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Popeye Jones was waived by the Warriors. I'd like him for a few reasons:

1) Just look at him.
2) I mean...seriously. Just look at him.
3) He's supposed to be a tremendous locker room guy.
4) Gives you a lot of hustle and enthusiasm, even if it's just through towel waiving on the bench.
5) Probably a great guy to have in practice.
 

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yea just look at him. i wonder if he gets a running start if those ears can get him flying?

yea he is great in the lockerroom, just looking at him makes all the other players thankful that they werent born as dumbo :D
 

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I will admit I have not watched much of Popeye Jones in recent years. When he originally came into the league he was a physical, high energy player and also fairly athletic. He was the type of role player most teams would want to have and a good rebounder.

I don't know what's happened in his career for him to be waived. If he can still play he would make a great backup at the PF position. He could always go on the IL if he could be acquired for the minimum.
 

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I agree with the Just look at him deal. Honestly, we need him on our team so I can feel better about myself everytime they play
 
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I will admit I have not watched much of Popeye Jones in recent years. When he originally came into the league he was a physical, high energy player and also fairly athletic. He was the type of role player most teams would want to have and a good rebounder.

I don't know what's happened in his career for him to be waived. If he can still play he would make a great backup at the PF position. He could always go on the IL if he could be acquired for the minimum.

The Warriors just have too many forwards with much less "waiveable" contracts.
 

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What is his health status? In 2001-02 he played in 79 games with the Wizzards, in 2002-03 he played in 26 games with the Mavs, and in 2003-04 he played in only 5 games for the Warriors.
 

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That's a great photo BleedingPurple. Now tell me, what player going into the lane wouldn't be unnerved to see Popeye waiting for him.

I guess he's had some injury problems last year, torn cartilage in his left knee. Popeye would have to be healthy to have an impact. He really was kind of a physical Bo Outlaw when he first came into the league and a decent role player at the PF. I think alot of teams made a mistake in not drafting him.

How about Karl Malone for the minimum? Suns fans try to disregard any negative feelings for him. If he could be had for the minimum, he might have a tremendous impact on the Suns team. He still knows how to play the game and definitely would give the Suns another physical presence. Maybe Karl could even be coaxed into playing a little center. :)
 

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How about Karl Malone for the minimum? Suns fans try to disregard any negative feelings for him. If he could be had for the minimum, he might have a tremendous impact on the Suns team. He still knows how to play the game and definitely would give the Suns another physical presence. Maybe Karl could even be coaxed into playing a little center. :)

Assuming Karl gets healthy, I would expect him to follow Shaq to Miami where he could start and have a CHANCE of getting to the conference finals. Even if he wasn't one of the most hated men among Suns fans, I can't see why he would bother with Phoenix for the same money.
 

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Popeye Jones looks like the stunt double for that old black and white movie "Nosferatu"
 

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If Popeye Jones is healthy and can be had for the minimum, he'd be a great addition to the Suns' roster. In his last full season ('01-02 with the Wiz - 79 games), he averaged 7.3 rpg (2.9 offensive) in only 24.3 mpg. He's a very solid rebounder and defender. Dude once pulled down 28 boards in a game, and he's had 12 offensive rebounds in a game three times... :)

He *is* one of the ugliest mofos in sports, but oh well...

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Assuming Karl gets healthy, I would expect him to follow Shaq to Miami where he could start and have a CHANCE of getting to the conference finals. Even if he wasn't one of the most hated men among Suns fans, I can't see why he would bother with Phoenix for the same money.

Perhaps I'm overly optimistic, but I think if Karl joined the Suns team he would have as good a chance of reaching the conference finals in Phoenix. :thumbup:
 

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Mainstreet said:
Perhaps I'm overly optimistic, but I think if Karl joined the Suns team he would have as good a chance of reaching the conference finals in Phoenix. :thumbup:

:biglaugh: You can't be serious, conference finals, it would be nice but I wouldn't make that bet. Slam some more pints down :cheers: maybe the Suns will win the title!
 

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DaFlogger said:
:biglaugh: You can't be serious, conference finals, it would be nice but I wouldn't make that bet. Slam some more pints down :cheers: maybe the Suns will win the title!
Hey, gotta stay positive, right?
 

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:biglaugh: You can't be serious, conference finals, it would be nice but I wouldn't make that bet. Slam some more pints down :cheers: maybe the Suns will win the title!

Shut up DaFlogger
 

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Originally posted by DaFlogger

You can't be serious, conference finals, it would be nice but I wouldn't make that bet. Slam some more pints down maybe the Suns will win the title!

Sorry but I don't drink, however, I would like to see the Suns win the title. I believe parity has reached the NBA and that the Suns should aspire to win the tiltle. I don't believe there are any teams that are a lock for the NBA Championship. I think the Olympics has given the fans a glimpse of the mediocrity in the NBA.

