Forget the draft...it’s free agency time!

[slanidrac16]

I would love to see all your REALISTIC ideas of who the non Cardinal F/A the Cards will sign before the rumors start to leak out.

One rumor already has us considering. Derek Wolfe. Of course none of us really know. But taking in consideration of our needs it’s your chance to play GM. Who are you pursuing. Here’s mine.

1. Dante Fowler. Perfect bookend for Jones with the added plus of stripping the Rams roster.

2. ILB Nick Kwiatkowski. He will cost a little bit more than you’d think but he’s young and he is tenacious. If the Bears lock him up my back up plan would be Danny Trevathan. He’s been getting banged up but he is only 29 and could plug the ILB position for more than a year.

3. OC Connor McGovern. Since the talk about Shipley has cooled down we could seriously upgrade here.

4. DT Jordan Phillips. Stole this one from another “GM” Ghandi. He is young and could eventually replace Peters.

5. DE Benson Mayowa. This is one that should have never gotten away.

My plan adds experience on defense. Explosiveness from the edge. Improvement at ILB ( even if it’s Trevathan) and an upgrade in the middle of our O-line.

I’m going to have to lean on my capologist to get this done. And if I can sign Fowler I might have to leave one of those guys off my list.

Okay gang. What’s your plan. You can base your idea of who you think might be available in the draft. But we’re talking free agency here.

 

[kerouac9]

I think Jordan Gotsis (DEN DL) is an option. Played a lot of snaps under Joseph and is at a discount after being a part-time player last year.

I'm also intrigued by Neville Hewitt (NYJ ILB). He's a little undersized at 234 lbs, but he could be a solid coverage guy (5 passes defensed and 3 sacks last year).

Totally agree on Connor McGovern.

 

[football karma]

so:

three big positions of need I think need to be addressed in FA:

choose one from each category, but can only end up with a Big $, Med $ and Small $ at the end.

values are those from OvertheCap. It felt like a nice objective $ figure to reference. Who knows if its accurate or indicative of the market.

ILB:

Big $: Joe Schobert, CLE Age: 27, $8.6mm

Med $: Nick Kwiatkoski, 27 $5.3mm

Small $: Neville Hewitt, 26 Jets, 26 $2.9mm



Edge:

Big $: Marcus Golden, 28 $11.6mm

Med $: Bruce Irvin, 32, $4.9mm

Small $: Jeremiah Attaochu, 27 $1.7mm



DL:

Big $: Javon Hargrave, 27, $10mm

Med $: Nick Williams, 30, $4.8mm

Small: Jarran Reed, 27, $2.3mm

 

[AZman5103]

We need at least one impact player on the D-Line, and one at the LB level. These players need to start and offer a significant upgrade over whats on the roster.

Leonard Williams and Bud Dupree?

Jordan Phillips and Corey Littleton?

 

[DVontel]

We need at least one impact player on the D-Line, and one at the LB level. These players need to start and offer a significant upgrade over whats on the roster.

Leonard Williams and Bud Dupree?

Jordan Phillips and Corey Littleton?

lmao

 

[Ronin]

Man I want Fowler so bad that I haven’t thought of other free agents. Lol

 

[AZman5103]

lmao

Leonard Williams isn't an upgrade over the guys we started last year?

 

[DVontel]

Leonard Williams isn't an upgrade over the guys we started last year?

Not for the pay he’s going to get, no.

 

[Ohcrap75]

I would like to get DT Hargrave, ILB Hewitt, Edge Golden/Lawson.

Playmaker on DL, capable starter ILB, solid edge that won’t break the bank. Although I could see us going bigger because edge draft class is very weak. This would allow us to focus on the deeper OL, WR, CB and RB classes through the draft.

 

[AZman5103]

Not for the pay he’s going to get, no.

Maybe a lot of people will agree and he will be cheaper than expected? He's still young and is an upgrade for us, so Id at least kick the tires.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

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[Krangodnzr]

Jordan Jenkins, OLB Jets.

Has improved every year, but hasn't had that breakout year. Should get a solid, but not outrageous contract.

 

[Krangodnzr]

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He might cost more than Hicks did last year.

Hicks actually has an extremely team friendly contract cost wise. $8 million per vs. Wagner's $19 million per. I just dont see that wide of a chasm in effectiveness to justify that much more coin.

 

[AZman5103]

Ok so going as realistic as possible. I think we can sign 2 bigger names, and 3 smaller names. We have about 40 million in cap space before any restructures or anything. Here would be my preference.

