Frye Creating Mismatches In Phoenix

[Roca Dolla]

Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic writes that Suns big man Channing Frye could create offensive mismatches this season.

The team has been taking part in voluntary workouts and traditional centers have had a hard time defending Frye, according to Coro.

If defenders leave Frye open on the perimeter, he's comfortable hitting a jumper. In addition, if defenders rush out to pressure him, he has the explosiveness to blow by them.

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[Covert Rain]

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I have seen Frye do that in spurts his entire career. The problem with Frye is he does not sustain anything. One minute he is there the next he is not. That has always been the knock on the guy.

I am glad to hear that it sounds like they are playing him at C because playing him at PF would be a disaster. He is no PF and if he did play that, it would mean Amare is playing Center which is a mistake IMO.

 

[Griffin]

I have seen Frye do that in spurts his entire career. The problem with Frye is he does not sustain anything. One minute he is there the next he is not. That has always been the knock on the guy.

I don't know if Frye ever received consistent playing time anywhere he's been. He's role has been inconsistent. I think he'll be a much better fit in Phoenix that he has been with NY or Portland.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

I, for one, am mildly excited to see Frye alongside Amare. They'll get torched defensively, but they should complement each other well on the other end.

 

[Superbone]

Frye Creating Mismatches In Phoenix

I just hope he'll be able to create mismatches in other cities and against other teams as well.

 

[Bufalay]

Which traditional centers are having a hard time guarding him? Lopez?

 

[HooverDam]

Which traditional centers are having a hard time guarding him? Lopez?

and Bill Cartwright

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I hear Ostertag is practicing with the team, he's a defensive force.

 

[Shzm13]

Basketball related mismatches?

 

[Gaddabout]

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[asudevil83]

couldnt this just be because we have awful defenders?

we have one "traditional" center.....LOPEZ. if he cant guard Frye....well we just have a big problem here

 

[Mainstreet]

It's not surprising that no one is talking about Lopez. In an article from azcentral a week or so back it was noted that Frye was really working over Lopez especially with his mid-range game and moves to the basket.

IMO, the absence of any positive comments regarding Lopez by the media or coaching staff is bad news. I was hoping someday he might become an NBA backup center. I believed that was his best upside. Apparently even that is too much of a reach.

 

[arthurracoon]

Which traditional centers are having a hard time guarding him? Lopez?

 

[Chaplin]

Why don't you guys go have a lollipop or go play with a puppy?

The negativity here is disgusting. And I mean that in the most positive way.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Why don't you guys go have a lollipop or go play with a puppy?

The negativity here is disgusting. And I mean that in the most positive way.

Its pretty Honest and on point criticsm, this team has some major flaws, I dont think they are even playoff worthy!

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't know if Frye ever received consistent playing time anywhere he's been. He's role has been inconsistent. I think he'll be a much better fit in Phoenix that he has been with NY or Portland.

You have to show you can play consistently before you can expect to get consistent playing time. He has had enough chances in game situations and practices to prove it. He just never has.

 

[AfroSuns]

Its pretty Honest and on point criticsm, this team has some major flaws, I dont think they are even playoff worthy!

I think they will make the playoffs, making it out of the first round is another thing.

It is refreshing to know that Frye can still hit the perimeter jumpers. Lopez or not it is going to create problem for a lot of centers.

 

[TucsonDevil]

Let's be honest with ourselves. The Suns are going to have to do all they can to exploit mismatches on the court. If they think they have found another potential area of attack, Fantastic! If they can find enough points of attack, they might be able to win quite a few games.

I would like to hear how the defensive prowess of Jason Richardson is progressing. IN addition to finding offensive attack points, the Suns still need to try and plug a hole or two on the other end. Some can't be plugged due to personnel, however JR can certainly improve his defense.

The season will be hard to watch at times, but anything and everything they can do to find a way to win - I favor. Remember Major League when actor Chelcie Ross put everything on the ball, including snot to give himself an advantage? That is the Suns for the next couple of years.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Ok, so what does Frye bring to the table that Diaw did not, except for being a worse defender, ball handler and passer.

