to 6 months.
Minimum of $250 in fines and up to $2,500 in total fines and fees.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Depends on what you call a slap on the wrist. Clearly that money wouldn't be a deterrent to Floyd but the jail time should....the negative publicity should too.
Minimum of 10 days in jail. Maximum jail sentence: up to 6 months.
Minimum of $250 in fines and up to $2,500 in total fines and fees.

Here is Floyd's punishment for his first DUI:

The 21-year-old Floyd pleaded guilty in June to misdemeanor charges and was sentenced to a year of probation. He was arrested about 3 a.m. March 20 after running a stop sign a block from the school's main entrance. Prosecutors say a breath test showed Floyd had a blood-alcohol level of 0.19 percent, more than double Indiana's legal limit for driving.

In June, St. Joseph County Magistrate Brian Steinke gave Floyd a one-year jail sentence that was suspended as part of a plea agreement. He also said Floyd cannot drive for 90 days and when he does, he must have an ignition device installed on his vehicle for six months that won't allow it to start if his blood-alcohol level is too high.

Floyd was fined $200 and ordered to attend a victim impact panel to hear from people whose family members were killed in drunken driving accidents.

IMHO, there should be no plea agreements for DUI offenses. Should be mandatory sentencing/fines. Especially in cases involving an extreme DUI.

 

[Hollywood]

Here is Floyd's punishment for his first DUI:

The 21-year-old Floyd pleaded guilty in June to misdemeanor charges and was sentenced to a year of probation. He was arrested about 3 a.m. March 20 after running a stop sign a block from the school's main entrance. Prosecutors say a breath test showed Floyd had a blood-alcohol level of 0.19 percent, more than double Indiana's legal limit for driving.

In June, St. Joseph County Magistrate Brian Steinke gave Floyd a one-year jail sentence that was suspended as part of a plea agreement. He also said Floyd cannot drive for 90 days and when he does, he must have an ignition device installed on his vehicle for six months that won't allow it to start if his blood-alcohol level is too high.

Floyd was fined $200 and ordered to attend a victim impact panel to hear from people whose family members were killed in drunken driving accidents.

IMHO, there should be no plea agreements for DUI offenses. Should be mandatory sentencing/fines. Especially in cases involving an extreme DUI.

Yeah but that wasn't in AZ.

 

[MrYeahBut]

This is a list of the top 10 fugitives with DWI in NM. These are just people not in custody. Can't find article but there was a story about a guy that has 12, repeat 12 convicted offenses!


http://krwg.org/post/new-mexico-releases-new-top-10-most-wanted-list-dwi-fugitives

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Yeah but that wasn't in AZ.

No, but it goes to show what he thought of the entire process...the lenient laws probably contributed to his "no big deal" attitude.

 

[Hollywood]

No, but it goes to show what he thought of the entire process...the lenient laws probably contributed to his "no big deal" attitude.

Lets be honest. Nobody ever goes out thinking that they are going to drive drunk. You go out thinking that you are only going to have one or two. And then you get drunk and drunk people are notorious for not thinking clearly.

The problem is thinking you can 'risk it'. If you think you are ok you are definitely not ok.

 

[Matt L]

There is no valid excuse. As a millionaire, he could pay a friend to drive him full time. He has resources that the average person does not.

The problem goes back to his college DUI. He didn't even miss a game. His coach publically stated that missing a game would not change anything. No real consequences for his actions, so no incentive to change his ways. Heck, he was busted twice for underage alcohol violations before that. His issues are not new at all. He's needed help for many years, but his talent as an athlete likely made people look the other way.

Do you and Bohda know what the penalties in AZ are currently for DUI?

 

[ajcardfan]

Do you and Bohda know what the penalties in AZ are currently for DUI?

Arizona has the strictest DUI laws in the nation. Even the first DUI gets you 10 days in jail. If your first arrest is Extreme or Aggravated DUI you could get months or even a year.

http://www.dmv.org/az-arizona/automotive-law/dui.php