For all us Matt Leinart fans...

[Arizona's Finest]

This Cutler trade me soap opera is bad news IMO.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805

The only way for the Broncs to save face is to get a young plus QB who isn't starting yet. Pretty much only Brady Quinn and Matt fit that profile.

Unless McDaniels wants to start over with a Mark Sanchez I think Matt maybe the guy with a Pioli connected Haley giving McDaniels the thumbs up.

I think someone had mentioned a three way with the Jets with the Jets giving up a 1st a 2nd and Washington with Matt and #17 going to Denver and the second and washington coming here. And if Mitch is right about how much the coaching staff has confidence in BSP you could see this happening from the Cardinals perspective.

I hope I am looking into things here at 2AM. I really do. If Matt goes to the Broncos I will bet my house he becomes a star overe there.

At that point I am going to be hoping Mitch is alot smarter then the rest of us.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

For all Matt Leinart fans I understand many of you are Cardinals fans first, but don't you want what's best for him even if that means playing elsewhere and being a starter next year? If "the shoe was on the other foot" that's probably how I'd be feeling.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

This Cutler trade me soap opera is bad news IMO.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805

The only way for the Broncs to save face is to get a young plus QB who isn't starting yet. Pretty much only Brady Quinn and Matt fit that profile.

Unless McDaniels wants to start over with a Mark Sanchez I think Matt maybe the guy with a Pioli connected Haley giving McDaniels the thumbs up.

I think someone had mentioned a three way with the Jets with the Jets giving up a 1st a 2nd and Washington with Matt and #17 going to Denver and the second and washington coming here. And if Mitch is right about how much the coaching staff has confidence in BSP you could see this happening from the Cardinals perspective.

I hope I am looking into things here at 2AM. I really do. If Matt goes to the Broncos I will bet my house he becomes a star overe there.

At that point I am going to be hoping Mitch is alot smarter then the rest of us.

if a crazy trade like that would happen, which i doubt, the Cards would draft a young QB,like Rhett Bomar, to be groomed to take over in 2 years. BSP would serve in a backup role under Warner and the Rhomar. I don't know why any other team would want Cutler's crybaby ass anyway.Bowlen is now on board saying that Cutler handled the situation wrong.But that may also facilitate a trade. Cleveland,Minn or TB seem like more logical landing places to me.

Cutler to TB for their 1st,2nd, and Josh Johsnon.Then maybe use a 4th-5th round pick to get Thigpen or Croyle from KC.

How about a real blockbuster? Cutler to Philly for McNabb and a 4th.

 

[perivolaki]

For all Matt Leinart fans I understand many of you are Cardinals fans first, but don't you want what's best for him even if that means playing elsewhere and being a starter next year? If "the shoe was on the other foot" that's probably how I'd be feeling.

Yeah, but it don't think it's ideal with all the controversy going on. you know how it is, the first time he throws an interception at a crucial time they will fry him. You can already hear it "Jay has a stronger arm, he coulda made that throw." Fans here are saying he doesn't have a strong arm and we are comparing him to Warner. Neither Kurt or Matty have even close to the gun Cutler has. You know there will be comparisons.

 

[Linderbee]

For all Matt Leinart fans I understand many of you are Cardinals fans first, but don't you want what's best for him even if that means playing elsewhere and being a starter next year? If "the shoe was on the other foot" that's probably how I'd be feeling.

Well, the Cardinals fan thing kinda trumps the "what's best for Matt" thing. Yeah, I understand if he goes, but my opinion is that what is best for the team is that he stays. I think he'll do great here, when he has his chance. I guess that's best for both him & us.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

For all Matt Leinart fans I understand many of you are Cardinals fans first, but don't you want what's best for him even if that means playing elsewhere and being a starter next year? If "the shoe was on the other foot" that's probably how I'd be feeling.

I am a Cardinal fan first, and Matt ain't going anywhere.

 

[az jam]

I am a Cardinal fan first, and Matt ain't going anywhere.

Agree, Cards are set this year at qb with Warner, Leinart and BSP. They don't need to do anything.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

For all Matt Leinart fans I understand many of you are Cardinals fans first, but don't you want what's best for him even if that means playing elsewhere and being a starter next year? If "the shoe was on the other foot" that's probably how I'd be feeling.

I am without a doubt a Cardinals fan first. That doesn't mean I don't lament a guy like Adrian Peterson getting by us in the draft.

