For the 'O-Line over QB' Crowd

[Mulli]

Well duh.

How about this. Practice perfects imperfections.

Yep, you are doing it wrong so stop practicing. Thanks, Iverson.

 

[desertdawg]

I believe desire makes practice worth while and perfection a goal.

 

[TruCard]

I agree that QB is priority for this team. The only problem is, there isn't a franchise QB with the exception of Geno Smith. That is why we will go o-line. Then draft Manziel when we tank again. lol

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I agree that QB is priority for this team. The only problem is, there isn't a franchise QB with the exception of Geno Smith. That is why we will go o-line. Then draft Manziel when we tank again. lol

Tajh Boyd if he declares?

 

[DoTheDew]

Also a different era of football. You cant win in this league without a throwing attack and to win a SB you need a high powered throwing attack. Defense doesnt win championships anymore.

Agreed you can't win the SB but you can get to the playoffs like that, Ravens were doing it all decade before getting Flacco and he's not really a franchise QB IMO, 49ers did it last year with Alex Smith not passing much. I'd much rather be in the playoff hunt every year with a great D and running game and wait until 1 day we find our guy than reach for a QB in a bad QB draft because we need one so badly, and end up needing one again in 2 seasons while kicking ourselves for not taking one of the various pro bowl OL or OLBs we past on.

We don't want to be like the Jags, taking a Blaine Gabbert in front of a JJ Watt.

 

[52brandon]

Brandon - Every offseason we talk ourselves into believing our "O-line is gonna be OK." And just about every season, it turns out that it isn't.

What is it they say about doing the same thing over and expecting a different result?

I think you misunderstood my statement. I wasn't saying the line is good. I was saying that I like seeing these guys getting to know each other better both on and off the field. And that I think it will have positive results. Our starting LT has only played I think 5 or 6 NFL games. Our starting RT has only played this one season. Snyder was only here for one season, Colledge and Sendlein were the only 2 that had played together before. And even then, thanks to injuries, we had like 10 different lineups. I think spending as much time as possible together will yield positive results. Will it make them good? I dunno. But I do believe it will make them better

my optimistic, kool-aid, outlook though is that Massie turned out to be as good as where we drafted him (which is better than any RT we've had in a few years) and Potter was probably our biggest value in the draft. They both looked pretty damn good towards the end of the year. It may be a fluke, it may not. (Somehow, and I can't explain why) Snyder looked good at C subbing. I like the idea of going after a top-ranked guard in the 1st or 2nd if he's there on the draft board. And an OT a few rounds down for depth. Levi is going to be collecting a decent check, and I don't know that he's good enough to start over these kids, and I don't know if they should pay him so much on the bench. Then it will be Bradley and Brown collecting roughly $10M/year on the bench. And if we take a guard that takes over for Snyder or Colledge quickly, that number moves significantly higher. If the kids weren't a fluke last year, and will continue to improve as expected, our line may not be too far off. I think with a top G and another G or T that have potential, we will have a solid line

 

[AzStevenCal]

Agreed you can't win the SB but you can get to the playoffs like that, Ravens were doing it all decade before getting Flacco and he's not really a franchise QB IMO, 49ers did it last year with Alex Smith not passing much. I'd much rather be in the playoff hunt every year with a great D and running game and wait until 1 day we find our guy than reach for a QB in a bad QB draft because we need one so badly, and end up needing one again in 2 seasons while kicking ourselves for not taking one of the various pro bowl OL or OLBs we past on.

We don't want to be like the Jags, taking a Blaine Gabbert in front of a JJ Watt.

Surely there is middle ground between famine and a light snack? I don't think anyone is advocating to "reach for a QB". And I'm not even sure you can really plan to be just good enough to be in the playoff hunt, it's a fairly dynamic target.

As for the point of this thread, I'm not in favor of drafting a QB or an offensive lineman. I'm for the obvious; draft the guy that will help us the most. If there is a solid QB that is reasonable value where we pick (someone that projects to within half a round or so of where we draft), grab him, as no one single player could improve us more than a decent QB. Otherwise, draft for value regardless of position.

Steve

 

[JeffGollin]

Surely there is middle ground between famine and a light snack? I don't think anyone is advocating to "reach for a QB". And I'm not even sure you can really plan to be just good enough to be in the playoff hunt, it's a fairly dynamic target.

As for the point of this thread, I'm not in favor of drafting a QB or an offensive lineman. I'm for the obvious; draft the guy that will help us the most. If there is a solid QB that is reasonable value where we pick (someone that projects to within half a round or so of where we draft), grab him, as no one single player could improve us more than a decent QB. Otherwise, draft for value regardless of position.

Steve

Just a guess, but a logical way to start would be to hire staff that knows how to evaluate QB's (for a change) and charge them with coming up with the best strategy for making us sound at QB. Let them determine whether - from within the context of our own QB's, free agent talent, potential trades or the draft - we should trade for a QB, sign a FA, draft high, draft, medium, draft low or stand pat (or throw a lot of mud against the wall).

Finally, more important than the process will be our ability to accurately judge talent.

 

[D-Dogg]

Yep, you are doing it wrong so stop practicing. Thanks, Iverson.

Not a game...not a game, Mulli.

 

[Dr. Jones]

From the best draft guru of the last few years:

Rick Gosselin ‏@RickGosselinDMN
Hope Jerry Jones is watching BCS tonite. It all starts up front for Bama with that offensive line.

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