I think if the Suns can get solid play out of their center/PF positions they are right there with any team in the NBA. I'm sorry but Miami and Detroit among others do not run chills down my spine. The game is played on the court not hype. The Suns are not that far away. A solid acqusition at center/PF and the Suns are right there now.
 
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I couldn't agree more about the solid acqusition. I just don't see Malone being that person. He's old and like last season, a health risk.

Hey Mainstreet, I was just goofing with you. Sorry if I made an offense. I really hope the Suns do make the conference finals!
 

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Conference finals? My guess is that it would take a kind of reverse Murphy's Law - everything that can go right does go right. :thumbup:

Let me give an example:

Stoudemire reaches elite status as a PF on both the offensive and defensive end. I find it improbable that this will happen this year, but it is not out of the question.

Johnson plays consistently at a high level. He's shown signs that he is capable of being a solid, even star player but not consistently enough.

Marion returns to the level of play that got him to the All Star team and loses his aversion to contact. This is not unreasonable, but hardly a sure thing.

Richardson becomes a more consistent shooter, defender, and passer than he was with the Clippers. He has a lot of talent but played too much like Clipper to be outstanding. With luck he could emerge as an elite player, but it is not a sure thing.

Nash becomes an adequate defender. Supposedly Nash at least tried to play defense on the Mavs but the results weren't there. He will have to step it up if the Suns are going to get out of the first round.

Barbosa becomes a real point guard and reduces his tendency to foul too much. Barbosa showed some signs of making progress as a PG, but he is still very new to the position. Come playoffs, he will have to be solid as a point guard and control his fouls so he can stay in the game.

Lampe becomes an adequate rebounder and defender. Lampe has the potential and showed a little progreass this summer, but he will have to make a lot of progress if the Suns are going to be a serious contender. He will also need to be more of a passer and less focused on shooting every time he gets the ball.

Hunter becomes a consistent NBA center. He's had his moments but they were relative few. If he can block shots, rebound and play defense, it might be enough to make the Suns a contender. If he can't, the Suns will struggle.

Jacobsen becomes a consistent scorer to go with high percentage shooting. Casey averaged only 6.0 ppg in 23.4 minutes, which is inadequate. He won't get those kind of minutes this season, but his outside shooting could be very helpful if he can score consistently.

Voskhul learns to play smarter at center. Jake makes too many dumb fouls and gets caught out of position too often. If he played smarter he would be one of the better backup centers in the NBA.

Vroman lives up to expectations in playing defense and rebounding. Vroman lasted to the second round for a reason, but he has the energy to play the role Bo Outlaw used to play.


Even if everything went right, it will be no easy task. The Spurs and Timerwolves have strong, deep, veteran teams and in the playoffs experience really does matter. But if everything went right, the Suns would right up there - but I'm not holding my breath.
 

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George O'Brien said:
Conference finals? My guess is that it would take a kind of reverse Murphy's Law - everything that can go right does go right. :thumbup:

Let me give an example:

Stoudemire reaches elite status as a PF on both the offensive and defensive end. I find it improbable that this will happen this year, but it is not out of the question.

Johnson plays consistently at a high level. He's shown signs that he is capable of being a solid, even star player but not consistently enough.

Marion returns to the level of play that got him to the All Star team and loses his aversion to contact. This is not unreasonable, but hardly a sure thing.

Richardson becomes a more consistent shooter, defender, and passer than he was with the Clippers. He has a lot of talent but played too much like Clipper to be outstanding. With luck he could emerge as an elite player, but it is not a sure thing.

Nash becomes an adequate defender. Supposedly Nash at least tried to play defense on the Mavs but the results weren't there. He will have to step it up if the Suns are going to get out of the first round.

Barbosa becomes a real point guard and reduces his tendency to foul too much. Barbosa showed some signs of making progress as a PG, but he is still very new to the position. Come playoffs, he will have to be solid as a point guard and control his fouls so he can stay in the game.

Lampe becomes an adequate rebounder and defender. Lampe has the potential and showed a little progreass this summer, but he will have to make a lot of progress if the Suns are going to be a serious contender. He will also need to be more of a passer and less focused on shooting every time he gets the ball.

Hunter becomes a consistent NBA center. He's had his moments but they were relative few. If he can block shots, rebound and play defense, it might be enough to make the Suns a contender. If he can't, the Suns will struggle.

Jacobsen becomes a consistent scorer to go with high percentage shooting. Casey averaged only 6.0 ppg in 23.4 minutes, which is inadequate. He won't get those kind of minutes this season, but his outside shooting could be very helpful if he can score consistently.