I know you don't agree but I think he is going to be a star in this league and we haven't had a young stud QB in like.....ever.

If you think that makes me less of a fan because I want him winning those games in Cardinal red then you can think what you want.

What you don't get is I don't like Matt because I think he is a "great guy" or because he does alot of charity work. I like him because no matter what jersey he wears I think he is going to be a good player. As I told you from the beginning and as many others have. I am unwilling to put ALL our eggs in the 2009 basket at the expense of the next 10 years of what I think is going to be a great QB.

And I would hate to give up on that. That would be something the SOC do. I am guessing we are past that point now.

I won't be following Matt's career if he does get traded with anything more then slight interest. I just think he's going to be good, that's all. So in my mind I AM hoping for whats best for the team. Not the 2009 team. The franchise in general.

 

[BW52]

Cards would be dumb to trade Leinart.What makes anybody think that Warner can make it thru 2 complete seasons in a row healthy (only IamaWarnerfan probably).Brian (pipedream nonsense) St.Pierre as a backup makes me puke.Keep Leinart and let him develop.Think ahead .

 

[ReddBird]

Why would any team with a solid starting QB and his likely successor want to trade their QBOF for some other team's QBCB (QB Cry Baby)?

 

[Evil Ash]

1) This is the NFL not the NBA. Three team deals don't happen due to the cap ramifications

2) The way Warner's deal is structured, it appears the team is ready to give Leinart the reigns after next season.

3) If we deal anyone this offseason, it will be Boldin

 

[azsouthendzone]

Why does everyone keep saying how much confidence the org has in BSP? They signed him to a one year, one million dollar deal right? That is hardly a vote of confidence.

 

[jf-08]

Why does everyone keep saying how uch confidence the org has in BSP? They signed him to a one year, one million dollar deal right? That is hardly a vote of confidence.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Pariah]

I'd love to see Cutler in NY. It would be the biggest implosion of a QB since Ryan Leaf. Cutler cannot handle the spotlight in Denver; imagine how he'd behave on the world's largest stage.

 

[Mulli]

Why does everyone keep saying how uch confidence the org has in BSP? They signed him to a one year, one million dollar deal right? That is hardly a vote of confidence.

I was thinking the same thing.

Never underestimate the power of message board imagination.

 

[dogpoo32]

Why does everyone keep saying how uch confidence the org has in BSP? They signed him to a one year, one million dollar deal right? That is hardly a vote of confidence.

YES!

 

[CardLogic]

...we haven't had a young stud QB in like.....ever.

Nuh, just 20 years; Neil Lomax.

 

[john h]

For all Matt Leinart fans I understand many of you are Cardinals fans first, but don't you want what's best for him even if that means playing elsewhere and being a starter next year? If "the shoe was on the other foot" that's probably how I'd be feeling.

First and always I am a Cards fan. I wish no one bad luck who leaves here and hope they all do well and that includes Matt. He wants to be a starter and who can blame him. I trade Matt if it makes sense for the Cards but only if it makes sense for the Cards. I hope he stays but only the coaches have any idea of just how good he can become. My guess is that if he stays he will see some playing time. Kurt stood tall all year and missed very little time but at 38 that will be hard to repeat. I think Matts best chances are with the Cards unless the coaches know something most of us do not.

 

[moklerman]

Why does everyone keep saying how much confidence the org has in BSP? They signed him to a one year, one million dollar deal right? That is hardly a vote of confidence.

$1M is a pretty decent commitment to a 3rd string QB. I don't know if he could be more than a 3rd stringer but that is definitely his role here until further notice. Some teams don't even carry a third QB. If anything, $1M to BSP is a vote of confidence from the Cardinals.

What you don't get is I don't like Matt because I think he is a "great guy" or because he does alot of charity work. I like him because no matter what jersey he wears I think he is going to be a good player. As I told you from the beginning and as many others have. I am unwilling to put ALL our eggs in the 2009 basket at the expense of the next 10 years of what I think is going to be a great QB.

Isn't this the same rationale that's been offered for the last two years? If Rackers was more clutch in 2007, we'd be talking about back to back playoff runs by the Cardinals so it's not like the team is going for broke in 2009. They are trying to build upon 2 years of success.