I am not saying this because I am longing to have Diaw back, I am just saying, if a Diaw/Amare combo didn't work, why would a Frye/Amare combo work?

The only combo that was really effective with Amare in it was Marion at PF and Amare at center.

 

[jbeecham]

Ok, so what does Frye bring to the table that Diaw did not, except for being a worse defender, ball handler and passer.

I am not saying this because I am longing to have Diaw back, I am just saying, if a Diaw/Amare combo didn't work, why would a Frye/Amare combo work?

The only combo that was really effective with Amare in it was Marion at PF and Amare at center.

Frye is 7 million cheaper per year, might be a better jump shooter, won't pass the ball away when he has a wide open layup & will actually care if the Suns win or lose

 

[TucsonDevil]

Frye is 7 million cheaper per year, might be a better jump shooter, won't pass the ball away when he has a wide open layup & will actually care if the Suns win or lose

That is a pretty good depiction and condemnation on exactly what Diaw was the last two years with the Suns. Chandler will be more aggressive, but lacks the ball skills that Diaw possesses.

 

[Griffin]

You have to show you can play consistently before you can expect to get consistent playing time. He has had enough chances in game situations and practices to prove it. He just never has.

I certainly have not seen Frye play enough throughout his career to be able to say whether that was or was not the reason for his lack of playing time. But looking at his career stats, in his rookie season he averaged 12.3 points, 5.8 rebounds per game in just over 24 minutes. That's pretty good for a rookie. Then in his second year Isiah Thomas became the new NY coach and Frye's role changed, though still averaging 9.5 points, 5.5 rebounds in 26 minutes.

In Portland however he was playing on a deep roster among players Portland drafted and prioritized in development over Frye who didn't figure into the Blazers' long-term plans. They only acquired him to unload Randolph. Consequently, his minutes dropped to 17 in his first season with Portland and down to under 12 in his last. So could it not be the case that Fry didn't get a fair shot with the Blazers or that they didn't utilize him in a way that maximizes his strengths? I guess we'll soon find out.

 

[Superbone]

Ok, so what does Frye bring to the table that Diaw did not, except for being a worse defender, ball handler and passer.

I am not saying this because I am longing to have Diaw back, I am just saying, if a Diaw/Amare combo didn't work, why would a Frye/Amare combo work?

The only combo that was really effective with Amare in it was Marion at PF and Amare at center.

Frye won't dominate the ball like Diaw did. Frye doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective.

 

[Covert Rain]

I certainly have not seen Frye play enough throughout his career to be able to say whether that was or was not the reason for his lack of playing time. But looking at his career stats, in his rookie season he averaged 12.3 points, 5.8 rebounds per game in just over 24 minutes. That's pretty good for a rookie. Then in his second year Isiah Thomas became the new NY coach and Frye's role changed, though still averaging 9.5 points, 5.5 rebounds in 26 minutes.

In Portland however he was playing on a deep roster among players Portland drafted and prioritized in development over Frye who didn't figure into the Blazers' long-term plans. They only acquired him to unload Randolph. Consequently, his minutes dropped to 17 in his first season with Portland and down to under 12 in his last. So could it not be the case that Fry didn't get a fair shot with the Blazers or that they didn't utilize him in a way that maximizes his strengths? I guess we'll soon find out.

I have seen Frye in plenty of games (including against Phoenix). Exactly what I stated above is what I would see every single time. Hit the occasional jumper, then disappear. He also didn't impress against strong front court players. Coaches have had this guy day in and day out practicing. If he was not getting consistent playing time on the court...it was for a reason. He wasn't showing something to the coaches and if what I remember seeing about him was also the case during games..is it really that big of a surprise?

 

[krazyasiankid]

His 1.9m bi-annual contract says it all. The front office know best about how much a player is worth...
Draft picks?? Thats a whole different story.