Further Incompetence and Ineptitude

[Chris_Sanders]

I have a long history of being one of the biggest kool aiders on this board.

Here is what I see:

An organization returning to it's roots of money over product.

An organization that is unable to retain it's veterans.

An organization that continues to fail in the "money" rounds 2-4.

An organization that has little ability to develop young players

An organization that is inflexible

An organization that lacks acountability

An organization that lacks long term planning

An organization that does not know how to assess it's weaknesses


Sadly there are multiple examples for each one of the things above. Any one of those can be franchise crippling. I have no desire to return to the days where wearing a Cardinals jersey was a reason for public redicule.

 

[Fiasco]

Internet yahoos always know more than anybody else....that's why they are yahoos. Funny how none of them seem to make a living at what they claim to be experts at, isn't it ?

Even more funny....

Cardinals managers who do make a living being "experts" when clearly they are not.

 

[WildBB]

I have a long history of being one of the biggest kool aiders on this board.

Here is what I see:

An organization returning to it's roots of money over product.

An organization that is unable to retain it's veterans.

An organization that continues to fail in the "money" rounds 2-4.

An organization that has little ability to develop young players

An organization that is inflexible

An organization that lacks acountability

An organization that lacks long term planning

An organization that does not know how to assess it's weaknesses


Sadly there are multiple examples for each one of the things above. Any one of those can be franchise crippling. I have no desire to return to the days where wearing a Cardinals jersey was a reason for public redicule.

'That's alot of judgements. You can step off the throne now.

 

[WildBB]

Thats my point, we drafted a guy who is listed as a TE but plays like a WR, from the descriptions I have read Breaston and Komar are better downfield blockers. People act like we got our answer at TE but we didn't, we got a project.

We'll see.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

'That's alot of judgements. You can step off the throne now.

Sorry, part of my job right now is quality control and corporate assessment. When you do it for a job, you start seeing it all over. I don't intend to sound like I am on a throne.

Frankly I am just disappointed that I can point to numerous examples of each point. That's not good for us as fans.

 

[WildBB]

Sorry, part of my job right now is quality control and corporate assessment. When you do it for a job, you start seeing it all over. I don't intend to sound like I am on a throne.

Frankly I am just disappointed that I can point to numerous examples of each point. That's not good for us as fans.

I understand, we want results. We were just in a SB recently. We want success again. Badly. I believe they do to. We just disagree on how they're doing it right now, but it doesn't mean they won't have results. We have to have a bit more patience still, not rush to judgement.

 

[Fiasco]

Sorry chris, you couldn't be more wrong.

The plan is crystal clear.

With the first selection in the 2012 draft, the Arizona cardinals select Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford.

I have a long history of being one of the biggest kool aiders on this board.

Here is what I see:

An organization returning to it's roots of money over product.

An organization that is unable to retain it's veterans.

An organization that continues to fail in the "money" rounds 2-4.

An organization that has little ability to develop young players

An organization that is inflexible

An organization that lacks acountability

An organization that lacks long term planning

An organization that does not know how to assess it's weaknesses


Sadly there are multiple examples for each one of the things above. Any one of those can be franchise crippling. I have no desire to return to the days where wearing a Cardinals jersey was a reason for public redicule.

 

[PJ1]

Good post Mitch and I am in no way a front office basher. I really don't believe they get it as much as I want them to.

As for Housler PFW Downside: Does not play to timed speed. Lacks bulk strength and toughness desired to block in line. Drops easy passes. Not strong after catch. Projected 5th 6th round.... This does not make them right and somebody else wrong but anybody saying this wasn't a surprise pick this early is kidding themselves.

 

[desertdawg]

Beanie shmeanie, he knows how Whiz rolls, and he decides to run his trap about not playing while he was fresh out of the surgery the Cards kept super quiet. If Timmy wasn't coughing it up so much last year, we would have seen even less of Wells.

Whiz isn't redrafting backs like some say, Timmy could be gone with the contract and all, and Beanie and his new Agent aren't exactly on Whiz's buddy list.

Whiz isn't getting caught with his pants down, he took the best guy in the draft (Ingram was long gone) and he kept on rolling.

It's Beanie's bad, not Whiz's. I can't wait to see if Whiz actually runs a balanced offense, it looks to me like that's what's coming...but then again, we aren't behind in the score yet.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Projected 3rd rounder by whom?

Until he learns how to block, if he ever does, he is a situational TE...which hardly projects to the #69 pick in any draft unless you are a team loaded with talent and can afford the luxury of picking a situational player.

This just in...................................

We need STARTERS at LB...

And we take a situational TE instead.

And you are fine with that?

Wow.

Well, Mayoch has him in his top 100, and saw it as a good pick.

But, hey! what could he know that you don't.

 

[SECTION 11]

I totally dig this draft so far.

 

[Cardiac]

I totally dig this draft so far.

About time you chimed in. Why do you totally dig this draft?

 

[SECTION 11]

About time you chimed in. Why do you totally dig this draft?