Voskhul learns to play smarter at center. Jake makes too many dumb fouls and gets caught out of position too often. If he played smarter he would be one of the better backup centers in the NBA.

Vroman lives up to expectations in playing defense and rebounding. Vroman lasted to the second round for a reason, but he has the energy to play the role Bo Outlaw used to play.


Even if everything went right, it will be no easy task. The Spurs and Timerwolves have strong, deep, veteran teams and in the playoffs experience really does matter. But if everything went right, the Suns would right up there - but I'm not holding my breath.

This is rediculous.

If Amare and JJ improve and Shawn has a year more like 2 years ago the Suns will make the playoffs. They added 2 really good pieces and lost nothing from last year.

Making the finals would take a little luck. The Knicks went as a 7th seed. It's defenitely a long shot but not impossible.

The Suns would need to win a big series or 2 and hope that some of the other top teams lose to lower seeds or knock each other out.
 

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I don't remember how many members here noticed my posts of past (I was averaging .01 posts and up to .53 now :thumbup: - about the same at the other sites previous to this) anywho... but this year is my new favorite Suns team (I've said this every year for years).

The starters are talents but even the bench, if you look at potential:

Barbosa, Vujanic*, Eisley, Jacobsen, Richardson, Cabarkapa, Vroman, Lampe, Voskuhl, and possibly Williams - all have the potential to start games eventually (injury) although Vroman might need some time. They can spell starters for minutes and key injury at 1-3 Suns are loaded... at 5, Lampe, Voskuhl, and Williams can start. At the 4 would be biggest concern, Voskuhl or Williams could start at C- pushing Hunter to PF; Lampe or Cabarkapa could start at PF (offensive players).

The starters are solid. Four potential All-stars in starting line-up, with a possible 6th Man award winner on bench. I'd start Hunter - with shot-blocking to start game. With Voskuhl, Williams, Lampe, and Cabarkapa not being great defenders - Vroman might have a role on team (defensively off bench). Barbosa will be another player defensively off bench (that can shoot, while Vroman can pass). Anyways, I can't write like the rest of you :wave: but I'm hoping for a good seed this year...
 

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devilalum said:
This is rediculous.

If Amare and JJ improve and Shawn has a year more like 2 years ago the Suns will make the playoffs. They added 2 really good pieces and lost nothing from last year.

Making the finals would take a little luck. The Knicks went as a 7th seed. It's defenitely a long shot but not impossible.

The Suns would need to win a big series or 2 and hope that some of the other top teams lose to lower seeds or knock each other out.

The issue was making the finals. To do that, the Suns need major improvements by Hunter and Lampe, strong improvement by Stoudemire on defense, and more consistency by the rest. The Suns have the overall talent to be quite good, but I have a hard time seeing them contend for the finals this season.
 

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George, I agree it would be difficult but not impossible for the Suns make it to the conference finals with the increasing parity in the NBA.

What troubled me a bit was your statement about why Karl Malone might go to Miami. You stated:


Originally posted by George O'Brien

Assuming Karl gets healthy, I would expect him to follow Shaq to Miami where he could start and have a CHANCE of getting to the conference finals. Even if he wasn't one of the most hated men among Suns fans, I can't see why he would bother with Phoenix for the same money.

I guess I just took offense that Miami is that much better than us. I know the East is weaker... but if Miami can make it to the conference finals with the addition of Karl Malone, so can we. However, it's true it would be easier for Karl to start for Miami. I am not a Karl Malone fan but I threw it out there as an option.

Go Suns. :thumbup:

I'm not conceding anything to any one this year.
 

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If the suns have a chance of making the conference finals, then so do the Nuggets and Rockets.....


Honestly, the team is on the upswing, but like George said, EVERYTHING has to go right to make it there. There may be a lot of parity in the west, but there are still 2 teams that should battle it out for the west representative this season.

Spurs and Wolves should be the 1 and 2 seeds. At this point, I don't see how a fan of any other team can honestly predict they will be able to upset either of those teams to make the conference finals.


If the Suns have a good season, and put up a nice fight in the first round I will be thrilled. If the Suns make it to the second round of the playoffs, BC should get Exec of the year.
 

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Mainstreet said:
I guess I just took offense that Miami is that much better than us. I know the East is weaker... but if Miami can make it to the conference finals with the addition of Karl Malone, so can we. However, it's true it would be easier for Karl to start for Miami. I am not a Karl Malone fan but I threw it out there as an option.

Go Suns. :thumbup:

I'm not conceding anything to any one this year.


Miami is better than us. Wade will be a stud, and Shaq has already lost near 25 pounds. They won't have the depth we have, but if they stay healthy and Shaq stays motivated, they would beat us in a 7 game series.

Karl Malone wouldn't even help the suns that much if he were healthy. There just isn't room for him.
 

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