Cards would be dumb to trade Leinart.What makes anybody think that Warner can make it thru 2 complete seasons in a row healthy

He's played in 34 straight games at this point. Leinart played in 12 and got hurt then in 5 and got hurt. Leinart as the QB for the next 10 years is VERY premature. Even if the job was his tomorrow, a 10 year run as a great QB for the Cardinals is nothing more than the Kool-Aid talking. Is it possible? Sure. I wouldn't put all of my eggs in that basket though.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

I am without a doubt a Cardinals fan first. That doesn't mean I don't lament a guy like Adrian Peterson getting by us in the draft.

I know you don't agree but I think he is going to be a star in this league and we haven't had a young stud QB in like.....ever.

If you think that makes me less of a fan because I want him winning those games in Cardinal red then you can think what you want.

What you don't get is I don't like Matt because I think he is a "great guy" or because he does alot of charity work. I like him because no matter what jersey he wears I think he is going to be a good player. As I told you from the beginning and as many others have. I am unwilling to put ALL our eggs in the 2009 basket at the expense of the next 10 years of what I think is going to be a great QB.

And I would hate to give up on that. That would be something the SOC do. I am guessing we are past that point now.

I won't be following Matt's career if he does get traded with anything more then slight interest. I just think he's going to be good, that's all. So in my mind I AM hoping for whats best for the team. Not the 2009 team. The franchise in general.

Agreed, and I too think he will be a great starting QB some day. I'm just concerned how much longer that will take. Honestly, I feel he could start for a team next year, but at the same team it may take him a while to be as good as Kurt Warner. So in a nutshell, I seriously doubt he'll be another Ryan Leaf and will be great some day.

Cards would be dumb to trade Leinart.What makes anybody think that Warner can make it thru 2 complete seasons in a row healthy (only IamaWarnerfan probably).Brian (pipedream nonsense) St.Pierre as a backup makes me puke.Keep Leinart and let him develop.Think ahead .

It's Iowa Arizona Warner fan, but I forgot the AZ part of it.

Who's to say he can't? He very well could do fine this year and maybe next year too. Maybe not as good as last year, but should be good enough to guide this team to another Super bowl or two and possibly wins.

First and always I am a Cards fan. I wish no one bad luck who leaves here and hope they all do well and that includes Matt. He wants to be a starter and who can blame him. I trade Matt if it makes sense for the Cards but only if it makes sense for the Cards. I hope he stays but only the coaches have any idea of just how good he can become. My guess is that if he stays he will see some playing time. Kurt stood tall all year and missed very little time but at 38 that will be hard to repeat. I think Matts best chances are with the Cards unless the coaches know something most of us do not.

Agreed and that's all I was saying. It was pretty hard to do at 37 as well. Just remember Matt's escalating base salary heading into next year. When he was drafted he was suppose to be a starter by now, as he very well could be elsewhere.

 

[azsouthendzone]

$1M is a pretty decent commitment to a 3rd string QB. I don't know if he could be more than a 3rd stringer but that is definitely his role here until further notice. Some teams don't even carry a third QB. If anything, $1M to BSP is a vote of confidence from the Cardinals.

He could be cut in TC and get paid ZERO. His contract isn't worth the paper its is written on. Furthermore it is a one year deal. If they had big plans for the guy they would have locked him up. I'm not buying it at all.

 

[IAWarnerFan]

He could be cut in TC and get paid ZERO. His contract isn't worth the paper its is written on. Furthermore it is a one year deal. If they had big plans for the guy they would have locked him up. I'm not buying it at all.

Agreed and I'm not either.

 

[moklerman]

He could be cut in TC and get paid ZERO. His contract isn't worth the paper its is written on. Furthermore it is a one year deal. If they had big plans for the guy they would have locked him up. I'm not buying it at all.

I didn't say they had big plans for him, but $1M for a third stringer, if it's fulfilled, is substantial.

 

[Perfectionist]

Maybe we will see how much faith Whis has in Matt. I would really like to know.

 

[moklerman]

Leinart is going to be fine. Whis has played this perfectly. He gave Leinart every opportunity to prove that he was ready to win games and when he wasn't, did the right thing and played the best player regardless of contract. Now, Leinart will get a heavy dose of preseason with no competition getting in the way and he will see the field more often in relief roles in '09. He will ease into the position and not have the added pressure of being a savior.

He'll probably have to re-structure his deal for '10 regardless of the situation but he should benefit from having to work hard and fight for the starting job. My only worry with Leinart is his durability.