Peterson makes four different positions better; three corners and punt return.

Ryan Williams is a stud, and paves the way for Hightower to be jettisoned to the Patriots or whoever as trade bait.

I like that we actually have a tight end with talent on the team. The other TE's on the roster are gritty and yadda yadda yadda but really, there's no talent there.

Sam Acho is alright, but he's going to be versatile.

Mainly it comes down to this for me;

1) We've drafted for need repeatedly over the years and that's exactly why we end up with stiffs like Arrington, Fisher, Small Play Ray, et al. I love the fact that they're clearly drafting the best football players. Honestly, does anyone really believe that drafting for need in the later rounds actually accomplishes anything at all? Enough already.

2) I like what I saw in Skelton and would not have drafted any of the QB's in this draft where they were likely to go. I think we're going to get Bulger and that's alright for now and to be honest I'm curious to see if he even beats out Skelton. Totally serious, I don't think there's any guarantee that Bulger's our starter even if we land him.

3) Some of our most talented players are also some of our most underachieving. I'm talking to you, Beanie and DRC. I think the philosophy of drafting the best football players available (like Williams) this year just happened to bring in better talent under two of the players at two of the most important spots on the team.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Peterson makes four different positions better; three corners and punt return.

Ryan Williams is a stud, and paves the way for Hightower to be jettisoned to the Patriots or whoever as trade bait.

I like that we actually have a tight end with talent on the team. The other TE's on the roster are gritty and yadda yadda yadda but really, there's no talent there.

Sam Acho is alright, but he's going to be versatile.

Mainly it comes down to this for me;

1) We've drafted for need repeatedly over the years and that's exactly why we end up with stiffs like Arrington, Fisher, Small Play Ray, et al. I love the fact that they're clearly drafting the best football players. Honestly, does anyone really believe that drafting for need in the later rounds actually accomplishes anything at all? Enough already.

2) I like what I saw in Skelton and would not have drafted any of the QB's in this draft where they were likely to go. I think we're going to get Bulger and that's alright for now and to be honest I'm curious to see if he even beats out Skelton. Totally serious, I don't think there's any guarantee that Bulger's our starter even if we land him.

3) Some of our most talented players are also some of our most underachieving. I'm talking to you, Beanie and DRC. I think the philosophy of drafting the best football players available (like Williams) this year just happened to bring in better talent under two of the players at two of the most important spots on the team.

An attitude like this seems to help my sanity

 

[Dougmo]

Keep talking Section 11 and maybe I'll come down off the ledge.
Best positive post I've heard.

 

[Mitch]

Keep talking Section 11 and maybe I'll come down off the ledge.
Best positive post I've heard.

Great post, 11.

I hope you are correct.

I was hoping more for:

1. Peterson, CB
2. Reed, OLB
3. Houston, OLB
4. Klug, 34DE

All were available.

 

[Cardiac]

Peterson makes four different positions better; three corners and punt return.

Ryan Williams is a stud, and paves the way for Hightower to be jettisoned to the Patriots or whoever as trade bait.

I like that we actually have a tight end with talent on the team. The other TE's on the roster are gritty and yadda yadda yadda but really, there's no talent there.

Sam Acho is alright, but he's going to be versatile.

Mainly it comes down to this for me;

1) We've drafted for need repeatedly over the years and that's exactly why we end up with stiffs like Arrington, Fisher, Small Play Ray, et al. I love the fact that they're clearly drafting the best football players. Honestly, does anyone really believe that drafting for need in the later rounds actually accomplishes anything at all? Enough already.

2) I like what I saw in Skelton and would not have drafted any of the QB's in this draft where they were likely to go. I think we're going to get Bulger and that's alright for now and to be honest I'm curious to see if he even beats out Skelton. Totally serious, I don't think there's any guarantee that Bulger's our starter even if we land him.

3) Some of our most talented players are also some of our most underachieving. I'm talking to you, Beanie and DRC. I think the philosophy of drafting the best football players available (like Williams) this year just happened to bring in better talent under two of the players at two of the most important spots on the team.

Now this is why I wanted you to explain in more detail. I also think you have a great eye for RB's so that's encouraging news about Ryan Williams.

I agree that this draft was all about BPA and now we know who we will have to chase hard in FA.

Excellent post.

 

[Buckybird]

I have a long history of being one of the biggest kool aiders on this board.

Here is what I see:

An organization returning to it's roots of money over product.

An organization that is unable to retain it's veterans.

An organization that continues to fail in the "money" rounds 2-4.

An organization that has little ability to develop young players

An organization that is inflexible

An organization that lacks acountability

An organization that lacks long term planning

An organization that does not know how to assess it's weaknesses


Sadly there are multiple examples for each one of the things above. Any one of those can be franchise crippling. I have no desire to return to the days where wearing a Cardinals jersey was a reason for public redicule.

'That's alot of judgements. You can step off the throne now.

And yet Chris speaks the truth. People don't want to hear or believe the truth
about the team they luv & root for but his post is spot on!!!