Free Agency

[Card'em]

I don't understand the complaining. Would you rather see Nick Vigil or Tanner Vallejo at linebacker?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Colts getting that trade up ammo.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Would you rather see Nick Vigil or Tanner Vallejo at linebacker?

No!

 

[Chopper0080]

Bringing in White is an easy way for the new staff to have someone on the team who knows the system...and is at least productive in it. It looks to be a straight 2 year deal that's not going to negatively impact them from continuing the rebuild next year. Beachum is a 2 year deal, but with a 1 year out. I'm guessing Prater is similar. Nothing is handcuffing the team from adding on.

White was productive with a great defensive line in front of him. He will not be as productive in AZ.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't understand the complaining. Would you rather see Nick Vigil or Tanner Vallejo at linebacker?

I don't care about another off-ball LB. I wanted our resources to go to retaining Zach Allen, Byron Murphy, and adding young talent to the lines. So far we are signing off-ball LBs and 30+ dudes.

 

[Shane]

White was productive with a great defensive line in front of him. He will not be as productive in AZ.

Bro clearly you’re forgetting that we just signed Kevin strong…. Holla

 

[ASUCHRIS]

This team is death by a thousand paper cuts and every one of their decisions effect the other stupidity that follows.

The slippery slope of suck?

 

[juza76]

White was productive with a great defensive line in front of him. He will not be as productive in AZ.

He has some athletic ability and likely a better football IQ than Simmons and Collins
The our former first rounds picks are not a strenght in our defense so trying to upgrade the position is not a sin

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm projecting MY OPINION. My opinion is that the Cards punting situation (and this signing) is not even top 20 in my biggest concerns. I can list them for you and you can see how stupid my opinion is if you want?

Forget it dude.

 

[Chopper0080]

He has some athletic ability and likely a better football IQ than Simmons and Collins
The our former first rounds picks are not a strenght in our defense so trying to upgrade the position is not a sin

Upgrading non important positions was a Keim hallmark. The trend continues.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

When was the last time you were right about something like this?

When was the last time we let a decent free agent walk and they went on to great things?

It wasn't Kirk, nobody wanted to sign him for that money. Most thought he wasn't worth $10m.

I guess you would say Reddick? But Reddick didn't want to stay. They offered him more money than he took at the Panthers.

You keep bringing up a Reddick like all a club can do is offer $. No, a club has to offer money and a compelling reason for a player to stay. Scheme, coaches, feeling valued, amenities, without room with stable floors, free food . . . Etc. By your own admission it’s not just a bidding war. So if you offer more money and still lose a guy you’ve REALLY blown it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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And by saying “just chose to go elsewhere” you mean “cardinals couldn’t close.” Not sure which is worse, sitting on the sidelines or trying and failing. Neither is grand unless you’re in the “make sure every signing is a value signing” which makes no sense to me unless your actually a bidwill.

 

[AZCB34]

Bro clearly you’re forgetting that we just signed Kevin strong…. Holla

Who the hell is Kevin Strong?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Forget it dude.

Saves me compiling a list, so thanks I guess.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Who the hell is Kevin Strong?

Rotational guy at best. But the Cards need bodies pretty much everywhere

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Is it though? Would any of these signings really move the needle more than a game or two? I'm in a full rebuild mode of the roster for the next 12-24 months. You can decide at that time whether Kyler is a part of that rebuild.

I don’t get this view. You have to field 22 starters and plenty of other guys that see the field. You’re allowed to sign them for more than one season. So even if this year is a wash you do get to play these guys next year, and even the next if you sign them to a three year contract. And as I recall we have few players signed to contracts. So what good does just not signing talented players do long term for the team?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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How does signing a young talented player to a multi-year contract hurt the long term?

 

[BirdGangThing]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Gannon wants players that want to be here. Allen can go freeze his ass off in Denver. Like he is a stud

No one truly wants to be a cardinal. Bad strategy.

 

[QuebecCard]

And by saying “just chose to go elsewhere” you mean “cardinals couldn’t close.” Not sure which is worse, sitting on the sidelines or trying and failing. Neither is grand unless you’re in the “make sure every signing is a value signing” which makes no sense to me unless your actually a bidwill.

I guess that raised floorboard in the southwest corner of the weight room did them in.

One should never underestimate the importance of little things, like a nail gun and a bit of carpet.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Howard at it again

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He’s right

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I don’t get this view. You have to field 22 starters and plenty of other guys that see the field. You’re allowed to sign them for more than one season.

I don't think that they want to commit themselves to the big free agent spending and years. They want shorter term contracts so they can build from the draft. It isn't like this team has an owner that can (or is willing to) shell out 100M in signing bonuses to sign these big free agents.

So even if this year is a wash you do get to play these guys next year, and even the next if you sign them to a three year contract. And as I recall we have few players signed to contracts. So what good does just not signing talented players do long term for the team?

What good did JJ Watt do for this team overall? He was a good signing in my eyes, and he was a leader among men. Yet this team and defense still had another epic collapse.

I'm not saying they should do nothing for nothing's sake. I think they want to fill the roster with C+ and B level players. Just my humble opinion.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Beachum, dortch, prater and clement. Lol.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

What good did JJ Watt do for this team overall?

Uh, he transformed the D in 2021, and led us to the best record in the first half of the season. When he went down, our season went down.

JJ in his prime couldn't have turned around this crap show of a season. (JJ was really good too!)

 

[Shane]

Beachum, dortch, prater and clement. Lol.

White and Strong… and people said that they didn’t think we were going to make a splash….