Big Names (~25 million)

1. Cory Littleton - We improve our ILB position while also weakening the Rams. He is the best FA at the position, and the chances of Simmons falling to #8 are slim. (~10 million???)

2. Bud Dupree or Mathew Judon - We solidify our edge spot and make our defense quite a bit better because of it. Edge in the draft is not great (~15 million???)

Smaller Names (~15 million)

Jordan Phillips - need D-Line help badly (~6 million???)

Andrew Billings - Mans the nose and lets Peters rotate to end when needed (~3 million??)

Conner McGovern - Upgrade at center and potential multi-year starter (~3 million??)

Eric Ebron - He provides the TE/Big WR that we could use. When healthy, he is productive. I think Williams, Ebron, and Arnold would be a solid TE group. (~3 million???)

This would let us go BPA in the draft, but still be ok if the draft doesn't fall our way.

Rd. 1- Derrick Brown
Rd. 2 - Niang
Rd. 3 - Pittman Jr
Rd 4 - Zach Moss or Eno Benjamin

 

[kerouac9]

He might cost more than Hicks did last year.

Hicks actually has an extremely team friendly contract cost wise. $8 million per vs. Wagner's $19 million per. I just dont see that wide of a chasm in effectiveness to justify that much more coin.

If you can't see the difference between a five-time All Pro and Jordan Hicks, I don't know what to tell you. This is a pretty significant troll.

Jordan Hicks was the third-, fourth-, or fifth-best defender on his team (depending on where you place him among Chandler Jones, Budda Baker, and Patrick Peterson).

Bobby Wagner was the best player on his defense and a legit DPOY candidate.

I think you can legitimately say they both played for below-average defenses, but this is silly.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Buyer beware on Fowler. Jax buddy said he’s a complete head case.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Also 11.6 mm for Golden sounds awful steep to me.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Also 11.6 mm for Golden sounds awful steep to me.

Way too much

 

[Krangodnzr]

If you can't see the difference between a five-time All Pro and Jordan Hicks, I don't know what to tell you. This is a pretty significant troll.

Jordan Hicks was the third-, fourth-, or fifth-best defender on his team (depending on where you place him among Chandler Jones, Budda Baker, and Patrick Peterson).

Bobby Wagner was the best player on his defense and a legit DPOY candidate.

I think you can legitimately say they both played for below-average defenses, but this is silly.

My point is:

Would I rather have Hicks AND an $11 million per year player....or Bobby Wagner.

Wagner is a very good MLB, but not worth $11 million more per season.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Ok so going as realistic as possible. I think we can sign 2 bigger names, and 3 smaller names. We have about 40 million in cap space before any restructures or anything. Here would be my preference.

Big Names (~25 million)

1. Cory Littleton - We improve our ILB position while also weakening the Rams. He is the best FA at the position, and the chances of Simmons falling to #8 are slim. (~10 million???)

2. Bud Dupree or Mathew Judon - We solidify our edge spot and make our defense quite a bit better because of it. Edge in the draft is not great (~15 million???)

Smaller Names (~15 million)

Jordan Phillips - need D-Line help badly (~6 million???)

Andrew Billings - Mans the nose and lets Peters rotate to end when needed (~3 million??)

Conner McGovern - Upgrade at center and potential multi-year starter (~3 million??)

Eric Ebron - He provides the TE/Big WR that we could use. When healthy, he is productive. I think Williams, Ebron, and Arnold would be a solid TE group. (~3 million???)

This would let us go BPA in the draft, but still be ok if the draft doesn't fall our way.

Rd. 1- Derrick Brown
Rd. 2 - Niang
Rd. 3 - Pittman Jr
Rd 4 - Zach Moss or Eno Benjamin

We don't have $40m
Subtract $9m for draft class and a $3 to $5m contingency fund.

 

[Solar7]

2. Bud Dupree or Mathew Judon - We solidify our edge spot and make our defense quite a bit better because of it. Edge in the draft is not great (~15 million???)

Both of these guys are getting the franchise tag, and won't be available.

 

[Southpaw]

The dates for the NFL Draft and FA signing period need to be flip flopped

 

[Phrazbit]

If the Jags waive Calais any chance he comes back here?

 

[slanidrac16]

Buyer beware on Fowler. Jax buddy said he’s a complete head case.

Then maybe Judon but I heard the Ravens were going to tag and then trade him.
Golden would cost less too.

 

[slanidrac16]

Both of these guys are getting the franchise tag, and won't be available.

Rumors have it they are tagging Judon but trading him.